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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 14 2012 18:46 GMT
#21
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 19 2012 15:38 GMT
#78
We full? We starting. Maybe Mods should do a mass pm ready check cause signups have been up for awhile
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 20 2012 02:01 GMT
#88
lets do this tomorrow? its a date
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 20 2012 13:22 GMT
#111
##vote VE, too soon?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 20 2012 13:57 GMT
#113
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:02 GMT
#131
so my teammates are + Show Spoiler +
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:11 GMT
#141
On April 21 2012 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Mattchew

Scum were going to win sir. WE WERE GOING TO WIN!!!

yeah, you were. sorry im MKP and you Parting.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:12 GMT
#142
actually, im more of the IPL internet (or computer) and your parting (scum team prime)
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:15 GMT
#144
So anyway should we policy lynch Bill Murray because
a. he is scum in like 99% of his recent games
b. he gets away with everything "because he's Bill Murray"
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:21 GMT
#148
On April 21 2012 09:17 johnnywup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 09:15 Mattchew wrote:
So anyway should we policy lynch Bill Murray because
a. he is scum in like 99% of his recent games
b. he gets away with everything "because he's Bill Murray"

No, because he's Bill Murray.
Seriously though, Policy Lynches should be a last resort. This is stated at the beginning of every game by one player or another, I don't get how people still want policy lynches.

why so serious, why not let the idea breathe? maybe even have it force BM to post, maybe let some scummy mofo's bandwagon it? Are you going to shoot down anyone pressure voting too cause thats gonna make you cover up for a lot of peoples reactions
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 00:24 GMT
#150
what about roleblockers laya?
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 04:03 GMT
#230
Yo anyone else reading paqman's posts... cause you guys should... scummy as fuck
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 04:10 GMT
#232
To elaborate
On April 21 2012 10:49 PaqMan wrote:
I like Gonzaw's idea of the vig's claiming. Only problem with that is that Scum will have a list of vig's and won't have to do any sniping..
So now that I think about it, I don't really like that idea at all lol.

Town can't keep assuming things this game. It'll make an ass out of u and me. We don't know how many of what roles there are and continuous speculation isn't going to help at all.

This reads to me as "i don't want to take a side, i want to look like i like both sides to the argument" also, lets change subject (but wait, read on)


On April 21 2012 11:43 PaqMan wrote:
Woops, I'm sorry! Scarface is on tv and I'm trying to multitask. It isn't working out obviously, so I'll be back in about three hours.

apology post and leave to get away from being wrong.

On April 21 2012 11:49 PaqMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Paq he's talking about if there are more than 3 CLAIMS. If there are more than three CLAIMS then there's guaranteed to be a liar in the bunch, which is what he's saying.

Now go be a good lad and vote for gonzaw.


I'm not convinced that he made a scum slip. When he said "our" he could have been referring to whoever agreed with his points. I want to see what Gonzaw has to say about your accusation.

Interestingly filmsy opinion again, to me this just feels like he has more information than I do


On April 21 2012 12:01 PaqMan wrote:
But I do agree with you VE. Giving scum any more info puts them in an even greater advantage over us. A mass vig claim would be the same as handing them a hit list.
some of gonzaw's points however are pretty valid (no late-game chaos with vig claiming before lynch, etc etc).

Either way, I can't see a vig following either one of y'alls policies.
He claims, town lynches him and nothing is gained.
He claims, chance of mafia taking him out or keeps him alive, either way there's chaos.

I suggest that our vigilante (if we have one) doesn't claim at all. If he's about to be lynched then he needs to defend himself as a normal townie because claiming vig is going to create a shitstorm for us, which gives scum the upper hand.
If he's going to use his kp one someone, he doesn't need to claim before or after the kill. It's going to create too much confusion and WIFOM and finger-pointing and shit.

So I think that vigilantes should not make any claims this game.


I know how much we love the 3rd and 4th person to jump on an opinion and now that he knows people will agree with him, he can be firm in his assertion

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 04:15 GMT
#234
hey johnny whatchu think of the post above yours
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 04:21 GMT
#237
you can make it for him

and johnny care to elaborate on what you agree or disagree with about paq, and maybe shed some new light to me.

bedtime... i'll be up in like 9 hours back at it again so you euros can play with me too
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 17:31 GMT
#299
I find it funny that paqman decides to attack me for lurking when I posted that I was going to sleep. Then votes me because I made a case against him? That makes sense, vote the guy thats actively looking for scum then accuse him of shit he isn't doing!

also gonzaw this is noted
We were discussing Paqman's behaviour, and Matt's suspicious behaviour too (for instance).

Why is paqman's only behaviour and mine suspicious? Do you find me to actually be more suspicious than paqman?


layabout what exactly about the marvel case do you like? also;
On April 21 2012 23:32 layabout wrote:
The Paqman case is forced as all hells.

+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 12:01 PaqMan wrote:
But I do agree with you VE. Giving scum any more info puts them in an even greater advantage over us. A mass vig claim would be the same as handing them a hit list.
some of gonzaw's points however are pretty valid (no late-game chaos with vig claiming before lynch, etc etc).

Either way, I can't see a vig following either one of y'alls policies.
He claims, town lynches him and nothing is gained.
He claims, chance of mafia taking him out or keeps him alive, either way there's chaos.

I suggest that our vigilante (if we have one) doesn't claim at all. If he's about to be lynched then he needs to defend himself as a normal townie because claiming vig is going to create a shitstorm for us, which gives scum the upper hand.
If he's going to use his kp one someone, he doesn't need to claim before or after the kill. It's going to create too much confusion and WIFOM and finger-pointing and shit.

So I think that vigilantes should not make any claims this game.


I know how much we love the 3rd and 4th person to jump on an opinion and now that he knows people will agree with him, he can be firm in his assertion

Because people are giving opinions there will inevitably be people who give opinions that other already have. Paqman was the 2nd to say that vigilantes should not claim + Show Spoiler +
(after VE, johnny also seems to support the idea but didn't take this stance Sentinel doesn't count because he didn't read the OP and his opinion cannot have had much grounding).
But how is that scummy? You might argue that he was trying to sheep town sentiment but at that point the thread was still quite divided.

I was saying that he did this after he had tried to post a middle of the road opinion. Then 2 or 3 others came in shooting down gonzaw's plan and he all of a sudden becomes much firmer in his stance (its like a bandwagon opinion instead of a bandwagon vote)


+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:49 PaqMan wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Paq he's talking about if there are more than 3 CLAIMS. If there are more than three CLAIMS then there's guaranteed to be a liar in the bunch, which is what he's saying.

Now go be a good lad and vote for gonzaw.


I'm not convinced that he made a scum slip. When he said "our" he could have been referring to whoever agreed with his points. I want to see what Gonzaw has to say about your accusation.

Interestingly filmsy opinion again, to me this just feels like he has more information than I do

Paqman's comment is reasonable.
VE's vote is dependent on a particular interpretation of the use of the word "our". Nobody should be convinced by it!Not being convinced is reasonable. Wanting to see how a player reacts to an accusation before judging them is reasonable
I am wondering how mattchew ended up "feeling" like this comment in any way indicated that Paqman had more information than him.


I got that feeling because its context can be read that he is basically telling VE that he is wrong, but doesn't want blantantly tell him that.



Also, I never commented on the vig plans cause I don't care about blues, as I have said a lot in coaching, they are a nice to have not a need to have. What a town needs to have is scum hunting and clear townies, this will support our blues more than any amount of direction.

I don't think Gonzaw's plan is scummy, however I don't agree with scum being forced into acting the way he thinks they will. His entire plan, I feel, revolves around vigs getting their shots right, which will be hard enough in this game.

I am null on VE, I am hoping that whatever he is doing will become more evident as the day goes on, cause right now he just looks like he is tunneling a little.

Layabout just mentioned all the lurkers, I have already said I'm down with a BM lynch (a little less now that Paqman said that too).
I would also be willing to lynch anyone else on that lynch that doesn't come out to play


There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 17:32 GMT
#300
I hate making a big post and being at the bottom of the page
On April 22 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote:
I find it funny that paqman decides to attack me for lurking when I posted that I was going to sleep. Then votes me because I made a case against him? That makes sense, vote the guy thats actively looking for scum then accuse him of shit he isn't doing!

also gonzaw this is noted
Show nested quote +
We were discussing Paqman's behaviour, and Matt's suspicious behaviour too (for instance).

