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froggynoddy
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froggynoddy
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On December 30 2012 00:02 marvellosity wrote: hi froggy my first mafia partner in crime ^_^Hey Marv I was very much the Robin to your Batman that game (without the erotic tension I mean...) Look forward to my new foray into TL Mafia whenever it starts (it matters not to me... which makes me an anarcho-marxist perhaps?) | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 03 2013 09:36 Tunkeg wrote: I'd actually prefer people not posting, than posting exaggerated reads. Sure put on some pressure, analyse whats being said, but don't just post bullshit like Player A is 100% scum because he said he likes kittens. It is just nonsensical bullshit, and it shits up the thread. That is so silly it blows my mind. 'Exaggerated reads' gives you material to work with in order to read people's alignment... no posting gives you... NOTHING and MAfia becomes more like a game of chance. To state the bleeding: obviously I also don't like your general 'people should post not stupid' vibe you are giving off. Its how I have played scum in the past, give seemingly pro-town advice without actually doing anything constructive. Things that look pro-town but aren't very makes me lean scum on you. That being said the last game I played we mis-lynched you because we interpreted your aggressive (lets be honest slightly dumb) play as scum when you were just irrate. I had just hoped you'd got passed the 'irrate townie play' out of your system this past year... Prove me wrong Tunkeg ##Vote Tunkeg re Palmar: I think the fact that he has left the thread to (seemingly) gauge people's reactions and not stirr shit up makes me think that he is ever so slightly leaning town (similarly as Tunkeg is ever so slightly leaning scum). re Policylynching: whether it be arbitrary or lurking I the same logic applies. Lurking is just one factor of many to consider, and a weak one at that (even day 1), but is sufficient to base a case on day 1 on an individual basis. Sorry about the diffuse case but am gone for the next 12 hours (Modern art museum with gf  and there was a lot of shit to read. I haven't read much into toad, which is a shame, I will do when I get back.hf gl froggynoddy | ||
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My vote is still on Tunkeg. He went from engorged e-penis after a wagon started, saw that the wagon was still going and toned it down with little to no explanation, as if he'd been told to tone it down and wait for another wagon to roll on up. I think we should leave lurkers (vets or no) to vigs, theres less to read out of people voting a lurker rather than voting someone active or at least kind of active. I don't understand Palmar's trolling.. I must be super thick as well as bad. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 02:39 Tunkeg wrote: You guys shouldn't underestimate the butthurt in froggy. He plays with emotions rather then his brain. He want me to be scum so bad that he probably actually believe it. I wouldn't describe myself with buthurt. I cannot stand people with big egos who think the only way to play Mafia (or interact on the internet generally for that matter) is spraying their man juices (apologies for sexism) on everyone around rather than trying to act sensibly and cooperate. I voted on you to see how you would act knowing full well that you were a huge ego last time I played here regardless of alignment. Your reactions so far however have not impressed me, you don't deal with the why, point your finger at people and you state general shit out, but I doubt you care. To be fair the above could also be applied to Palmar. I just think that he has still created more material for people to read on d1, this to me is a townie action despite his behaviour. Your actions, regardless of your bad behaviour though seem scummy... but hey I must be listening to my emotions again... | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 03:54 marvellosity wrote: Hi froggy, stop inventing narratives dear. I'm finding it increasingly hard to justify your vote on Tunkeg given how, as you yourself noted, he played very similarly last time you played together with him (and me!). What is distinct between his play this game and that game that makes you sure enough to be voting him? In short: it would be silly for me to be certain about anything, particularly Day 1. You are correct about the narrative thing, I was kinda thinking this also. But I hoped Tunkeg would respond with something similar rather than have others jump in. My first vote on him was bad, purposefully so, it was meant to get a reaction, it didn't really work. What then pissed me off is that he doesn't defend himself at all but waits for interest to dissipate when big names come along and defend him. I guess this makes him maybe bad, but not necessarily scum. Ill unvote him because he's just ignoring me/doesnt want to respond and that what little pressure I can bear is now completely gone. ##Unvote Tunkeg | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 06:39 Tunkeg wrote: Thats it? Holy shit, what have the others done that warrant them being bad as fuck then? I really would like to know. No-one is voting for you, so why start yet another shit flinging contest? Who cares. Find scum or defend yourself from being called scum, why do you care from being called bad, its besides the point and detracts the thread from finding scum. That goes for me and the rest of the thread, in future I will call you out on scumminess not on whether I think your play to be bad... honest guv! | ||
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froggynoddy
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I personally would prefer a BC lynch. His posts all 'look' like he is helping town when he is not contributing anthing constructive that will be of help to town in the long run. He also jumped in to defend me when at best good players should have a null read on me s I have been pretty terribad. Scum seem more likely to jump in and help than town as, in the offchance that I flip; they would gain a little cred from me flipping town. I also still think if marv is scum then this is the worst Ive seen him play, which I guess is possible. I would also consider the fact that I think the town atmosphere in Day 1 (vets trolling, noobs like me trying to play serious to ahem disastrous effet) could have affected playstyle. that being said of the current list of candidates marv seems scummiest... I would prefer a BC or even Toad lynch as I a lot of what I've said against BC could be applied to toad. OTherwise, Hiropro tunnelling me sees quite townie. I dont see why scum would try and divert attention from Palmar and Toad lynches (unless they were both scum.. but then I would be such a strange/inadequate target no?) Dabears case on TUnkeg is just a more elaborate piece about how we think he's a bit of a dick. Not necessarilly scummy. I would still urge Tunkeg to ignore the potshots at him and prove how awesome he is by being pro-town. @Vivax: I may have sounded artificial because 1. I am a noob (6 games, 3 as town, only 1 as late game town where I lost the game because I hated Tunkeg and wanted him dead) 2. I havent played for a while 3. I feel uncomfortable playing town, I guess ly legal background means I am more comfortable lying... 4. I am BRitish, I despise personal conflict (particularly on the internet) so sometimes my tone can be a bit... constructed or perhaps considered. Should be around for next 3 hours and maybe later but am traveling all day tomorrow. I will back a marv lynch unless people can be convinced on voting BC. | ||
