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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 19 2012 19:07 GMT
#29
This should be fun. I'll get the popcorn :D
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:10 GMT
#99
Hi guys! I know it's been a long game so far and Zephirdd has made a lot of posts, but I'll do my best to catch up on the thread and dive right in.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:13 GMT
#101
So what's with all the tyrran votes? He doesn't seem to have posted anything anti-town so far.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:18 GMT
#104
On February 21 2012 07:15 redFF wrote:
VI policy lynch.


I don't like this sort of policy lynch. I don't like policy lynches in general-- they are/should be a last resort.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:21 GMT
#107
A last resort if we can't lynch scum. As in, This is the least optimal lynch.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:24 GMT
#109
How not to pressure: say you're pressuring
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:26 GMT
#112
Man as far as I'm concerned Tyrran can go sit on a carrot
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:27 GMT
#113
I'm just saying I don't like policy lynches
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#116
On February 21 2012 07:29 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:27 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm just saying I don't like policy lynches

why not

I'd rather explicitly try to lynch scum. Policy lynch is what you do if you can't make a good case D1. This happens fairly often but that doesn't mean it's a good thing.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:34 GMT
#121
On February 21 2012 07:33 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:29 redFF wrote:
On February 21 2012 07:27 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm just saying I don't like policy lynches

why not

I'd rather explicitly try to lynch scum. Policy lynch is what you do if you can't make a good case D1. This happens fairly often but that doesn't mean it's a good thing.

If you do not have a good case behind your vote today i expect you to go with a policy lynch.


I don't care about your expectations, but if ANYONE doesn't have a good case behind their vote (either for a policy lynch of a scum lynch) then they should be lynched posthaste.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#124
On February 21 2012 07:31 redFF wrote:
Give me one example of a policy lynch occuring on tl mafia ever.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.


I thought a policy lynch was when you lynch someone for a reason unrelated to "I think this person is scum" such as "I lynch anyone who lies" "I lynch anyone who makes fewer than 3 posts per in-game day" or "I think this guy is a moron so I lynch him every game I play with him"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 00:08 GMT
#166
On February 21 2012 09:05 chaoser wrote:
Also, your unvote of tyrran was pretty bad redFF and seemed extremely defensive. His post wasn't a good enough post to un-pressure vote. I would never get off him from my vote because his post was NOT good.


Yeah tyrran's post is utterly worthless. I'm pretty sure redFF is just trying to duck the spotlight. If your lynching based on policy, I don't see why you wouldn't still want to lynch him now? Policy should still apply, and it's not like Tyrran has been captain mchelpful since showing up in the thread.

I guess you're showing your colors

##Vote: redFF

come out and play
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 00:08 GMT
#168
EBWOP:

On February 21 2012 09:08 Blazinghand wrote:
##Vote: redFF
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 00:15 GMT
#170
I know, and I've voted in it. I'm just clarifying my voting here. I see no reason not to let everyone explicitly know whenever I change my vote.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 04:17 GMT
#259
On February 21 2012 13:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2012 12:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 12:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On February 21 2012 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Dear redFF and WBG
You both suck.
Sincerely,
Jackal58


I endorse this statement fully and from the bottom of my heart I thank you for letting me know I am not insane.

Why are we debating Policy lynches this early into the day? Seriously? This isn't a game with a player like 2010 bill murray who spams while being a dick, this isn't a game with a mod hating spammer named showtime. Instead we have for the most part a fairly solid crew devoid of spammy trolls. If you want to lynch someone for being bad, wait till they start being bad / scumlike, dont lynch them for shits and giggles.

Policy lynching people on retarded reasoning is worse than RNG votes for early discussion. Cut the nonsense out. Anyone who keeps talking about it from this post on be warned.

as a side note, VE since you are making moderate sense for the first time ever I have to give you props for impressing me two games in a row.


/salute

What are your thoughts on redFF BC? I'm almost convinced that he's just bad and not scum, but I'd like your thoughts before I act on it.


Honestly I think he may be suffering from something like a bat to the back of the head. That or a level of arrogance unseen since showtime. As it stands now short of recommending a terrible idea and being a retarded troll (which is a smiteworthy offense if he keeps it up) I see him more as someone to mock / ignore than take seriously. I know I am moderately guilty of this via my last few posts, however anyone continuing the trend of useless discussion / just trading insults with redff are most likely not playing with town interests in heart. There are a few players already guilty of this obviously.

I am currently more intrigued at the people who have let policy discussion run so damn rampant for even this short a duration of a game who (in my mind) should know better.


Come on guy....COME ON. You know what I'm asking. Do you think he's scum?

Also, I thought we were well beyond policy-discussion - I've put forth a scum-candidate and several people have joined the wagon (with little to no reasoning)....and some (and by some I mean WBG) have even gone on to defend him - citing meta resources that point to badTownRedFF. I mean, did you miss all this in reading? Why are you trying to color this all as policy discussion? What's up yo?


its what? 5 hours into the day? I would like to believe redff isn't this horrendous as scum to be caught this quickly. However that is wifom with someone of his experience. The only read I have on him as of now is Bad. Bad town or bad mafia. Hell, I think chaoser is also bad for defending posting town reads as a viable move at this stage in the game. It is only at all useful if people are posting clear scum reads along with clear town reads to make them fully accountable rather than "contributing" without doing much.

As for coloring it up to policy discussion, the main point you first raised (I will re-read to see what your entire argument is in exact detail so i stress the first point i saw) was his push on tyrran via policy of being bad. Factor in the mass level of general annoyance with him via his recent behaviour outside of game it is not outside the realms of possibility people are "policy" pushing him based on him being a total wad.


I'm mulling over this post.

The first thing I noticed about it is that it still doesn't answer my question. I mean, yeah. