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@Solohan50 A lurker isn't someone who doesn't post at all, but rather someone who's posting is unnecessary, without any purpose. Those who fail to post or vote will be replaced by mods so don't worry about them. On April 15 2012 02:43 Nova_Terra wrote: Also i want to note that in regards to fluff posting, doing some of that is fine if its backed up by posts full of original analysis and opinion, as well as if people dont consider you to be active or "confirmed town" because of that posting. as well as if what? Rephrase the last part | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/usericons/Z3.gif) barrier yet but that's A ok as long as we keep scores, note checkpoints of development. I suggest everyone keeps a journal of some sort, aiming to capture the essence of our interaction, always driven by the curiosity to make out the motive behind every post in order to detect slips. Like Therapist said, and I can agree wholeheartedly, it's a good place to start improving.Also, a journal can keep you creative and occupied in times of a deserted thread, augmenting the gameplay imo. I'll start mine tomorrow and maybe at the end of the game, if it's not too shabby, I'll make it public. Good Night y'all. | ||
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On April 16 2012 04:27 Therapist. wrote: I don't have too many specific thoughts so far. I've just been thinking about the no-lynch stuff for the first time and have been happy to get peoples' opinions on it. Perhaps that input itself can be put to use later on, which is why I have said I would like to hear others' opinions on the matter. | ||
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I think it's about time for Nova to divulge what he finds so scummy concerning solohans' first post. We don't seem to be on the same wavelength because I have no idea what he's talking about; and scum is not going to make an objective analysis on himself for you, just because you say you think he's scum so there's no point in waiting for a reaction before you act. I-know-what-you-did-last-summer mindgames aren't likely to induce anything. | ||
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This suspicion on Crossfire is mainly coming from my gut but here are a couple of logical reasons to vote for him: 4 posts. 3 and 7/8 of which are about the no-lynch policy while the remaining 1/8 of the last post is sheeping Nova and calling solohan suspicious without any of you two providing reasons (Nova refused yet again to manifest - well at this point I want him to stall some more, and let's hear why Crossfire thinks solo is suspicious first) If you can add a single valid argument about solo being scummy I will drop my vote. Note that the fact that he supports a no-lynch isn't good enough, it's null imo. Writing GL HF + Show Spoiler + On April 15 2012 06:43 Crossfire99 wrote: I agree with lynching a lurker day 1, but only if there is really no info on scum. We should try to lynch a scum if at all possible. P.S. GL HF + Show Spoiler + Decent scum always get caught first. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg){kind=icon} Ok .. whatever. Let's pretend that didn't happen. User was banned for this post. | ||
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If I can stay, everyone should ignore this incident and consider the first FourFace post to be attributed to me. Thank You. | ||
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OMGUS reaction reaction to oneplus ..noted, yes that was bad. It pains me to say this but Nova has outlasted his use to town already. He did good with the voting (although that was symbolic, not sure if it had any palpable effect) and he has shown us an anti-example of how a leader should not act. I doubt we can expect him to make substance-packed, easy to follow cases but I would love to be positively surprised. As for oneplus, I felt like I should take him under my wing because English is evidently not his mother tongue. Nevertheless I expect him to try and make it easy for us to understand him, keep it simple. What I understood about his posts struck me as intelligent and insightful + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2012 18:34 oneplus wrote: I am not the one who say this. You are the one who said you and lazer accused me? I said you guys sound like a team. And yeah now you are protecting lazer. In what earth the most active player couldn't be scum? Well I could be wrong if you are town and the scum will be lurking around and clapping his hand to see 2 of us try to attack each others He also provoked Nova into a passive OMGUS reaction, which he also noted right away, so that's the last of him being labeled as noob town. Regarding Nova insisting on his ratio of being in the mafia faction as an attempt to look town, and your EBWOP post + Show Spoiler + On April 16 2012 20:16 Pure-SC2 wrote: EBWOP: I missed off why I thought this was relevant, but the first point I made above regarding Nova_Terra's posts prior to the game start seem to be positioned so that he can use it later to emphasis his townie position regardless of whether he rolls town or mafia in the game. The fact that he continues in the same way once the game has started is why I pointed this out (and not that I think he knew prior to the game starting that he was going to roll mafia). Regarding your scum