EPTNewbie Mini Mafia XXVII
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On September 14 2012 06:12 kushm4sta wrote: thrawn where are you Africa or some shit ? west texas i do have internet, i just have to walk/ride a long ass time to get it. | ||
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at the risk of being lynched based on meta, i'm /in hi kush | ||
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however i should still be able to hold true to my town meta of leading a mslynch on a townie d1 | ||
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already been town 3 times | ||
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someone join | ||
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blah blah blah lurkers r bad blah blah, etc | ||
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So on to more important matters, here's an idea: last person in the thread gets lynched discuss? | ||
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On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote: Terrible idea? Since we prob have liek 3 different time zones. Biggest lurker gets lynched is a better plan but still not that great. A lot of noobs are pretty lost about what to do day 1. Here are my suggestions for discussion topics: 1 discuss lurker policy. I know you are bored with it or whatever, thrawn, but for peopel to say how they feel about lurkers and if they want to lynch them or let them lurk (both are viable strategies imo) gives us a baseline for FOSing people that go back on their lurker policy. Like what if a scum says lynch all lurkers, then one of the scumbuddies turns out to be the biggest lurker. That puts him in a bad position that he could avoid without lurker policy discussion. Eh, lurker policy is a pretty obvious thing to talk about and shouldn't last longer than maybe a single statement (if that) from each player. However like you implied having something to talk about is better than having nothing but in my past games town went on and on about lurkers for like 12 hours which is obviously bad. On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:2 I think we should discuss a plan for how to spend time. Here is my proposed plan: Freely making cases against anyone you think is scum in the first 24 hours of the day, then focusing on a couple of the biggest bandwagons in the second 24 hours. Do you like this plan or do you have a better one? I would a more systematic scumhunt this game though. Lets not get too carried away with deciding on exactly how we'll proceed... that makes it very easy for mafia to hide. Remember the list stuff in our last game? Wasn't it sonic who proposed that idea and he ended up being scum and was able to hide his reads behind it because other people were also making lists? On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:3 Give an introduction of yourself. How experienced are you? Are you a total noob or have you obsed some games? Very important IMO is will you be around for lynch time? That's 9 pm normal time btw if you are new. How active do you plan on being. Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good. This is my last newbie game and I like writing long posts with lots of quotes. I should be around for lynch time during the week days but maybe not during the weekends. Also, wtf kush. "Honestly I think once a day is okay IF your posts are good" after you talk about how much you hate lurkers? On September 18 2012 11:18 kushm4sta wrote:An intro for myself is coming. I'll write you an intro. Hey everyone this is kush. Judging off his username I suspcet he is a fellow lover of the ganja, which probably explains a lot of his posts. He says whatever comes to mind, and in the games I played with him he said a lot of very scummy sounding things as a townie. So basically expect to be confused. He likes going for crazy ballsy plays which often is the reason why I always thought he was town, as scum would have to be crazy to do those things. | ||
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I disagree with: On September 18 2012 12:08 kushm4sta wrote: remedy getting a good scum read d1 is impossible. It happens occasionally. But of course since it's somewhat rare, I think it's perfectly reasonable for everyone to agree with the following: We should scumhunt and make accusations and all that stuff and not discuss who is the best lurker candidate until it's close (maybe around halfway or so into the 2nd 24 period of D1) to the deadline and under the condition that we didn't catch anyone making scumslips, telling lies, shit like that. Not discussing lurker lynch candidates doesn't mean ignoring lurkers... we can pressure them without arguing over who is the lurkiest. That happened in my last game (we spent all of day 1 arguing over who was the lurkiest) and our main candidates ended up being town. This is all I have to say about lurker policy unless we get over halfway into D1 with no good lynch candidates. So yeah, everyone say your opinion about lurker policy then let's drop the issue asap. | ||
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On September 18 2012 12:25 RemedySC wrote: We have to start somewhere, so I'll post a theory. Kushm4sta, you say that it gives scum safe people to accuse, and I agree with that point, but your comment in your policy looks like it would fit that point. It would be pretty safe for a mafia if they were able to convince people to lynch lurkers. So you agree with his point about lurkers. There isn't much room for argument when it comes down to the reasoning behind lurker policy, there is no sane player that will say "lurkers are pro-town." So him having that anti-lurker opinion is not anything that would be a strong tell in either the town or mafia direction. He would have it as town, and he would "pretend" to have it as mafia. I don't see his post as anything indicative of him as scum trying to blend in by saying normal things. On September 18 2012 12:25 RemedySC wrote:Also Thrawn pointed out your contradiction. He did give a reasonable response to my post... but kush I'd like to ask you, how would you feel about specifically me only posting once per cycle? | ||
