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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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I wanna lynch goodkarma. That first post of his is really cautious (barely pressures BH even though he calls out a perceived contradiction and then calls prplhz's play scummy but doesn't throw a vote down on it) He then proceeds to bring up a point of discussion (lynching lurkers), which he himself admits likely won't happen this game. ##Vote goodkarma | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 18 2012 08:26 Blazinghand wrote: Yes, you have successfully posted a link to prplhz' filter in Mad Men. Would you like a cookie? A gold star? It must have been a lot of effort for you, and you really made yourself clear. You're fearless, and aren't afraid to vote first (link) and ratchet up the pressure afterwards (link) which may not be the best strat, but is definitely townie. You are bullheaded with your reads and aggressive. You don't prod first then vote, you vote then prod. All this in a game in which admittedly there are people you don't know at all. It's what a townie would do. Explain to me where exactly prplhz had an opportunity in the game to display behavior like this. And while you're at it, show me what the difference is between prplhz's first three posts in Mad Men and his posts so far. Because I don't see anything. | ||
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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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You tried to compare a full day 1 filter to like 5 posts made in the first page. Again, how is that a valid comparison? The rest of your case is all on 1 similar question. That's beyond stupid. | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 18 2012 08:54 Blazinghand wrote: ...what? prplhz made his vote on glasse when glasse's filter has 5 posts. He did it based on the posts I have quoted there. How the hell is that an "opportunity" when the stuff that's happened so far this game isn't an opportunity? Please explain your reasoning, because somehow it eludes me. I suspect we are thinking on different levels. Right but when you made your case, there had only been 1 page of total discussion in the thread. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 18 2012 08:55 Hapahauli wrote: Looks like we're on the same page about BH's case Hiro. Thoughts on mmtoss? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=5#91 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=5#97 Not interested right now. You 're the one who said this: In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss It's understandable that he'd defend his vote as not being "too early". I don't see anything wrong with what he said about austin. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 18 2012 09:14 goodkarma wrote: And prplhz has recently made a post that shows he is actually interested in scumhunting. It doesn't mean he's town, but given the case against him was largely based on meta, and his recent behavior (at least in my opinion) has been pro-town, I don't feel he's a good lynch candidate right now. This is why I give people a chance to discuss their viewpoints early, as otherwise I'd be vote swapping like a ridiculous amount through the first day and I don't feel this really helps at all. What was it specifically about prplhz's post that you liked? | ||
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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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On September 19 2012 01:04 Ange777 wrote: Because? Can't you give a reason when you are suddenly stating town or scum reads? Look at goodkarma's posts and what I've already said about him. Look at the voting in the thread. We have like 6 or 7 candidates each with one vote. That's a recipe for town disaster. And then look at what Palmar comes in and does - he throws three completely new candidates into the mix and doesn't give any real reason for them being scum. He's not trying to actually lead town onto a successful lynch, he's just trying to cause chaos. As for hapa: In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it. hapa was the person who brought up suspicion of Mementoss for jumping onto the prplhz case early. Yet later hapa tried to say that no one was supicious of Mementoss for voting early and says that Mementoss is making unneccessary excuses. When hapa asked me for my thoughts on Mementoss, that was one of the points I brought up. Yet hapa has completely ignored it. So not only did hapa not remember his own read, which suggests it's fake, but then he ignores me when I point out a direct flaw in his case. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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HiroPro
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On September 19 2012 01:45 Hapahauli wrote: Have an hour between classes to catch up on the last few pages. Will post as I catch up, but first the recent page of events: @ HiroPro: Apologies if I ignored you before - I got caught up in Zeph's case most of last night and didn't think about much else. But you do bring up a good point on that mementoss post (in regards to him defending himself), and I'll concede that as a contradiction. I'll withdraw my vote on MMtoss for now. Also Hiro, I'm also eager to hear what you think about marv's case + vote on you. ##Unvote There's nothing worth responding to. The only thing marv said was "hiro hasn't done much". | ||
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HiroPro
