• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:07
CEST 05:07
KST 12:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!14Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)83Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7225 users

[Grilled] Doublelift Interview | Post IPL5

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 00:36:49
December 07 2012 20:10 GMT
#1
[image loading]

Peter "Doublelift" Peng of CLG Prime is the star of the 17th episode of my 'Grilled' video interview series. He talks about some past and present team-mates (HotshotGG, Voyboy, Saintvicious) and the strengths and weaknesses of the Asian teams.

Some of the topics discussed:
-If his mechanics are the best and the role of mechanics in LoL.
-Why he thinks Europe has the best mids.
-How much skill Support takes to play in comparison to AD Carry.
-What makes Chauster special that people don't see inside the server.
-Comparing HotshotGG's jungling to Saintvicious'.
-Why he thinks CLG turned Voyboy from the best top laner into a second rate one.
-HotshotGG's unique strengths at top lane.

The entire 43m55s interview can be watched at Team Acer.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 08 2012 00:05 GMT
#2
Watching this interview right now, ~12 min in. So far very very solid. One of the few non-troll Doublelift interview. Really awesome stuff.
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#3
<3 Doublelift. Thanks for putting this up!
Never Knows Best.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9235 Posts
December 08 2012 00:33 GMT
#4
I generally avoid watching/reading LoL interviews (other than Pluto's which are at least somewhat funny) because they all have the same shallow and boring questions, but this is really good.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 08 2012 00:39 GMT
#5
I'm halfway through and so far it's been a really great interview. Really appreciate it.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 08 2012 00:44 GMT
#6
I can't seem to get the video to work :< On chrome here.
panzer
Profile Joined May 2009
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 00:57:27
December 08 2012 00:57 GMT
#7
good interview but the audio quality needs a bit of work. thanks for the content
빈 수레가 요란하다
Drogenfahndung
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:05:03
December 08 2012 01:01 GMT
#8
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 08 2012 01:07 GMT
#9
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?
Remember Violet.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 08 2012 01:08 GMT
#10
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.

Sort of hard to carry a game when you have Hsgg in jungle.
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 08 2012 01:12 GMT
#11
On December 08 2012 10:08 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.

Sort of hard to carry a game when you have Hsgg in jungle.


I like how he was so nice about HotShots junglin hehe.
Never Knows Best.
Drogenfahndung
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:16:30
December 08 2012 01:14 GMT
#12
On December 08 2012 10:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?


Did u not hear the part where he basiclly calls every high elo na player bad and compares them to bronze league Starcraft 2 players and also says the na teams are to bad to practice against how im i trolling again?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 08 2012 01:18 GMT
#13
On December 08 2012 10:14 Drogenfahndung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?


Did u not hear the part where he basiclly calls every high elo na player bad and compares them to bronze league Starcraft 2 players and also says the na are to bad to practice against how im i trolling again?

You obviously haven't been on TL long, everyone here thinks NA scene is complete trash for exception of Doublelift.

Name an NA player that can actually compete with their Korean/Asian/EU counterpart.
What? You think Dyrus can play against Maknoon or Caomei evenly?
Reginald against Froggen? xpekee? alex ich? Toyz?
Any NA support in comparison to Madlife?

NA scene is trash, deal with it.
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 08 2012 01:22 GMT
#14
On December 08 2012 10:14 Drogenfahndung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?


Did u not hear the part where he basiclly calls every high elo na player bad and compares them to bronze league Starcraft 2 players and also says the na teams are to bad to practice against how im i trolling again?


He wasn't that harsh on the NA players, he even said there is a lot of talent there, just that there is a lot they need to work out. And the bronze league sc2 comparison was when he was talking about him playing soloQ.
Never Knows Best.
Drogenfahndung
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:27:38
December 08 2012 01:24 GMT
#15
On December 08 2012 10:18 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:14 Drogenfahndung wrote:
On December 08 2012 10:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?


Did u not hear the part where he basiclly calls every high elo na player bad and compares them to bronze league Starcraft 2 players and also says the na are to bad to practice against how im i trolling again?

You obviously haven't been on TL long, everyone here thinks NA scene is complete trash for exception of Doublelift.

Name an NA player that can actually compete with their Korean/Asian/EU counterpart.
What? You think Dyrus can play against Maknoon or Caomei evenly?
Reginald against Froggen? xpekee? alex ich? Toyz?
Any NA support in comparison to Madlife?

NA scene is trash, deal with it.


I dont know where u got the idea that i think the Na scene is good compared to the rest of the world from in the first place.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:34:10
December 08 2012 01:29 GMT
#16
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.

You're saying his assessment is incorrect. Opposite of "rest of na to be trash" is "na isn't trash". But, it's pretty true that NA scene is trash in comparison.

Secondly, you use a non-tangent point of saying that they can't beat TSM, as if that's somehow proof his assessment of NA scene is incorrect. Also if you looked at IPL5, it's a pretty obvious that CLG put a far stronger showing than TSM did.
So, both your points are incorrect.

And there isn't a single botlane in NA or EU that even holds a candle to Chau+DL botlane, even with loco+DL lane, they don't really lose lane to NA players.
And there are only a few botlanes internationally that are as strong (maybe stronger) as DL+loco lane, and that's locodoco+dl lane.

liftlift > tsm
Drogenfahndung
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:45:46
December 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#17
they lost alot lanes vs europeen teams like how they lost vs moscov five back in IEM Hannover for example
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 01:43:51
December 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#18
On December 08 2012 10:14 Drogenfahndung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 10:07 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 08 2012 10:01 Drogenfahndung wrote:
I like how he condsiders himself and Chauster top be among the best botlanes in the world and the rest of na to be trash a bit arrgant for someone who cant even beat TSM.


Don't you love it when people create accounts just to troll?


Did u not hear the part where he basiclly calls every high elo na player bad and compares them to bronze league Starcraft 2 players and also says the na teams are to bad to practice against how im i trolling again?


He compared solo queue to the bronze league. You created this account just to bash Doublelift and you didn't even understand his point. He said NA teams are bad to play against because NA lacks a depth of good teams, which is 100% empirically true.

On December 08 2012 10:42 Drogenfahndung wrote:
Thats why they lost bot vs Fnatic most of the games in IPL 5 right?


I think you can blame jiji and loco for that one more than Doublelift. It's very obvious how good Doublelift is and it's a joke to think he's wrong for considering himself one of the best carries.
Remember Violet.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#19
Doublelift is right in his assessment of him and Chauste (ok maybe a little too worshipful there but Chauster is very good), but he is either way too optimistic about the rest of his team or unwilling to say what he really thinks. Because if he thinks that the NA scene is such trash, the rest of his team might be even worse in some regards.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 08 2012 01:49 GMT
#20
I think it's very obvious that he bites his tongue when he talks about hotshot and jiji, because he almost never mentions them. It's kind of ironic considering those two are the biggest reason CLG became a sort of brandname and now they're dragging the team down -- I suppose that's why they'll never actually exclude themselves from the team despite poor performance.
Remember Violet.
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#91
PiGStarcraft495
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft495
RuFF_SC2 173
FoxeR 62
Nina 2
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3669
Purpose 14
Terrorterran 12
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Trikslyr56
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1219
minikerr47
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox356
Other Games
summit1g6659
tarik_tv4897
JimRising 685
WinterStarcraft521
ViBE191
JuggernautJason103
ROOTCatZ5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1378
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 92
• EnkiAlexander 69
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo781
• Stunt213
Other Games
• Scarra1931
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6h 54m
Kung Fu Cup
7h 54m
OSC
20h 54m
CrankTV Team League
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.