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gnr9292
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:30:53
April 14 2012 23:26 GMT
#1
Im just curious about how TL thinks about dog meat.

The topic of dog meat usually controversial and evokes strong reactions,
but it seems to me that it's usually an emotional response.
I myself am a Korean-American and Koreans are usually embarrassed by the fact that
Koreans consume dog meat like a lot of the other East Asian countries.
It is usually the elderly men in these countries that consume the meat because they were brought up experiencing their fathers do the same and so on.

I personally would never try dog meat but Im not embarrassed by this nor proud, because this is Korea's culture and I see nothing wrong with it. This is a subject that is vulnerable to slippery slope argument because you may argue "what if rape/murder/cannibalism is part of a culture" but I think that consuming dog meat is unethical to the extent of consuming cow/chicken/pig.

If you don't agree you are discriminating between the value of animals. Some people argue that dogs are cuter, more loyal or smarter then other animals. However there is no rigorous evidence to prove that they are. Also even if we assume dogs are cuter, more loyal and smarter then other animals it feels like that it is a very arbitrary standard to discriminate over these values. Should we have a measure of cuteness/intelligence/loyalty and consume whatever animal that is lower than an arbitrary limit?

It feels like people react with ethnocentrism about this topic because the western culture is use to personifying dogs for thousands of years but you have to account that asian countries have been consuming dogs as meat for thousands of years.

I do not want to argue about the morality of consuming meat(carnivory) but Im curious about the positions that are okay with consuming cow/chicken/pig but not okay with dog/cat meat.

and also assume that the dog meat is sanitary and goes through proper procedure.
The dog is also killed humanely.




Poll: Are you okay with the consumption of dog meat?

YES (1304)
 
81%

NO (314)
 
19%

1618 total votes

Your vote: Are you okay with the consumption of dog meat?

(Vote): YES
(Vote): NO

NtsenG
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:28:09
April 14 2012 23:27 GMT
#2
so you think its any more or less ok to eat cows or pigs just because they are less cute? lol
yeaR
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom100 Posts
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#3
I don't mind people eating it, I just don't like the way it's being bred.. etc..
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#4
Oh god, really?

I have had the displeasure of eating dogmeat before without knowledge. My dad brought home food from a party, and told me it was goat. Ill still never forgive him.

And in case anyones wondering, I am filipino.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44359 Posts
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#5
As long as it's not my dog and it's cooked properly, I'm fine with it (as a meat-lover).
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Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#6
just because they are man's best friends.. i dont get it. I've seen shows where for example a farmer child grows up with a piglet or sheep but it ends up being butchered. same logic
beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:31:02
April 14 2012 23:29 GMT
#7
even though i love the hell out of dogs, i have to agree that there's nothing inherently wrong with this.




but this thread would explode if i claimed that eating human meat would be the same








- just to clarify. i would never eat dog nor human meant! i also dont like eating any meat at all though. those poor things that have to die!
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
April 14 2012 23:30 GMT
#8
The distinction I make is that cows/chickens/etc are raised intentionally for food whereas dogs/cats/etc are domesticated for companionship. I don't think there is anything morally wrong with eating them, I just wouldn't.
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Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
April 14 2012 23:30 GMT
#9
Nothing wrong with it--I don't eat red meats personally though, so doesn't matter to me.
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
April 14 2012 23:31 GMT
#10
I've never tasted any but if it's yammy and nutritious, pass it right over!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 14 2012 23:31 GMT
#11
I wanna try dog meat sometime just to see what it tastes like.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
April 14 2012 23:32 GMT
#12
It's not any worse than eating other animals.
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TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
April 14 2012 23:32 GMT
#13
I never understood why people didn't like others eating dog meat. Dogs are animals, no? As are cows, pigs, and chickens.
They've been used for food for more than thousands of years.
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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:34:30
April 14 2012 23:33 GMT
#14
What do you mean there is no evidence to prove that " that dogs are... more loyal... then other animals" other than the fact that since the dawn of time men have had Dogs as pets. Sayings always have some element of truth to them so the phrase "mans best friend"

Also you say that there is no evidence that "dogs are cuter than other animals" well that is quite a subjective thing to say and what one person finds cute compared to another person. The only kind of Pig or Cow which would be called cute would be a baby one, not the old ass cows, and especially, pigs.

Also you say that we are discriminating between different kinds of animals. This is not illegal and humans have ate these kinds of animals for hundreds of years.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:36:22
April 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#15
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47511#4

History repeats itself

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=Eat dog
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 23:40:22
April 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#16
There was a time when eating dog would have horrified me. And then I had to deal with a lot of rotten dog owners...

But in all seriousness, I wound up eating dog in a village in China and it was actually pretty good. Or maybe I was starved for meat as the closest we were eating at that point was fried fat. We were told it was pig until we pulled up one of the paws
But it was actually pretty tasty and I would do it again.

We tend to anthropomorphize domestic animals and therefore the thought seems mortifying. But those dogs in China or east Malaysia are pretty sketchy to begin with. I understand that people find it repulsive and I wouldn't petition for McDonalds to include dog hamburger, but I don't think it's ethically wrong.


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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 14 2012 23:35 GMT
#17
Many people treat dogs as "part of the family". I understand the abstract argument, but there's no way you care about it as much as others care about dogs. Basically, even if you're right you're never going to win the argument or make dog meat acceptable.
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 14 2012 23:38 GMT
#18
Dogs are too cool to eat, man's best freind and all. I'm going to say no. Now cats I could get down with.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
April 14 2012 23:38 GMT
#19
On April 15 2012 08:29 yeaR wrote:
I don't mind people eating it, I just don't like the way it's being bred.. etc..

Look up the details of egg-farming (from chickens in particular, though I'm sure the conditions are just as bad for ducks, quails, etc.). The treatment's inhumane. I would say that most animals that provide food for us are treated poorly.

Anyways, lots of people keep fish and birds but have no issue eating salmon/tuna/etc. or chicken/quail/duck/etc., so it's kind of funny that some claim that eating dogs is barbaric or w/e just because they own a dog. I'm kind of ambivalent to it myself, but I wouldn't be horrified by the prospect of eating dogmeat. I'd take it over escargot any day of the week ...
gnr9292
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
90 Posts
April 14 2012 23:38 GMT
#20
On April 15 2012 08:34 Cambium wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=47511#4

History repeats itself

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=Eat dog


uhh have you read those threads?
I did a search before I made this thread
and none of those threads centrally deal with the ethics of dog meat
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