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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
November 30 2012 03:53 GMT
#5
^ Lol

im /in
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 00:11:27
December 01 2012 00:10 GMT
#19
Lonlyyyyyy, I am so lonlyyyy. So very Lonlyyyy ALL ON MY OWWWOOOWWWNNNNN.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 05 2012 22:32 GMT
#42
Glad there are people I have played with before. Wouldnt be as fun playing with alot of people I never played with before :3
HAI
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 06 2012 21:55 GMT
#74
On December 06 2012 22:39 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 18:47 Bluelightz wrote:
Spur of recruitment because of me <3?


Of course.

5 players returning from my first game in here, a year to the day.

Lets see what we've learned.

I haven't played in forever. So you will probably be better in that regard. Regardless I still wanna lynch you :3.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:23 GMT
#132
Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz.

Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town.

There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware.
So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you.

As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense.

Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:29 GMT
#136
On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days?

VE gimme your thoughts on thrash
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:29 GMT
#137
thrawn* EBWODP
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:32 GMT
#138
On December 10 2012 10:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
All the people in the past, present, and future who ask why I lied about being miller..... can go and read this post. If they don't like it then they can just continue reading it because that's all I've got to say about it.

You tried to brush off bears vote. And then when the whole thread is asking you to explain you dont give an answer. Ok heres my thought of process. IF you dont wanna get lynched today your gonna have to try harder then that. If your a town player then your gonna have to put some effort in your defense because as it is I could totally see my self lynching you.

I dont wanna start an early easy bandwagon. But your making a pretty good case for your self why your scum.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:37 GMT
#143
On December 10 2012 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible


I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here.

On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea


I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME).


What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly.



Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion?

If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing.


That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers.

Dude... Its not whether we believe you. Your lying simple. Not a single persons believes your claim its about why are you lying. For no damn reason. And what purpose would town have to do that. It only makes sense from a mafia perspective
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 01:57 GMT
#155
On December 10 2012 10:50 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible


I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here.

On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea


I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME).


What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly.



Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion?

If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing.



Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:42 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:33 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:28 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:19 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible


I think you better try to explain what you were hoping to accomplish here.

On November 01 2012 08:25 thrawn2112 wrote:
If a miller claims D1 I don't even know what my thought process would be for deciding if I believe them or not, so I'm hesitatingly saying that I disagree with the idea


I find this post sits in a stark contrast to your current play, and this is from one of your recent town games (ACME).


What's the stark contrast? I don't see how these things are even related. Are you trying to suggest I'm scum? because you went about it pretty subtly.



Town you from ACME says that you disagree with the idea of millers claiming, and that you don't even know what your thought process would be for deciding if its real or not. Why are you trying to put everyone else in a similar position of confusion?

If I wanted to call you scum, I would have. What I want to know is why you are doing what you are doing.


That's not even the issue. How am I putting anyone in a compromising decision about whether or not to believe the claim when millers aren't even self aware? I don't understand what accusation you're trying to make, it makes no sense in the context of what the OP has to say about millers.


Why are you so defensive? As previously stated, I am not accusing you, I am trying to figure out what your motive is for whatever stunt you're pulling. Your response to that is 'go read the post that says nothing'. Obviously you wanted to be the talking point today, so here we are, get talking.


So, let me get this straight.

You aren't accusing him of being scum, yet you are aggressively questioning him? You say his posting is distinctly different from his town posting, yet you don't think he's scummy because of it?

Yea adam just call him scummy bro ;P
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 02:03 GMT
#157
On December 10 2012 10:56 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:44 debears wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:07 Djodref wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:01 debears wrote:
On December 10 2012 09:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Whatever happened to people going "LOL" after a video like in the olden days?


Ikr

Anyways Djo the video was a response to the question, but a fun way of doing it

Have you not seen the Matrix? Did you not watch the video?


Yes, I guess you were saying that your vote was not real with the video. What was your motivation with your first vote on thrawn ?
What is your real take on thrawn fakeclaim ?


To get the voting rally started of course. Break the ice son

And it's strange. It would make no sense from a town perspective. His PM can't tell him he's a miller, because they aren't self aware.

So from

town - he was joking and he knew millers weren't self aware. Just did it for shits and giggles

scum - he claimed miller without checking first. I just don't see a scum being that reckless, but i'm sure if he's town he'll put in a productive day 1.

Or, he could've knew someone would interpret him as a joking townie if he's scum. and the wifomwifomwfiom


I'm the first to vote in the voting thread
So you see thrawn as a joking town or a reckless scum (less likely) or scum using WIFOM. Okay...
I personally can see a motivation for a town player to fakeclaim like this (serious motivation) that would make sense but I'm waiting for him to explain it first so I can check it matches my expectation or not.

At the exception of thrawn, do you have any comment to make on other players in this early game ?

Hey Djo can you do us all a favor and type in your vote here when you decide to vote for someone one in the voting thread. It would help out alot and i rather not have to check it till the end of the day.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 02:09 GMT
#160
On December 10 2012 11:05 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 10:35 Djodref wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
All the people in the past, present, and future who ask why I lied about being miller..... can go and read this post. If they don't like it then they can just continue reading it because that's all I've got to say about it.


I don't like it. I don't understand why you are being so stubborn...
Let's see if it's really all you have to say about it.

##Vote thrawn


@ jay

y u no read the thread ?

I SOWWY I SOWWY. Me bad.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 03:27 GMT
#191
I swear to god if thrawn doesnt explain him self. Hes the most anti town player i have seen in a while. Frustrating really. I am only hesitant to vote him because i dont like early bandwagons in general.

It hurts the conversation and shit to read if we all are voting the same person. Regardless of how unlogical his claims maybe (for town). Thrawn can you please drop your sharade and just attempt to explain your reasoning. Or as i said before your gonna get lynched
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 05:16 GMT
#214
Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them.

Ok Clarity ill lay out my thinking for you.

First off I have had a scum tell on Thrawn for quite a while now. However I was hoping giving him the benefit of the doubt would prompt him to come out and explain him self. Sadly he hasn't done so.

I have also had some bad experiances with me as town going off on easy band wagons and ending up killing a townie day one.
This has happened multiple times for me. It may not be so with vets. As we have had some good conversation going on. But i have had games, like i stated before that people all decide to vote someone. And it kills the discussion of the town.

Also I dont feel like its necessary to have to vote someone each time my scum reads change. I believe that me saying who i am suspicious of and explaining my reads and voting closer to deadline is fine. i dont know why people make a big deal about that.

So in conclusion, Yes i think that thrawn is likely scum.
No I have not switched my stance on him,
But i have been persistently saying i want him to explain his actions
And No i don't feel i need to vote now if my reads are out there.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 05:34 GMT
#216
On December 10 2012 14:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
So someone makes a big case on you and you react by saying "glad someone is reading my posts"?

It's not that you don't put your vote where your mouth is, it's the REASON you don't vote. You shouldn't care what's easy and what's not, all you need to care about is who is scum, and try to get your strongest scumread lynched.

I would love it if you linked some games in where you claimed this has happened to you. I would also love it if you walked us through a scum thrawn's reasoning for doing what he did.

Lol is my reaction not what you expected

Wait a second, the reason i didn't vote is because i don't feel i have too. A vote doesn't mean anything till the end of the cycle. I have been going after thrawn and trying to get him to respond to me. And get some kind of explanation from him. However he has yet to respond to me. THRAWN STOP GAWD DAMN IGNORING ME.

And yes i do care if the lynch seems to easy. Because then from my experience, its likely a bus or a townie were killing.

I'll try to find the games if i can. Its been almost a year tho.

And i already gave you a scum reasoning to do what he did.


On December 10 2012 10:23 jaybrundage wrote:
Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz.

Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town.

There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware.
So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you.

As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense.

Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 06:26 GMT
#225
Hammer mini mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=303505
Mr.Wiggles mini mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=296791&currentpage=11
TL Mafia XLVII On the wrong bandwagon voting for a major who killed someone town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285690&currentpage=92#1823

Ok after a bit of digging these are the some games that on day one we mislynched in part because of my participation in a easy bandwagon.

On December 10 2012 14:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
So you're saying he's scum, but didn't know millers weren't self aware?
Do you find that a likely story? Keep in mind he claimed super early, if we were in a setup where millers were self-aware he would be at risk of being counter-claimed and being under heavy suspicion and lynched at some point for sure. (it is common for millers to claim early, the later the claim the more likely it is scum because scum likes to wait to make sure there will be no counter-claim).

No, your reaction makes no sense to me. Clearly I've read your posts but how can you be happy about it, seeing as (working from the scenario in which you are town) I am clearly misrepresenting you. How can you be happy about that?

From your experience an easy lynch is "a bus or a mislynch", which is to say we're either lynching scum or town (dur). So how does that change anything?


I dont find a reason to get over defensive Ill paste my thoughts and explain my reasoning. And if i do that well and be transparent it should show that im not scum.

I gave my reasoning as a possible reason for a scum to do so. I didnt say it was great scum play.

And you can see my links about "easy" 1st day lynches above.

On December 10 2012 14:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 14:34 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 10 2012 14:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
So someone makes a big case on you and you react by saying "glad someone is reading my posts"?

It's not that you don't put your vote where your mouth is, it's the REASON you don't vote. You shouldn't care what's easy and what's not, all you need to care about is who is scum, and try to get your strongest scumread lynched.

