EPTI'm a cop you idiot mafia
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COP CLAIM. Now that we have doc protection on night 0, cop should claim and doc should heal him. Why do I think this is a great idea: Pros: 1. We get a confirmed town or a counterclaim. 1. a. We got a confirmed town, which makes it easier for us to scumhunt. 1. b. We get a 1 for 1 trade with scum. Which isn't as great is pretty great considering there are only 2 scums in this game. 2. Scum will be shooting in to the 4 townies leftover (Doc must protect cop after claim obviously). They will then have a 1/4=25% chance to hit one of our important blue players, instead of a 2/5=40% chance of hitting one of our blue players. 3. As long as cop is alive we get a new confirmed town for every day or a scum. Cop should post his checks as vanilla town=town. Scum= scum. Doc= Checked doc will not reveal. On day one this narrows the field to either 2 confirmed town and 4 remaining players giving us a 50% chance to lynch scum (which should increase by reasoning). Or it gives us the first scum to lynch. Cons. 1. Scum knows our Cop (obv). 2. Scum can lynch into any other town at night, securing guaranteed kill knowing doc is on cop. This also include picking of the ones Cop reveals as confirmed townies the night after they are reveales. 3. If Doc is killed or lynched we lose our Cop, and we will be in some real trouble. So guys any thoughts on this? I am for a Cop claim. | ||
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On April 14 2012 07:22 Dirkzor wrote: Hello  drunk and sleepy. Game filled up fast... Lets kill scum okay? good night! Drunk players are the best, they say it as it is. Any inputs on my cop claim? | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it. I am the cop. Lie, I didnt go to bed, I am the real cop! There you have it! | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:38 Blazinghand wrote: Well, that was quick. So you went to bed, but you were actually here watching the thread so you could counter claim the cop, huh. I know you're scum. I don't care what you think  We get the one for one trade on you and me, so no problem. I allready sent my night check in on you though BH, so it was a good move to claim cop, cause I would have figured you out by tomorrow. Now I change my check | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:43 Blazinghand wrote: All I need to do is find your scumbuddy and town wins this ez. I think I know what's going to happen here though: You're gonna claim you checked the guy who you're shooting N0. He'll wind up dead and you won't "give" any info to town, and if the medic saves him, you're just corroborating an already-confirmed town info. Hehe, you so funny | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:45 Blazinghand wrote: See, this is what doesn't make sense to me. This game clearly is about the cop claim. It's even called "I'm the cop you idiot." Let me explain MY thought process up until my claim: "whether or not I claim is important. I will discuss it with other players until it's clear what the optimal strategy is, then I will execute it immediately". I don't really understand what you were thinking, adding that big about claims to the discussion then bailin out hard. wouldn't a cop be more worried about the implications of his role? Wouldn't, a scum player, in fact, try to lay some groundwork for his claim but not want to? Which of us has played like he wants the town to win? Lol, I would never ever in a million years suggest a cop claim N0 as a scum, as the cop claim is what wins us the game. But if I am not to claim I will pretend to be normal vanilla who brought it up, and who leaves the thread when no one is interested in continuing discussing it. It is currently 02:48 here, I could not sit around and wait for the thread to heat up. So I typed it up in thread, sent in my nightactions about 40 mins later, played some dota, and waited to see if we got some nightpost. Then Bluelightz comes in right after me to post, I continue to lurk, you come in and type your stuff, and then Radfield. Why did I pick you for my first nightaction check - Well I consider Radfield and WBG the best players in the game. I assume scum kills one of them if both aren't scum, and I therefor chose the one I consider third, which is you. | ||
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On April 14 2012 09:59 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not sure I fully understand these two sentences. You wouldn't suggest an n0 cop claim as scum... but if you are not to claim, you will... pretend to be a VT, then leave the thread? Isn't that what you did? I'm honored <3 As a scum I wouldn't have posted what I did in my opening posts, thats all I am saying. I would advocate all the cons, but none of the pros if anyone were to bring it up. You guys can't know this for sure, but I am just saying. When no one started discussing it as soon as the game was up, I was thinking town will never agree upon a cop claim before I got to go to bed anyway. The best way for me is to just "leave" the thread and wait for a bit before I post my nightaction, so that not me leaving happends and then nightpost happends straight after. That would lead scum to understand I was scum, and town not to know. I will honor you even more if you manage to pull of a win on this BH, then I will tip my hat to you | ||
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Haha, just between me and you BH, this is pretty funny knowing one of us is lying his ass off | ||
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On April 14 2012 10:01 Bluelightz wrote: I dont fucking have an idea on what to say but my logic says this Tunkeg scum => Radfield Tunkeg scum team BH scum => BH & ??? Scum team. Well, there you have an input at least | ||
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Best start to a mafiagame ever (that I've been in). Good night, and good luck. Leaving for reals this time. | ||
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Also the key to reading our claims as both Radfield and Dirkzor have pointed out before me is how the claim is made. I make a post willing to discuss it before considering to claim (Post game note: I think a cop never should claim without the support of the town first in this kind of setup). I sort of give up claiming n0 because of not everyone beeing able to chip in and I "leave" the thread. I counterclaim once there is a claim. This way of playing do not indicate a townclaim or scumclaim. I would say if I as a scum were to post my first post (which I have stated before I wouldn't) I would probably follow it up in the same manner I did. What I think is to be focused on is BH's claim: He starts his posting with: On April 14 2012 08:46 Blazinghand wrote: That doesn't make his idea wrong though. Look, here's what's gonna happen D1: we'll be at lylo. Our cop needs to claim NOW, and get medic protection, and NOT call who he is checking. Scenario A (cop does not claim): We enter D1 and the mafia has possibly shot the cop. The cop can claim at this point and we have 2 confirmed town, or 1 confirmed town and 1 confirmed scum. If the cop got shot, though, we're flying blind. Scenario B (cop DOES claim): We enter D2 and the mafia cannot have shot the cop, because the medic protected him overnight. THE COP CANNOT HAVE BEEN SHOT, meaning we have 2 confirmed town, or 1 confirmed town and 1 confirmed scum. I think that even though it's gonna be LYLO tomorrow, the cop should claim, and the medic should just protect him. Saying Cop should claim period. If he was cop he should be his own logic just claim straight from the get go. But he doesn't meaning he wants to discuss it. If he wants to discuss it he should wait for more players to chip in but he doesn't, he doesn't even follow Radfields advice to wait before claiming: On April 14 2012 09:31 Blazinghand wrote: I agree strongly. In this setup the cop will basically HAVE to claim D1 since we'll be at lylo, and claiming N0 is superior to claiming D1. Guaranteeing the cop surviving the night is worth it. I am the cop. He then proceeds to say his logic is to DISCUSS whether or not he should cop claim, when in fact such discussion never happened: On April 14 2012 09:45 Blazinghand wrote: See, this is what doesn't make sense to me. This game clearly is about the cop claim. It's even called "I'm the cop you idiot." Let me explain MY thought process up until my claim: "whether or not I claim is important. I will discuss it with other players until it's clear what the optimal strategy is, then I will execute it immediately". I don't really understand what you were thinking, adding that big about claims to the discussion then bailin out hard. wouldn't a cop be more worried about the implications of his role? Wouldn't, a scum player, in fact, try to lay some groundwork for his claim but not want to? Which of us has played like he wants the town to win? I think this should tell you that his claim is the false one, and that it is damn sure more likely for scum to do a claim this way then a townie to do it this way. I am biased though because I know the truth here, so do BH and his scumbuddy, but I think this is the greatest indicator of who is scum and who is not. | ||
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