Newbie Mini Mafia VI

On March 30 2012 23:14 FourFace wrote:
BTW I want to make a couple of statements before we start in order for what I say to be irrelevant for your scumsearch later on.

I am going to play for fun, I don't care about learning the game or playing "badly". This doesn't imply I haven't read the rules, OP, guides, past games, player meta; or that I won't read the whole thread if it gets larger than 15 pages. Because I have and I will, and I'm counting on everyone to do likewise.

I am never going to insult you personally but I will most certainly tell you to your face if your posting style seems inefficient, total bullshit to me regardless of whether I think you're scum or not so I'm probably going to insult your role and style of play .. a lot, during this game. I can handle any sort of critique to my virtual online persona so I expect a little indifference from you too. I won't call your mom a whore or anything like that but even If I would, would you care? I'd be just another troll on the internets without any knowledge of your personal business, forget about it.

Once the game starts if you plan on condescending people by giving them newbie advice, and reciting principles on how to play and what they should look for, talk excessively about the concept of lurking and lynching lurkers and generally calling people noobish or crazy .. you are going to make this game less fun for me not to mention you'd just repeat what thousands have said before. Which means I'm going to have to compensate by writing crazy fluff, that you might not be interested in reading, just to mimic your lack of efficiency and usefulness to town. So if you're town don't do that. If you're scum, don't do it either because I'll quite possibly vote to lynch you for it in the absence of more concrete scumreads.

That's all I want to say .. my motivation, my self-imposed boundaries and what pisses me off the most. Oh and GL HF GG everyone

On March 31 2012 00:50 FourFace wrote:
Should've specified: "unasked-for" newbie advice. I really think it's annoying to hear stuff like "lurking is an extremely viable strategy for scum to use".. but it could be just me, and you do what you want.

I would like to try something out, yes. Have people compete in writing like they are having fun, just a regular group chat among TL-ers. Joke, make references to starcraft, memes, word play. My theory is that he who lacks the ability to convince the others that he's having fun will most likely be scum. Why? Because lurking is no fun.. and like you said, mafia don't have any problem with playing like that, town does. Mafia want the game to be boring and unreadable, town doesn't. Yes it's rather unconventional and not in the guides yet but let's do try it.

On March 31 2012 02:42 FourFace wrote:
I don't feel the need to argue with you, but please .. stop calling ideas stupid. It is the only way to emotionally stir up someone you don't know on the internet. You are really offending me, needlessly. You can say that you want my family to die of cancer (Alfio style) and it wouldn't be as offending because both of us know that you have no reason to hate my family. But if you call my idea stupid .. I don't know your level of intelligence, your mental achievements, your sense of humor or your motivations in life and I can't have someone i don't respect calling my ideas stupid. So pretty please with sugar on top ..remember to refrain from doing that and politely disagree next time.

Odds are 7 to 2 that I'm going to be townie so I'm not trying to trick you into playing badly so Mafia wins. I just think I gave it a little more thought than you have.
I see some problems like the thread turning boring and people going inactive because they're like: aww shit I have to read thorough this pile of accusations, lurker philosophy, poor or non-existent argumentations and whatnot just so I can find out if 30 hours later the guy i voted for gets lynched or if the guy who gets lynched is scum or not.

Personaly I'd like some salt and pepper so my curiosity gets me reading and get a couple of laughs as a reward. The discussion you seek will most likely never emerge, i dare you to prove me wrong. My guess is there's gonna be faceless people with no personality blindly accusing and insulting eachother. You might as well go into politics for that.

I have to read thorough this pile of accusations, lurker philosophy, poor or non-existent argumentations and whatnot just so I can find out if 30 hours later the guy i voted for gets lynched or if the guy who gets lynched is scum or not.

On March 31 2012 04:19 FourFace wrote:

Suggesting I shouldn't play = rude, insulting. Saying you aren't stupid your ideas are = rude, insulting, condescending. I don't get why you do it, I honestly don't.

On April 01 2012 03:24 FourFace wrote:
Guys this is gonna be pretty tough, I say we split the extra workload that comes from playing this particular setup but newbie mini games in general too (having next to no established meta, small number of players and less info from night actions because people don't get notified). I'd like each of us to monitor one particular aspect of everyone's behavior and report conclusions once a day/night.

What I can think of that fits the criteria of something worth monitoring:
-aggressiveness
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-the extent to which the arguments make sense and have purpose
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-impulsiveness (who seems to be acting emotionally biased)
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-conciseness (quality over quantity)
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-loco (who is crazy and under which circumstances does it show) I'd be just the right guy for this job
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-eloquence (for the David Foster Wallaces among us; also note typing and edit mistakes)
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-reaction time (especially to a FOS)
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-cred (who got it right, who didn't)
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On April 01 2012 03:30 FourFace wrote:
To find out who's the right guy for which job I'd like to ask a couple of questions first:

What do you prefer playing: town or scum and why?
What role would you like to be in this setup and why?
Think of a role that isn't in this setup and explain his powers
Think of a theme for a game (optional)

Thank you for your cooperation

On April 01 2012 03:51 Therapist. wrote:
Kohbee tries to act like he's confirmed two scum in his mind from the start. Why would he be so aggressive in calling people out as scum so early in the game if he were not trying to lead people away from himself and his partner? Hiropro may very well be scum, I have no idea. I know I'm not. I think more people need to call out Kohbee and see what he's really made of.

On April 01 2012 03:59 FourFace wrote:
@Kohbee This is why I only listed 8 jobs. Unconsciously I knew you would act like a total douche. That's ok .. you can be our LEADER

On April 02 2012 02:06 marvellosity wrote:


In case you hadn't noticed this is a team-game. You keeping things to yourself doesn't help the rest of us.

##Unvote: Solohan50
##Vote: Fourface

I'm with Muffins. I'm tired of you being a dick.

On April 02 2012 02:27 strongandbig wrote:


Pretty sure you can't vote for yourself, we went over that earlier.

As for reads on me, it should be pretty easy; I think that unless Kohbee explains his early accusation on hiropro, it's suspicious.

Personally I think that a case could definitely be made on fourface for being kind of domineering and trying to control the game, but I don't think he's scum yet. He was behaving exactly the same way before the game. Sure it's kind of obnoxious, but lynching someone for being obnoxious is exactly what mafia wants.

On April 02 2012 03:22 HiroPro wrote:
To the people voting FourFace, how does that make any sense. FourFace has been one of the few people to try to get something going. Mafia would never try to lead the way FourFace is. Mafia lurk and try to remain hidden.

Of omnomMuffins and marvellosity, omnomMuffins has contributed almost nothing, while marvellosity has identified a possible scumslip by strongandbig.



##Vote: omnomMuffins

On April 02 2012 04:58 Solohan50 wrote:
Before the game started, Kohbee was overflowing at the mouth. He was posting lengthy diatribes while going back and forth with FourFace. Once the game started, however, he started with an immediate vote with very little reasoning. Two paragraphs about whether memes and SC2 jokes should be included in a game of Mafia, following by a ##vote with almost no explanation? I find this change of style very suspicious. He has continued the trend of talking very little throughout this thread, as well as flip-flopping on the vote and causing us to lose one of our big tell moments. Because of this, I'm casting my vote for Kohbee.

##Vote: Kohbee