I would love it if you linked some games in where you claimed this has happened to you. I would also love it if you walked us through a scum thrawn's reasoning for doing what he did.

Lol is my reaction not what you expected

Wait a second, the reason i didn't vote is because i don't feel i have too. A vote doesn't mean anything till the end of the cycle. I have been going after thrawn and trying to get him to respond to me. And get some kind of explanation from him. However he has yet to respond to me. THRAWN STOP GAWD DAMN IGNORING ME.

And yes i do care if the lynch seems to easy. Because then from my experience, its likely a bus or a townie were killing.

I'll try to find the games if i can. Its been almost a year tho.

And i already gave you a scum reasoning to do what he did.


On December 10 2012 10:23 jaybrundage wrote:
Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz.

Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town.

There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware.
So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you.

As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense.

Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will.


alright well I'm tired of the miller claim discussion so here's how it went down from my perspective.

At first it was mainly a joke, but it was also intended to jump start discussion. + Show Spoiler +
wow big surprise there right?
Then people started taking it more seriously than I thought they would so I decided to be dickish about it in order to ignite further discussion. I actually don't mind being a potential mislynch, I think I'm better at discerning scum when they are trying to lynch me. I don't mind a bit of pressure during early D1 if it allows me to make better reads. Also.... anything is better than talking about lurker policy ffs


Eh a joke that could of easily misfired. I found this bolded part interesting. Maybe its just a play style. But I don't think i would try anything so risky to have the potential for me to get lynched. But the part about using the pressure to give you better reads makes sense. And lol about the lurker policy you forgot to mention discussion about the lynch all liars policy *COUGH COUGH*

I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit.

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 06:27 GMT
#226
Im gonna prolly be hitting the sack soon. Anywhere from 5 mins to 2 more hours Have a good night :D So i may or may not psot again.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 16:32 GMT
#264
On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hey marv, you've explain why we shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons we should vote a someone?

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'm ok on how he explained his 'slips'. My only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:

"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."

I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't want to ruffle feathers, but he's not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that.


His response reminds me of my own scum game. I showed no emotion that game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone's feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt.

@ Jay

I read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either.

The thing is, you say you don't want to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he's the only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It's an easy way out.

It seems like common sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i avoid em?

Im not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : /
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#311
On December 11 2012 01:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 01:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hey marv, you've explain why we shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons we should vote a someone?

On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'm ok on how he explained his 'slips'. My only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:

"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."

I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't want to ruffle feathers, but he's not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that.


His response reminds me of my own scum game. I showed no emotion that game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone's feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt.

@ Jay

I read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either.

The thing is, you say you don't want to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he's the only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It's an easy way out.

It seems like common sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i avoid em?

Im not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : /


I call people dumb or idiots?

So other than Thrawn, who is an easy bandwagon to you so should be avoided, who stands out as scummy?

I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers.

And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me.

Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases

On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum.

##Vote Vivax
(Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.)
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 10 2012 21:57 GMT
#350
On December 11 2012 05:38 Vivax wrote:
So I've been scratching my balls while reading the thread for the last 20 minutes, and when I saw jaybrundages posts, they started to hurt.

##Vote jaybrundage

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On December 11 2012 04:23 Tunkeg wrote:
Thrawn's "claim" is a joke claim. He did it in the very beginning, and quickly and without concern went back on it. I didn't like his response when called out on it. But when he in the end explained why he did as he did, it was an ok (no more, no less) explanation.


So you are okay with this post?

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On December 10 2012 09:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
any answer I could possibly give would just betray the actual purpose behind that post, making whatever I hoped to accomplish with that post no longer possible


To me it looks like you didn't study the matter enough. This explanation sucks hard. He's basically leaving the defense of himself to everybody else. He never said explicitly that he joked, he only said explicitly that he had intentions, fuck knows which.

That being said, I suggest you go back and read the stuff before you make the same mistake I made with clarity.


Dude read the thread. Thrawn said what his motive was in this post when he finally responded to me. Its not difficult use a filter.

Stop trying to play with half the deck. If you wanna try to scum hunt great but at least read the thread first.

On December 10 2012 14:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On December 10 2012 14:34 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 10 2012 14:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
So someone makes a big case on you and you react by saying "glad someone is reading my posts"?

It's not that you don't put your vote where your mouth is, it's the REASON you don't vote. You shouldn't care what's easy and what's not, all you need to care about is who is scum, and try to get your strongest scumread lynched.

I would love it if you linked some games in where you claimed this has happened to you. I would also love it if you walked us through a scum thrawn's reasoning for doing what he did.

Lol is my reaction not what you expected

Wait a second, the reason i didn't vote is because i don't feel i have too. A vote doesn't mean anything till the end of the cycle. I have been going after thrawn and trying to get him to respond to me. And get some kind of explanation from him. However he has yet to respond to me. THRAWN STOP GAWD DAMN IGNORING ME.

