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On June 23 2012 14:17 Sinensis wrote: You try explaining to 30 people why they should hate someone they don't know yet. I'm all for band wagon hatred! explain away | ||
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On July 01 2012 08:12 BroodKingEXE wrote: I think a vote count would be appropriate: Votecount: VisceraEyes: mKmKmK(2): NoSmurfHere, rastaban BroodKEXE(4): Katina, Bill Murray(1): Acrofales Acrofales(1): Bill Murray casualman(3): Mattchew, BroodKingEXE, casualman This reads as scum to me. Reorganizing public information and posting it as a friendly town helping message, even though in reality it offers very little information. I hear "Hey guys, scum would never post a vote count where they are losing! Clearly BKE just has the town's best interests at heart!" On a side note though, what reasons would there be for casualman to vote for himself if he were town? | ||
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On July 01 2012 16:07 BroodKingEXE wrote: Are you going to ninja vote me for posting a votecount? You got to be kidding me, own up to your vote and post it in the thread dude. Or are you a scum trying to jump the wagon unnoticed? Not sure that ninja voting is against the rules, but just so we can stay friends: ##vote: BKX I made my case against you, not really trying to hide anything. The current "bandwagon" against you is merely logical, nothing personal ^^ | ||
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haha where to start... My first post that you quote was from before the game even started, so it probably shouldn't be taken to seriously. I simply don't know anyone here and was trying to start a conversation. The fact that you see a contradiction is also puzzling I can sort of see how it could be misinterpreted that I was saying "I am all for the hatred of bandwagons" but thats not what I was saying. In fact I was saying the opposite, I was asking to be clued in so I could join a bandwagon, but this was largely a joke. Suffice to say, anything I said before the game officially started probably shouldn't concern town too much. I do take issue with your use of the word band wagon though, upon reading the thread I found both BKE and Kurumi extremely suspicious, regardless of other players posts, and made my thoughts known. BKE says alot while conveying extremely little actual information, appearing to be helpful but really just mixing the pot. Kurumi writes long winded, somewhat schizophrenic sounding poems to his co-workers that are about as informative as a fortune cookie. I don't to see a vote count or FOS: BKE FOS:Kurumi for my brain to begin forming conclusions. As for the cutesy yuck bit, he seemed pretty angry that I would vote in the vote in the voting thread without warning him, so I tried to keep things light  (read: I wrote something much ruder but thought better of it and decided to kill him with niceness :D)As far as calling out casualman, I tried very hard to think of any strategic reason a town would vote for themselves and I could think of none. I had the same issue with VE voting for himself, but voted unvoted in the same post, sort of like lowering and raising a supply depot while you wait for your rax to build i guess, so I really don't have a problem with it going under the radar. | ||
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He didn't call out casual directly. Look at the way he phrased the call out. It was a question, which means he was searching for confirmation before pushing the statement. Since the town didn't really get on casual, he jumped on my wagon. Incorrect sir, even if casualman is scum, he doesn't appear to be smart enough to really pose too much of a threat and doesn't really seem worth a day 1 lynch. Again there is no reason that anyone would vote for themselves as town, and no one has really tried to defend that vote, just make accusations against the people that notice it? I don't understand. If there is a legitmate reason town would vote for themselves, please, change my mind. | ||
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On July 02 2012 05:21 Mattchew wrote: So he just randomly through out the 2 names being discussed most as lynch candidates at the time by his own accord, without almost any reason attached to it? I fail to see how this is pro-town in any way. So someone you consider "unreadable" through their posts, is supposed to help town? Trolling, in your opinion, may not be indicative of alignment but how can you consider anyone offering actual opinions and thoughts as a better day 1 lynch than somoeone who is literally offering us nothing (in your opinion) to read him based off of. Also, you fail to add in my second point of how all his "forms of trolling" have basically been done in the threads by others beforehand. This is an ez mode way to blend in by doing something someone else did. Read any game with BM in it. A. 90% he's scum. and B. when he's left unchecked town often lose So you think its ok to tell people that they must focus on only BKE in a game of 27, yet when someone votes BKE with no reason thats ok? There is a huge contradiction there. If BKE flips town, and we have 14+ voters on him with very little reason, his mis-lynch will yield zero information to town. People should be pushing for peoples reasons and thoughts, not for just them to vote for their favorite lynch candidate. I think you are completely wrong and are reading things in a wrong way. I can't tell if this is on purpose or not. I'm not sure how my reasoning would be considered random. I explained why I thought the 2 people that I thought. You seem much more concerned with meta gaming then focusing on the game you in right now. Saying that someone is scum in 90% of past games shows that you are behaving irrationally, emotionally, or just plain being disruptive. As well as a deficiency in statistical analysis  | ||
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##vote: Foxtrotter | ||
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As evidenced in our slightly bizarre interaction before the game started, Foxtrotter and I are real life friends. We agreed not to talk about mafia outside of the thread, but the one time we did talk a bit about how roles were being assigned, and being a little worried that roles would be given preference to more veteran players. Anyway, none of that matters. I got an incredibly scummy read from the tone of his voice and the general interaction(obviously a false read). I had just started a game of league of legends with him while browsing the thread when I noticed the huge bandwagon switch to Fox. Since i had just got a scummy read from him and there was already alot of votes going toward him I wanted to vote for him, but I felt panicked because I wasn't really sure how much time I had since the post above mine said 1 hour left. Obviously I regret it but i simply ran out of time. | ||
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My current read is that if there is a Ringleader in this game (godfather), it is NoSmurfHere. + Show Spoiler + NoSmurfHere New Zealand. July 01 2012 10:25 Also your belief in "proof" probably suggests you shouldn't be playing mafia, given that most accurate reads are not based on anything anywhere close to proof. I feel he may be breadcrumbing for a detective role check. It was just a note next to his name when I Look at the interaction between NoSmurfHere and rastaban. After NoSmurfHere starts the bandwagon against mKmKmK(a lurker lynch I really didn't agree with), he seems very interested in a role claim from NoSmurfHere, perhaps trying to get a detective to waste a night and make a really dangerous "confirmed towny". + Show Spoiler + On July 01 2012 00:53 rastaban wrote: Yeah let's not anger the host. The other option is he is a blue acting strangely to it, but I am sure Mafia already thought of this if he isn't on their team so he is outed regardless of alignment. I think this is the easy and probably accurate lynch for today, so we should be thinking about pushing for a role claim from him. I may be reaching, but again, I think I may wake up dead and wanted to get my thoughts out there. | ||
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On July 02 2012 09:08 NoSmurfHere wrote: Alright, here's the thing: If mK comes back to vote he's 100% scum. I'm banking on him getting modkilled to even consider this a decent idea. Probably a stupid idea, but w/e. I don't like the BKE lynch and the only reasonable alternative now is foxtrotter. I say that (particularly if fox flips town) we need to get a vig to shoot mK. ##unvote ##vote Foxtrotter | ||
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