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On September 18 2012 13:49 drazak wrote: I'm already accused of being trashy town? Really Kush? Man, you're prejudiced right off the bat. I know you can post while you're at work and stuff, but I can't post in class and I can't post when I'm tutoring people. If you'd like I can sleep-post and it'll be really bad. Sorry if my posts last game weren't up to your posting standard kush. For the record, I might not post consistently at different times, and maybe I'll push agressively against someone, my reasons will usually be good. I'd ask that people use their own logic after reading my posts, look at the evidence provided and use your logic. Last game we had a lot of people not thinking for themselves, I'll be going to bed soon so don't expect another post from me. I'll probably post in the morning, and I think I'll post before tutoring, but I don't think I'll be posting until maybe this time tomorrow again after that. My thoughts while reading this: "man this guy is going out of his way to defend himself when there's no need to" And that's a scum trait....so drazak, I'm watching you buddy. I don't see why you'd ask everyone to be fair and "use their own logic" and "look at evidence" when reading your future posts... obviously those things are what everyone is trying to do. It looks a little suspicious that you're already defending criticisms of your posts that haven't even happened yet. If it's all because kush pissed you off then too bad you should ignore that, he does it from time to time. | ||
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On September 18 2012 15:22 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Maffia XXVII survey (not filling it in will make you look scummy): 1. Will you be around for lynch time? 2. How active do you plan on being? 3. How many games have you obsed? 4. Is this your first game playing? 5. If not, how many games have you played? 6. Is this your first time playing as scum? Ok sonic this is even scummier than your "hey everyone should be making lists" tactics in XXVI. Some of those questions (1 and 2) you cant reasonably expect people to give solid/infallible predictions about, or at least not predictions accurate enough for you to lynch them later based on a discrepency between the prediction and their actual activity level, and the other questions you don't need people to answer them in order to get the information you want. 6 is just silly. I don't see the point at all of that survey other than to appear useful which imo it isn't.. and that's the same thing you were doing with the lists in xxvi. | ||
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On September 18 2012 15:40 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: A good policy, however, is to not answer questions intended for someone else. Whether accusations are valid or not they may induce interesting reactions, so please stop defending other players. stop telling me what to do I didn't answer a question that wasn't directed at me. I was participating in the current discussion. And no I don't want you to explain what happened during xxvi because unlike you claimed, I was paying attention that game because I played in it lol. You were onbaord with the list idea, in fact I think you were the one who suggested it in the first place. Then I immediately pointed out was a bad idea and something that scum could use to blend in without having to commit to reads, and hey, surprise, you ended up flipping scum. Now you are here in a new game, once again suggesting some useless idea that will do nothing but spam up the thread with stuff that's almost impossible to base reads off of. Yep. | ||
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On September 18 2012 16:34 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: You were answering accusations towards Kush. You don't see why that is a bad idea? I can see how it is bad to answer questions but I'm just not liking how much you like to tell people exactly what to do. Being "thread-cop" bascially. It's not necessarily scummy I just don't like it lol. On September 18 2012 16:34 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:You want to accuse me, but you still don't want me to explain? You're not giving my argument a fair representation. I still think lists is a good idea if they're limited to your ~3 top suspects AND include your reasoning. That way it's easy to follow a player's thought process through the thread wrt to his key reads (instead of reads being blended into a wall of text, hi there Jacob). That's what I suggested. And you're suggesting I was hiding behind lists. I never made any long ass lists, which a lot of other players did. Again, we don't need a list discussion. Just post your suspects along with your reasoning in any way you like. But make sure to make those posts clear. All I wanna say about lists/survey is this: you suggested list making in xxvi and I thought it was a scummy idea and you ended up being scum that game. Now you are suggesting another idea that I think is scummy and to me it's very similar to the xxvi situation. On September 18 2012 16:34 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:So this was serious? It's a mind numbingly stupid idea. Unless you're scum and suggest it for an easy d1 town lynch. It's very easy to coordinate your scum team not to be the last one in the thread and you get away with an easy lynch. Since you don't seem mind numbingly stupid and it was a serious idea, it's scummy. Yeah it was a serious question and no of course I don't think it's a good idea. I was trying to move the discussion past the mostly useless lurker policy talk circlejerk while providing easy bait for scum to jump at. I kinda failed in the first aspect but you seem to have jumped at the bait stronger than anyone else. fos sonic | ||
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