• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:48
CEST 15:48
KST 22:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners3Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW fans in southern Sweden, look here! 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08
Tourneys
[BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9616 users

Over powered Protoss??

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Knives707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:57:13
March 16 2012 07:46 GMT
#1


User was banned for this post.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ @ Ragers
ReMiiX
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States338 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 07:48:38
March 16 2012 07:47 GMT
#2
Dat banhammer.

Edit so I don't get warned. The game is pretty balanced, maybe P has a few strong allins early game and a really good production mechanic late game but that isn't necessarily OP. Soon the other races will switch up the metagame and P wont be as strong.
GaTech CSL fighting!
lubu42
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States314 Posts
March 16 2012 07:48 GMT
#3
Lol Protoss isn't overpowered. They're extremely hard to stop late game but thats obviously just when theyre strongest for reasons known to everyone. And I agree, Dat banhammer ;D
SlayerS_BoxeR <3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
March 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#4
I give this thread one minute
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
March 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#5
Well, if SC2 were realistic within the SC universe, Protoss would be totally overpowered. A colossus would melt a whole Zerg army in a couple seconds. The first Zealot would win every game and would kill 20 marines ezpz. etc. etc.

Since that's not the case, Protoss is fine .
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
March 16 2012 07:49 GMT
#6
On March 16 2012 16:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
I give this thread one minute

It's already been 3, liquid mods slacking tsk tsk lol
G4MR | I mod day9, djwheat and GLHF's stream
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
March 16 2012 07:52 GMT
#7
Hmm, at least before It closes I've seen that either A) TL doesn't hate protoss as much as I thought it did, or B) there's just a ton of Protoss players on TL.....
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
March 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#8
On March 16 2012 16:49 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Well, if SC2 were realistic within the SC universe, Protoss would be totally overpowered. A colossus would melt a whole Zerg army in a couple seconds. The first Zealot would win every game and would kill 20 marines ezpz. etc. etc.

Since that's not the case, Protoss is fine .

and the cost of said units would also be multiplied by 10.
armada[sb]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States432 Posts
March 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#9
Strong first post by OP.
#Hitpoint @ GameSurge (IDLE=BAN)
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
March 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#10
Blizzard Forum is what you are looking for.
Join the Liquipedia Zerg Project ! PM me for more information :).
Blade Fox
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States215 Posts
March 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#11
Is zerg overpowered!!!!?!?!

Poll: Zerg OP!?

Hell yes! I dont play that race! (31)
 
66%

No way! I play that race! (16)
 
34%

47 total votes

Your vote: Zerg OP!?

(Vote): Hell yes! I dont play that race!
(Vote): No way! I play that race!

Blame it on my A.D.D
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
March 16 2012 07:55 GMT
#12
On March 16 2012 16:53 armada[sb] wrote:
Strong first post by OP.


Since it's his first post I would cut him at least a little slack. He just needs to actually read the TL posting guidelines next time.
TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
March 16 2012 07:56 GMT
#13
Im T and P isn't OP. Zerg has good AoE in banes/infestor as well as the tools to siege and encroach the enemy base (broodlords), and do not really need a lategame buff for vP.

T's AoE is really only effective against zerg and terran units because of the high health and upgrade capacity of their gateway units (blink stalkers lol onto siege tanks, chargelots do too). Ghosts do well in the TvP matchup but they don't do any kind of permanent damage and require amazing control to keep the protoss from laying down lethal storms.

Terran vZ is already shown to be a matter of multi-task. Terran vP is proving to be a matter of control, although it would be amazing if somehow it became slightly more forgiving to lower league players (say, non korean pro players?) so that insta remaxes on gateway units aren't lethal.
Singularity is at hand...
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
March 16 2012 07:57 GMT
#14
tvp is the only matchup I can play. Funny, isn't it?
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
March 16 2012 07:58 GMT
#15
On March 16 2012 16:53 armada[sb] wrote:
Strong first post by OP.


Strong last one as well... maybe?
Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
March 16 2012 07:59 GMT
#16
I think the problem is that protoss *feels* op when you play against it, simply because of the playstyle that protossers are forced into.

Vs zerg, they really have to trick/surprise the zerg if they want to gain an early advantage. If you know what's coming it's reasonably easy to deflect even the most all-in of all-ins. However, If they surprise you with 2 hidden stargates or something it feels ridiculously hard to hold (because it is).

Vs Terran they're forced into this turtle deathball get all tech then roflstomp with aoe playstyle and that feels op from the T perspective.


Personally i think Protoss may be "balanced" in terms of win rate, but is broken in terms of gameplay/playstyle.
In ZvT if the T goes mech instead of bio/biomech you can do ok with ling/bane/muta for a bit. Likewise if the Z goes ling/roach/infestor the T is ok with tank/marine/medivac. However vs protoss if toss is going for one tech and you build the response to another you get basically owned.

Maybe this is how blizz wants P to feel, but imo its kinda shite
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-16 08:01:30
March 16 2012 07:59 GMT
#17
LoL...yeah. Almost as pointless and this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=295610
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
March 16 2012 07:59 GMT
#18
I feel sorry for op
Jurg Jurg Jurg
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
March 16 2012 08:01 GMT
#19
its hard to say if everything's balanced in a video game, but the balance team does their best job of keepin it balanced. that's why there are patches that tweeks certain aspects of the game. no one can be completely sure if everything is baalcned, just need to have faith in blizzard and play the game.
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
March 16 2012 08:02 GMT
#20
How to go about saying something witty about not contributing by even posting in these worthless threads without posting in it... hmmm. *gives up and posts*

PvZ is balanced because both races say it's their hardest matchup O.o
Currently editing items in the DotA 2 wiki. PM for questions/suggestions.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 221
Ryung 173
Rex 89
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7815
Sea 4582
firebathero 730
Mini 676
Horang2 466
BeSt 440
Soma 409
ggaemo 373
Light 372
actioN 368
[ Show more ]
Mong 348
Shuttle 325
Snow 224
Hyuk 182
Soulkey 166
Rush 151
Last 146
Zeus 122
hero 108
Sharp 95
Hyun 84
Barracks 55
Movie 52
Backho 47
ToSsGirL 46
sSak 46
scan(afreeca) 40
Free 31
zelot 23
Hm[arnc] 19
Sacsri 18
IntoTheRainbow 17
910 16
yabsab 16
Shine 15
sorry 14
GoRush 14
Terrorterran 13
Noble 13
soO 12
Icarus 4
Dota 2
Gorgc4550
qojqva1591
Dendi904
syndereN108
Counter-Strike
fl0m7269
olofmeister1712
shoxiejesuss986
zeus381
kRYSTAL_10
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King90
Other Games
singsing2198
Lowko1003
B2W.Neo729
crisheroes375
Beastyqt282
DeMusliM188
byalli187
XaKoH 129
Sick94
Hui .59
ArmadaUGS44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3861
• TFBlade560
Upcoming Events
Maestros of the Game
1h 12m
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
OSC
8h 42m
Replay Cast
10h 12m
OSC
23h 12m
Maestros of the Game
1d
Classic vs Maru
TBD vs Clem
Replay Cast
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
OSC
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.