Why is paqman's only behaviour and mine suspicious? Do you find me to actually be more suspicious than paqman?


layabout what exactly about the marvel case do you like? also;
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 23:32 layabout wrote:
The Paqman case is forced as all hells.

+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 12:01 PaqMan wrote:
But I do agree with you VE. Giving scum any more info puts them in an even greater advantage over us. A mass vig claim would be the same as handing them a hit list.
some of gonzaw's points however are pretty valid (no late-game chaos with vig claiming before lynch, etc etc).

Either way, I can't see a vig following either one of y'alls policies.
He claims, town lynches him and nothing is gained.
He claims, chance of mafia taking him out or keeps him alive, either way there's chaos.

I suggest that our vigilante (if we have one) doesn't claim at all. If he's about to be lynched then he needs to defend himself as a normal townie because claiming vig is going to create a shitstorm for us, which gives scum the upper hand.
If he's going to use his kp one someone, he doesn't need to claim before or after the kill. It's going to create too much confusion and WIFOM and finger-pointing and shit.

So I think that vigilantes should not make any claims this game.


I know how much we love the 3rd and 4th person to jump on an opinion and now that he knows people will agree with him, he can be firm in his assertion

Because people are giving opinions there will inevitably be people who give opinions that other already have. Paqman was the 2nd to say that vigilantes should not claim + Show Spoiler +
(after VE, johnny also seems to support the idea but didn't take this stance Sentinel doesn't count because he didn't read the OP and his opinion cannot have had much grounding).
But how is that scummy? You might argue that he was trying to sheep town sentiment but at that point the thread was still quite divided.

I was saying that he did this after he had tried to post a middle of the road opinion. Then 2 or 3 others came in shooting down gonzaw's plan and he all of a sudden becomes much firmer in his stance (its like a bandwagon opinion instead of a bandwagon vote)


+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:49 PaqMan wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Paq he's talking about if there are more than 3 CLAIMS. If there are more than three CLAIMS then there's guaranteed to be a liar in the bunch, which is what he's saying.

Now go be a good lad and vote for gonzaw.


I'm not convinced that he made a scum slip. When he said "our" he could have been referring to whoever agreed with his points. I want to see what Gonzaw has to say about your accusation.

Interestingly filmsy opinion again, to me this just feels like he has more information than I do

Paqman's comment is reasonable.
VE's vote is dependent on a particular interpretation of the use of the word "our". Nobody should be convinced by it!Not being convinced is reasonable. Wanting to see how a player reacts to an accusation before judging them is reasonable
I am wondering how mattchew ended up "feeling" like this comment in any way indicated that Paqman had more information than him.


I got that feeling because its context can be read that he is basically telling VE that he is wrong, but doesn't want blantantly tell him that.



Also, I never commented on the vig plans cause I don't care about blues, as I have said a lot in coaching, they are a nice to have not a need to have. What a town needs to have is scum hunting and clear townies, this will support our blues more than any amount of direction.

I don't think Gonzaw's plan is scummy, however I don't agree with scum being forced into acting the way he thinks they will. His entire plan, I feel, revolves around vigs getting their shots right, which will be hard enough in this game.

I am null on VE, I am hoping that whatever he is doing will become more evident as the day goes on, cause right now he just looks like he is tunneling a little.

Layabout just mentioned all the lurkers, I have already said I'm down with a BM lynch (a little less now that Paqman said that too).
I would also be willing to lynch anyone else on that lynch that doesn't come out to play



There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 17:33 GMT
#302
EBWOP (aka lol FAIL)
On April 22 2012 02:31 Mattchew wrote:
I find it funny that paqman decides to attack me for lurking when I posted that I was going to sleep. Then votes me because I made a case against him? That makes sense, vote the guy thats actively looking for scum then accuse him of shit he isn't doing!

also gonzaw this is noted
Show nested quote +
We were discussing Paqman's behaviour, and Matt's suspicious behaviour too (for instance).

