Aperture Mafia 2: Portal Edition

On September 30 2012 23:55 Mattchew wrote:
well this is slow

On September 30 2012 15:44 austinmcc wrote:
...

I appreciate things getting off to a nice start, but really? Was I the only person who assumed that Keirathi didn't actually have some giant scumread on Mattchew? Given the reasons that he decided to vote mattchew (amg mattchew has used the term town and hasn't claimed a role that doesn't exist), I don't see the unvote as scummy. Vote for weak reasons, unvote for weak reasons.

Drazerk you ACTUALLY think it's anti-town to do that?

On October 01 2012 06:24 HiroPro wrote:


Can you explain this a little more?

And I don't think your point on JingleHell is very good. I can see someone who isn't very familiar with Drazerk jumping on that.

On October 01 2012 06:29 Drazerk wrote:
Don't apply meta to me

I will intentionally fuck with it to screw you guys over

On October 01 2012 08:53 iamperfection wrote:
@ memen why did you not include strongandbig when you mentioned that i did not include anything of "value" yet.

On October 01 2012 14:35 Keirathi wrote:

It was me. I've played with scum iamperfection in a newbie game a couple months ago, and observed a few of his recent townie games. In his townie games he is cocky, while in his scum game he was careful and lurky. I know it was a while ago, and that doesn't necessarily mean he wouldn't be cocky if he rolled scum again if he was more confident in his play, but my initial read was town.

On October 01 2012 23:44 gonzaw wrote:
Yeah but ghost is not Palmar.

We all know how scum Palmar works, and that's a thing a scum Palmar would do. Is it a thing scum ghost would do?
(well, to be honest I don't remember him in any games where he was scum though)

Hmm, okay people, what do you guys think about lynching one of these guys:
JingleHell
Mementos
Nisani
CrossFire
austin
iamperfection

And if you'd switch to one of them, why would you do it?

Like I said before I have that same "weird" feeling about them, but again it seems none of them other than Mementos decided to show up to contribute at all.
It wouldn't bother me too much since it's D1, but we are getting too close to the lynch deadline and we have to choose a lynch.

We have like 0 information on the table, so it's VERY likely this lynch will be a misslynch, specially if there's some incognito scum in the group of Mementos/Hiro/Keirathi/(me lol)/etc that are driving discussion.

But fuck what else can we do, right?

I'm leaving in like 20 minutes and wondering if I should put my placeholder (or basically lynch vote) onto someone else.
I'm gonna eat now....so convince me people

On October 02 2012 01:15 Mattchew wrote:
austin why arent you voting iamperfection with me?

On October 02 2012 01:18 JingleHell wrote:
I'd love to know where you get the absurd notion that all I've done is "make excuses". Providing my reasoning for being careful (when you yourself pressed for that reasoning to be explained no less) is hardly making excuses.

Or do you want townies to lead mislynches?

On October 02 2012 02:06 JingleHell wrote:
I'm noticing a trend. Both of the main people who want to lynch me are trying very hard to not be seen as the ones forcing the issue, and are basing it off of... not that much. That's Mattchew and Gonzaw, of course.

Amusingly, out of people who have talked to or about me, the one I'd be least suspicious of voting me also seems to be the one most inclined to actually wait for a good reason, and that's Keirathi.

On October 02 2012 01:43 austinmcc wrote:

Oh noes, I forgot.

##Vote: iamperfection

Sorry about that.

##Unvote
snip

On October 02 2012 06:08 austinmcc wrote:
Mementoss, what's your read on Keirathi?

On October 02 2012 08:45 gonzaw wrote:
Town...you impress me


Jingle is town, but he's bad. Bolded bad. Chill out, don't OMGUS, pay attention and don't get all cocky and arrogant and spam the thread with those defenses of yours.
The way you argued and interacted with people and the way you kept "shitting things up" even though it was obvious you should have stopped doing that as scum makes me think there's a chance you can be town, so take that chance and try to play better.

ghost and Nisani are likely scum I think, Mementos and Crossfire are there too.

ghost/Nisani/Mementos/Crossfire/Drazerk

I think all remaining scum are in there

Small reasoning here (I have to do some shit, and will have to consolidate a post of mine with all my thoughts and shit and that may take a while, so this is the tl;dr version):

ghost:
Yes, I had a "gut" feeling his initial posts may have been from "trolling" townie....but I get the gut feeling he's using scum tactics to pile onto Keirathi there. That post of his reeks of "I'm scum trying to make a case against someone I really want suspicion on".
No comments about iamperfection's interactions with him and viceversa.
Will read him fully later.
Nisani:
His "comeback" post was too fluffy and didn't contribute at all. He's not part of discussions at all, and doesn't even try to be.
"Not part of discussions"->Easiest heuristic for finding scum/town.
"Nisani is not part of discussions"->It's more likely he's scum.
Mementos:
He didn't do anything at all throughout D1. Same heuristic here as well, he hasn't been part of any discussion even though he was active (like when ghost asked him a question).
He didn't heavily push iamperfection so his vote on him doesn't mean anything, specially since unvoting him would not change anything.
Still, it doesn't seem right that he'd bus his scummate that early and never try to shift attention to some other townie, so I'll keep that in mind.
Crossfire:
This guy HAS to be scum. He has done 0 contributions at all and spent 70% of his post "joking" with Drazerk about how he's "confused" about him.
Drazerk:
Doesn't contribute and just skates by. Like I said he's likely to do the same as town because of the style of his play; but as time goes by it only increases the chances of him being scum.
Maybe S&B:
I dunno, I'll have to wait if he decides to be useful or not.

About Keirathi:
This dude is active as fuck, I heavily doubt he's scum at all nor even 3rd party.
Like I said before, there are some subtle things that make him town (like the same things that make Hiro town). Specially his attitude, activity and interactions with other people.

Everybody that's suspicious of him reread his filter and the D1 thread, and then tell me in the eyes he's scum (and not just townie that made mistakes) and explain why.


Yeah this is a shitty post, I'll be back later


P.S: See? This is why you always pay attention to Mattchew. Even if he's scum he 100% busses all his teammates so you are bound to kill any scum he points fingers at.

On October 01 2012 23:58 gonzaw wrote:
Matt, Hiro and Keirathi are all likely town.

S&B I'm torn off but wouldn't want lynched since I know he steps up his game after N1 (as seen in like all games I've been with him as town).
Drazerk is Drazerk, I see no reason to think he's scum and lynch him right now.

Yes, it's easy for scum to pick any townie from that list at random and point fingers, but there's no reason to believe him.
I trust some people here more than others, and it's the opinion of those that I'll take into account to determine my choice.
The "scummy" people would be forced to choose so I can see how they interact and contribute, but not to completely sway my opinion.

Well, tough luck I'm leaving right now.
You know what, fuck it:

##Unvote: iamperfection
##Vote: JingleHell

I don't really buy that "the world is against me" attitude and I haven't seen any contribution from him other than his scummy read on Drazerk (maybe his unvote is not that scummy, but it's the only thing I can go on).

Take into account that's a rash vote/placeholder, but oh well.

So long people!