And yes i do care if the lynch seems to easy. Because then from my experience, its likely a bus or a townie were killing.

I'll try to find the games if i can. Its been almost a year tho.

And i already gave you a scum reasoning to do what he did.


On December 10 2012 10:23 jaybrundage wrote:
Hey guys just finished work ten hour shift zzzz.

Reading up so far. It appears. That thrawn either made a pretty big scum slip. Or maybe he just made a big mistake as town.

There wasn't any point to claiming miller. As if anyone read the OP (as they should it) they would know millers arent self aware.
So first your lying. I only seeing this make sense as scum. If you didnt know that miller was self aware. Then your thought process is that you self claim miller. A you can waste a DT check. Or make DT's ineffective against you.

As town i see no reason to lie about your role. Please give your reasoning. Because as far it doesn't make any sense.

Also I thought the point about debears. Posting a video to not enage in conversation was interesting. Not a scum tell or anything. But a video wont help us find scum some good solid conversation will.


alright well I'm tired of the miller claim discussion so here's how it went down from my perspective.

At first it was mainly a joke, but it was also intended to jump start discussion. + Show Spoiler +
wow big surprise there right?
Then people started taking it more seriously than I thought they would so I decided to be dickish about it in order to ignite further discussion. I actually don't mind being a potential mislynch, I think I'm better at discerning scum when they are trying to lynch me. I don't mind a bit of pressure during early D1 if it allows me to make better reads. Also.... anything is better than talking about lurker policy ffs



And Clarity regarding why I have shifted my stance on Thrawn I said it right here.
I really couldn't wrap my head around a town. False claiming for no damn reason. I mean I know its day one and all. But I just thought it was stupid and why do it. If we had followed lynch all liars then he would of been dead. After i read other peoples thoughts about how they were much more inclined to believe it was a joke. It made me reevaluate my position and after (Finally) thrawn explained himself I think his explanation which I had trouble believing before was plausible.

On December 11 2012 04:43 jaybrundage wrote:
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On December 11 2012 01:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 11 2012 01:32 jaybrundage wrote:
On December 10 2012 23:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hey marv, you've explain why we shouldn't vote a bunch of people (thrawn, jay, palmar) but do you have any reasons we should vote a someone?

On December 10 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
On jay, I'm ok on how he explained his 'slips'. My only worry with jay is that he comes across as overly... compliant?:

"Glad someone is reading my posts. I felt like i wasnt get any feedback from them."
"I do appreciate you giving your reasoning behind your claim. It helps me understand you a bit."

I don't particularly think much of it atm, was just weird when I was reading them. I would say it was indicative of the fact he didn't want to ruffle feathers, but he's not been afraid to put himself out there, so it isn't that.


His response reminds me of my own scum game. I showed no emotion that game, I just tried to remain logical and not to ruffle anyone's feathers, thinking that if I kept that up eventually people would stay away from me because I answered every question and reasoned away any doubt.

@ Jay

I read some of the stuff in your linked games, and yes you lyched town D1 but I never saw you say anything remotely close to "well I guess I should be more careful of early bandwagons". Not during any of the games and not in the pre-games or post-games either.

The thing is, you say you don't want to jump on an "easy bandwagon" this game, but you do. All you don't do is you haven't voted for thrawn, but he's the only person you've put pressure on. So why mention it? It's an easy way out.

It seems like common sense. If I get on easy bandwagons as town. Shouldn't i avoid em?

Im not you I don't find it necessary or needed to call people dumb or idiots like some players here do. It is it that unexpected to show some respect to people : /


I call people dumb or idiots?

So other than Thrawn, who is an easy bandwagon to you so should be avoided, who stands out as scummy?

I didnt mean you specifically but some people in TL mafia do. I actually am starting to lean more neutral on Thrawn. In my early mind set I just couldnt see someone misclaiming as a joke, or risk getting them selves lynched. Im a little worried about our lurkers.

And i would prefer to see more posts out of ZBoston. Specifically ZBoston what do you think about Claritys case on me and some people soft defending me.

Also MunkE has had like 3 posts since his /in and every single one of them is mostly about WBG statistic. Do we really have to nitpick over something like that. WBG was mostly trying to bait Palmar out. Lets hear your thoughts on some cases

On Vivax its odd. He seems really interested in going after Thrawns claim and saying that Ve defended it as a joke. When its not a joke. Even when thrawn said his self it was just a joke. That he stubbornly. Refused to explain to generate discussion. I think he is concentrating on thrawns little joke to much to the exclusion of everything else. I can see him being scum.

##Vote Vivax
(Because some people get SOOOOO antsy if you dont follow your argument with your vote.)


I also want to see some more posts from our lurkers. Bluelightz and MunkE and Palmar.

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