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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 19:06:48
May 18 2012 22:11 GMT
#1
SC2 Strategy Forum Guideline/Moderation Changes

As you may have noticed we have recently updated the Strategy Forum Guidelines. The first purpose of this is to update the rules so that they can conform to the modern strategy forum. The second is to more clearly lay out and define the rules so you can't say they're unclear or not posted anywhere. Here are the most important changes in policy:

1. The race specific help me threads have shown to be very useful in consolidating questions and eliminating forum clutter. As such, we have decided to feature them and link them in the main guidelines.

2. We have decided to retire the old [Q] threads as no one was really using them anyways. The ones that were made seemed like just lazy [H] threads that could have been asked in the race specific help me threads. We also feel that a combination of [H] threads, [D] threads, and the race specific help me threads can cover the role that the old [Q] threads once did.

3.There are a few things that were a part of the old policy which we have decided to further highlight:
  • Rule Number 1: Everything you say must be backed with evidence.
    Everything you say must be backed by sound reasoning, a replay, or a vod, preferably more than one of those. You can no longer simply just say "Go stalkers and sentries vs that", even if it's right. Similarly, a response indicating a poor understanding of the topic without evidence will be warned. In addition, simple stories of what you do will not be acceptable without analysis. Long gone will be the days of "I go hellion expand into banshees and it works good for me"
  • You must watch replays when responding to posts with replays.
4. With these new guidelines, there will be much more strict moderation. Anything that comes to close to breaking the guidelines will be warned and multiple offenses will be banned. Hopefully, these changes will help in stemming the tide of bad threads and bad posts.

Please keep comments on the changes in this thread.
Post here in the website feedback forums if you feel like you have been unjustly warned. Try not to have moderation discussion in the actual strategy forum topics.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-18 22:24:26
May 18 2012 22:23 GMT
#2
Awesome!

Although, I thought you already retired [Q] threads?
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NoisyNinja
Profile Joined February 2011
United States991 Posts
May 18 2012 22:29 GMT
#3
Good to get a heads up. I've noticed a lot of new posters who come here and post bullshit without thinking. Good to see moderation teams stepping up
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
May 18 2012 22:32 GMT
#4
Yessir

Speaking of replays, will there be a level of "acceptability" for replays? I suppose it depends on the league of the poster asking questions, but is (for example) my own diamond/low master level considered "enough"?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 19 2012 00:59 GMT
#5
On May 19 2012 07:23 Fencer710 wrote:
Awesome!

Although, I thought you already retired [Q] threads?

Not officially. People just stopped using them.
On May 19 2012 07:32 Teoita wrote:
Yessir

Speaking of replays, will there be a level of "acceptability" for replays? I suppose it depends on the league of the poster asking questions, but is (for example) my own diamond/low master level considered "enough"?

It's really hard for mods to watch and judge each replay, so it can't technically be moderated, but generally, yes there are circumstances where low level replays won't cut it.
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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
May 19 2012 01:57 GMT
#6
Yeah I never really liked the [Q] threads. Good move imo.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
May 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#7
This looks really great. I'm especially glad to see the emphasis on replay watching and stricter moderation, which I think will help a great deal in the quality of [H] threads.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10348 Posts
May 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#8
does it count as evidence if you refer to a specific game, or do you have to find the URL to it?
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#9
On May 19 2012 11:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
does it count as evidence if you refer to a specific game, or do you have to find the URL to it?

Yea, that's fine. Just give the person enough information to find the game. Obviously the more specific you are, the better.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10348 Posts
May 19 2012 02:39 GMT
#10
Thanks!

really liking this new rule, btw! and hope that the rule that you have to watch replays continues to get enforced
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Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
May 19 2012 10:14 GMT
#11
In the new thread you give an example link to "[G] PvZ Dealing with mutas" as an example of a good [G] thread but it's actually a [D] thread.
The thread is actually of [G] quality of course but this might confuse new users, I think a mod should retag it.
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Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
May 19 2012 12:44 GMT
#12
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming
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Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
May 19 2012 13:00 GMT
#13
So glad about this, it frustrates me the amount crap i read (and occasionally catch myself writing) that had no evidence at all presented beside it.
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Kasu
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
May 19 2012 13:09 GMT
#14
On May 19 2012 21:44 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming

If by boring you mean useful.
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
May 19 2012 13:24 GMT
#15
On May 19 2012 22:09 Kasu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 21:44 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming

If by boring you mean useful.


If the bars are raised too high, there will be no posts ...
21 is half the truth
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
May 19 2012 13:39 GMT
#16
On May 19 2012 22:24 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 22:09 Kasu wrote:
On May 19 2012 21:44 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming

If by boring you mean useful.


If the bars are raised too high, there will be no useless posts ...


Fixed Your welcome.

Great move guys! was really waiting for the strategy forum to get more demanding, especially after the threads by lynna and TheMista got poluted by a fuck tone of **********...
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2578 Posts
May 19 2012 13:44 GMT
#17
On May 19 2012 22:24 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 22:09 Kasu wrote:
On May 19 2012 21:44 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming

If by boring you mean useful.


If the bars are raised too high, there will be no posts ...

If the number of posts in the strategy forum were reduced to about 5% of what they are now, it would be a much better resource in my opinion.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 13:47:30
May 19 2012 13:45 GMT
#18
Well I'll probably get my first ban if I make it a habit of posting too much in the strategy forums now. My strategy is learned from rampant consumption of knowledge from sites like Team Liquid, not from personal experience. Thus, I know what to do in most any circumstance, but usually not why.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
May 19 2012 13:47 GMT
#19
On May 19 2012 22:44 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 22:24 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
On May 19 2012 22:09 Kasu wrote:
On May 19 2012 21:44 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
OMG i am not sure if i like this "more of the same" decision. TL will get more boring every day .. over regulation incoming

If by boring you mean useful.


If the bars are raised too high, there will be no posts ...

If the number of posts in the strategy forum were reduced to about 5% of what they are now, it would be a much better resource in my opinion.


Yeah. Pretty much all the replies these days are just repeating what other replies already said. Cutting the posting down to 5% would keep it short and concise.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Macpo
Profile Joined September 2010
453 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 14:26:04
May 19 2012 14:10 GMT
#20
I am wondering about the specific "help me threads". The standards, there, are a bit lower than the standard of, let's say, the OP of a new thread. I think it's a good thing: asking help in a three line message can't be acceptable as a new thread, but seems to be fair enough in the "help me threads". Maybe you could acknowledge that in the forum guidelines?

Also, I find this rule of "backing everything you say with evidence" a bit excessive and inapplicable: If it is necessary for an OP, can we expect anyone posting a reply giving some link to back up his claim? have a look at any thread, you will see that a precise application of the guidelines seems quite impossible (in my opinion at least!).

"Courage consists, however, in agreeing to flee rather than live tranquilly and hypocritically in false refuges." G. Deleuze
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