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froggynoddy
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The fact that: 1. Iamp conveniently didnt have the logs with him 2. Hours later Palmar refused to show the logs claiming (perhaps rightfully) that this this would not help town... I think this is true Day 1 as his reads, though convincing, are still based on just one days activity and noobs like me will feel strongly motivated to work on his assumptions rather than think for themselves. 3. Palmar finally gives up, even though he wasnt hugely at risk of a lynch. This, truly, is some more narrative construction and I am not saying that the logs were necessarily faked, just that I would rather base any judgment on his thread activity which honestly... baffles me so I cant really say one way or another. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 23:22 marvellosity wrote: froggy, i just posted why i dont find you scummy. reconsider your vote, you're not stupid. Tbh I dont feel completely comfortable with lynching you but honestly that case on Adam was super weak. that post in particular made me reconsider, it seemed desperate when you have plenty of time to find better scum targets. You defending me does not make you more townie. At best it is null, at worst its a scummy more clever attempt at 'seeming' like town. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 23:33 thrawn2112 wrote: why would scum masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? why would town masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? why would scum masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? because they needed more time to fake logs. I see what you are getting at though. Perhaps I was too unequivocal. I should have said that the logs should have less weight than actual thread content; not that they were worthless. why would town masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? to avoid being mislynched, I just dont think there was a a real risk of Palmar dying, but I may be wrong. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 23:39 thrawn2112 wrote: palmar has a good case on marv and i want to sheep it but bleh... lots of stuff in that case could be said about amlmost everyone in the thread and i kinda want to attribute marv's laziness to the general laziness of the thread and keep him around longer lazermonkey scum I feel exactly the same way (with bolded). I don't have an opinion on lazer. Will have a look. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:46 Vivax wrote: Also, it's the first time I see someone using his nationality as defence, don't do that froggy. The British invaded half the world a few centuries ago, so don't start with being "conflict avoiding". dude, chill. Was a joke... Way to fuck up this thread by starting the most offtopic argument ever. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 04 2013 23:42 froggynoddy wrote: why would scum masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? because they needed more time to fake logs. I see what you are getting at though. Perhaps I was too unequivocal. I should have said that the logs should have less weight than actual thread content; not that they were worthless. why would town masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? to avoid being mislynched, I just dont think there was a a real risk of Palmar dying, but I may be wrong. Also the formatting here went AWOL. should read: why would scum masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? because they needed more time to fake logs. why would town masons claim mason and not reveal logs till much later? to avoid being mislynched, I just dont think there was a a real risk of Palmar dying, but I may be wrong. I see what you are getting at though. Perhaps I was too unequivocal. I should have said that the logs should have less weight than actual thread content; not that they were worthless. | ||
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On January 04 2013 23:19 froggynoddy wrote: I personally would prefer a BC lynch. His posts all 'look' like he is helping town when he is not contributing anthing constructive that will be of help to town in the long run. He also jumped in to defend me when at best good players should have a null read on me s I have been pretty terribad. Scum seem more likely to jump in and help than town as, in the offchance that I flip; they would gain a little cred from me flipping town. I also still think if marv is scum then this is the worst Ive seen him play, which I guess is possible. I would also consider the fact that I think the town atmosphere in Day 1 (vets trolling, noobs like me trying to play serious to ahem disastrous effet) could have affected playstyle. that being said of the current list of candidates marv seems scummiest... I would prefer a BC or even Toad lynch as I a lot of what I've said against BC could be applied to toad. | ||
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froggynoddy
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On January 05 2013 01:55 Toadesstern wrote: okay to get this straight: BC is mafia because
Out of this might list of scumtreats (2 things in total, nothing wrong with that though) I am also town because A LOT of what you said against BC could be applied to me. I guess a lot = 1 thing? Go vote BC if you want to but don't pull this bullshit on me  No-one wants to kill BC today. A couple want to kill you so Im more likely to get you killed than BC. BC defending me is one example of appearing t look townie without actually contributing. Which is also what Im accusing you of. | ||
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froggynoddy
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I also think it is better to vote a lurker than for someone who is potentiall simply having a crappy Day 1 in a thread that was pretty trolly. ##Unvote ##Vote: Bloodycobbler | ||
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