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On September 19 2012 02:25 Hapahauli wrote: @ Marv Regarding this: Why do you find Hiro's point compelling if you think he's mafia? You had your vote firmly on him at this point, and I don't understand why you'd be all of a sudden so willing to listen to, what appears to me as a weak observation about Palmar? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember you being fairly critical of the town in DN Mini mafia for wanting to lynch Palmar D1. Why are my points on goodkarma/Palmar weak. Explain. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 19 2012 01:37 HiroPro wrote: perfection, I'd like to hear what you think about my point on hapahauli. Let's not get carried away on the marv thing yet (@ prplhz). I'm generally very hesitant when lynching vets unless there's a really good case against them. I still need some answers, namely... Is this something that hapa normally feels? I remember him voting for Palmar in DN for no other reason than that Palmar was trolling. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
The entire thing: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:56 Mementoss wrote: I read it. It seems like you played with him alot and can really differentiate between his scum and town. It's not the most for sure case of all time, but the post felt scummy to me as soon as I read it and even moreso when I realized he hosted a game with MKfuba in it. He's the scummiest player so far. Iamperfection seems like noobie, why would mafia out themselves like that, also I think he is bitter because of his history with marv. ##vote: prplhz Blazinghand what do you think of hapa immediately coming to prplhz defence? + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote: Hai gais! Good to be back in a mini so I can actually keep track of people more closely =) Prplhz isn't exactly the most attentive host... I was in that game, and he basically forgot to make the last nightpost for a couple of hours. I wouldn't expect him to remember half the players in that game tbh =P Also what do you think of this clear contradiction from prplhz: + Show Spoiler + On September 18 2012 06:07 prplhz wrote: hey guys please no unnecessary bullshit it's perfectly possible to play the game without that and it only serves to make the game harder to read there are a couple of people around i have no idea who is, can anybody explain to me who mkfuba07 is? On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote: ... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize? If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss On September 18 2012 07:12 Mementoss wrote: I did explain it, I found his first post scummy and your case was just some icing on the scum. It's literally an hour in the game, there is no such thing as voting too early. If anything it's going to generate more discussion that can be looked into more later. But I agree on austinmcc being hard to tell what hes getting at as I pointed out, which seems scummy as he usually is very articulate in his posts and has a clear meaning for posting them. On September 18 2012 07:46 Hapahauli wrote: Alas! Austinmcc is at work so we won't be hearing from him for a while. One other post did catch my eye though: Holy wishy-washy post batman! Let's follow the logic: 1) First post is scummy and case makes prplhz scummier! 2) No such thing as voting too early! (errr... where did that come from? making excuses already?) 3) But eh... it will generate discussion and we'll look more into it later. (oh? thought prplhz was very scummy to you? awfully passive for such a strong read on him) 4) Holy freggin wishy-washy opinion on austinmcc. On September 18 2012 08:02 Mementoss wrote: 1) Yeah first post was scummy and it fits the meta analysis aka best case atm. How is accusing people scummy? 2) I said no such thing as voting too early is because a lot of people think they have to wait till last minute to vote especially on day 1, and usually a bad consolidation happens. Voting earlier will just bring up more cases throughout the day. 3) Nothing to do with one another. 4) How is calling someone scummy wishy washy. I don't follow your logic. But I guess it's your thing to jump on me day 1s lol. On September 18 2012 08:27 Hapahauli wrote: ##Unvote @ Austinmcc - Well posted and thanks for explaining your rationale. Enough for me to take the vote off for now. @ mmtoss - Point 1) is fine alone. It's the rest of your post that starts spiraling. Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it. Point 4 is a red flag for me in that you are soft-pushing suspicion on him. For reference: Dayyyyum son. ##Vote mementoss The important part: On September 18 2012 07:04 Hapahauli wrote: ... or it's not obvious at all, and it's a typical bad D1 case making insane meta connections with barely any samplesize? If you're pressuring him or whatever, cool, but the case is in no way "damning" or "TOO obvious." In fact, I'd expect scum to be the people most willing to be jumping on BH's case without so much as a thought. Namely austinmcc and mementoss On September 18 2012 08:27 Hapahauli wrote: ##Unvote @ Austinmcc - Well posted and thanks for explaining your rationale. Enough for me to take the vote off for now. @ mmtoss - Point 1) is fine alone. It's the rest of your post that starts spiraling. Why are you making excuses for voting too early (point 2 + 3)? Cool, you're voting early, no one is suspicious of you for it... and then you make pro-active excuses for it. Point 4 is a red flag for me in that you are soft-pushing suspicion on him. For reference: Dayyyyum son. ##Vote mementoss | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
Then we have bluelightz, who is very aware of his lack of contributions but isn't doing more. He had a huge post on mementoss similar to his playstyle, but he hasn't done much since. You consider this scummy from bluelightz? Knowing him, I'd be more concerned if he was actually trying to look useful. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
I can hardly follow up on my question to goodkarma when he got replaced... Zeph told me all that I need to know when he said it was purely on the meta - not something that I agree with but not something that I find suspicious. | ||
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