constellation + Show Spoiler + - Nova_Terra's possible accomplices: Based on my filter review, the two most likely accomplices to Nova_Terra: Lazermonkey and Crossfire99. The case against these two isn't strong, but I would recommend reading through their filter and looking at the way they support Nova on Solohan50. Also, if you look at the interaction between Nova and Lazer against oneplus, it is also very defensive and nature and shows them supporting each other once again. I think this adds to my suspicion of Lazer who, other than his blind support of Nova's stance against Solohan, has seemed like a good contributing townie. I can't imagine the scumteam would be that obvious to spot, showing the same stance. I do have a couple of notes in my journal on Lazer though, which I'd like to divulge at this point, seeing that Daymor has commenced discussion on him. Excerpt from April 15 2012 11:00am CET - 12:00 CET entry. ------------------------- (...) I don't like Lazermonkey for posting like that at all (lack of argumentation, just says solohan might be scum or not and that we shall see. He's Swedish, also non-english, but I will not let this type of posting be the routine. 3 people voting to pressure someone to post something might be a little exaggerated but It also shows that BlueyD, Pure-SC2, Nova_Terra aren't likely to be THE scumteam. BlueyD gives a meta reason and the others sheep, will have to watch how far this statement goes when they either retract their vote or choose to stay on him. What's with the 24 hours wining .. it hasn't been 24 hours. The game started faster than expected so there's plenty of time The Day ends in approximatly 57.5 hours. (...) ------------------------- End of excerpt Excerpt from April 16 2012 April 16 23:20 - 0:10 ------------------------ (...) Lazermonkey is acting weird. What is this? If you truly are a townie you shouldn't be interested in defending yourself more than absolutly necesary. Sounds like he is uncomfortable defending himself once a FoS is on him. Will be interesting to see if he builds this affirmation. Also will he be more tolerant towards others or is this a double standard.staying to defensive will make you look scummy. so he likes boxing people in, this is still a lurker post.(...) Now he's acting even weirder considering the context of the pressure on solohan. + Show Spoiler + There is also a slight chance that the person who obtains votes will be a mafia, in which case some of his scum-bros might have to show their true colour in one or another way LOL + Show Spoiler + It would usually be a good idea for the scum to keep their votes as long as possible. + Show Spoiler + @Solohan - I'm not sure wether He is just noob or scum. Obviously we are all very new to the game so that could be an explanation for his play. But he hasn't contributed at all yet, only talking about the very hypothetical no lynch and agreeing with that lynching a lurker. Both thoose subjects had already been said at that point, more than once even. This is obviously a very suspicious move. We really need to see his response. It's about 17h to lynchtime No it's not. + Show Spoiler + On April 14 2012 22:33 risk.nuke wrote: The Day ends in approximatly 57.5 hours. On April 16 2012 05:11 Lazermonkey wrote: It's about 17h to lynchtime, unless I'm misstaken Probably scum probing for towns vigilance. (...) ------------------------ End of excerpt PS: It is natural to consider someone who posts a lot to be your leader. I have a general advice to all the players, don't do that. Being able to juggle with ideas in multiplayer is a more valid qualification than writing everything you can think of right away in order to satisfy your itchy fingers. + Show Spoiler + If you feel like the latter kind of person you should leave this thread neat and go typerace instead. typeracer | ||
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On April 16 2012 21:28 Lazermonkey wrote: And I never really made any huge claims on solohan, was just saying that he looked kinda scummy the way he lurked and added nothing at all. That is exactly the kind of behavior that we wish to condemn. | ||
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On April 16 2012 21:31 Lazermonkey wrote: What kind of behavior? the way he lurks or the way I think it's suspicous he lurks? You should only speak out against someone if you have gathered enough evidence to help town make an opinion about him. The fact that he lurked, repeated only what has been said is not enough to say he's scummy, and will not make a valid point in a supposed case against him. We are now checking to see if Nova and Crossfire have made the same mistake or if they truly have something worth mentioning. | ||
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Hopefully there will be some insight to breadcrumbing the reads all over again with his faction and role in mind. I wish you all a pleasant reading experience and good night. | ||
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.. chaotic, breeding baseless and silly argumentation like I didn't want to vote for that guy so I voted for the other guy Mid-nighttime is not the time to be making huge cases. Everyone prepare a statement and post it 2-3 minutes before daybreak to make sure mafia night action has been sent (hopefully the hosts don't mess it up). | ||
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