Why is paqman's only behaviour and mine suspicious? Do you find me to actually be more suspicious than paqman?


layabout what exactly about the marvel case do you like? also;
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 23:32 layabout wrote:
The Paqman case is forced as all hells.

+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 12:01 PaqMan wrote:
But I do agree with you VE. Giving scum any more info puts them in an even greater advantage over us. A mass vig claim would be the same as handing them a hit list.
some of gonzaw's points however are pretty valid (no late-game chaos with vig claiming before lynch, etc etc).

Either way, I can't see a vig following either one of y'alls policies.
He claims, town lynches him and nothing is gained.
He claims, chance of mafia taking him out or keeps him alive, either way there's chaos.

I suggest that our vigilante (if we have one) doesn't claim at all. If he's about to be lynched then he needs to defend himself as a normal townie because claiming vig is going to create a shitstorm for us, which gives scum the upper hand.
If he's going to use his kp one someone, he doesn't need to claim before or after the kill. It's going to create too much confusion and WIFOM and finger-pointing and shit.

So I think that vigilantes should not make any claims this game.


I know how much we love the 3rd and 4th person to jump on an opinion and now that he knows people will agree with him, he can be firm in his assertion

Because people are giving opinions there will inevitably be people who give opinions that other already have. Paqman was the 2nd to say that vigilantes should not claim + Show Spoiler +
(after VE, johnny also seems to support the idea but didn't take this stance Sentinel doesn't count because he didn't read the OP and his opinion cannot have had much grounding).
But how is that scummy? You might argue that he was trying to sheep town sentiment but at that point the thread was still quite divided.

I was saying that he did this after he had tried to post a middle of the road opinion. Then 2 or 3 others came in shooting down gonzaw's plan and he all of a sudden becomes much firmer in his stance (its like a bandwagon opinion instead of a bandwagon vote)


+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 11:49 PaqMan wrote:
On April 21 2012 11:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Paq he's talking about if there are more than 3 CLAIMS. If there are more than three CLAIMS then there's guaranteed to be a liar in the bunch, which is what he's saying.

Now go be a good lad and vote for gonzaw.


I'm not convinced that he made a scum slip. When he said "our" he could have been referring to whoever agreed with his points. I want to see what Gonzaw has to say about your accusation.

Interestingly filmsy opinion again, to me this just feels like he has more information than I do

Paqman's comment is reasonable.
VE's vote is dependent on a particular interpretation of the use of the word "our". Nobody should be convinced by it!Not being convinced is reasonable. Wanting to see how a player reacts to an accusation before judging them is reasonable
I am wondering how mattchew ended up "feeling" like this comment in any way indicated that Paqman had more information than him.


I got that feeling because its context can be read that he is basically telling VE that he is wrong, but doesn't want blantantly tell him that.



Also, I never commented on the vig plans cause I don't care about blues, as I have said a lot in coaching, they are a nice to have not a need to have. What a town needs to have is scum hunting and clear townies, this will support our blues more than any amount of direction.

I don't think Gonzaw's plan is scummy, however I don't agree with scum being forced into acting the way he thinks they will. His entire plan, I feel, revolves around vigs getting their shots right, which will be hard enough in this game.

I am null on VE, I am hoping that whatever he is doing will become more evident as the day goes on, cause right now he just looks like he is tunneling a little.

Layabout just mentioned all the lurkers, I have already said I'm down with a BM lynch (a little less now that Paqman said that too).
I would also be willing to lynch anyone else on that lynch that doesn't come out to play



There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 17:34 GMT
#303
going to basketball be back in like 2 hours
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
April 21 2012 19:35 GMT
#330
On April 22 2012 04:02 St.Daniel wrote:
It's so fucking hard to keep up with everything when you are at a camp with a crappy internet connection XD
I've read everything and I can't conclude anything with a confident, but I do have some ideas based on my observation so far. I'll post again as soon as I put some of pieces together.

And there is no need to be hostile at each this early in game, because thst's EXACTLY what they (scum) want. As long as we keep expressing ideas without trying to bite each other's head off. Remember, keep it simple and clear. <3 TL.

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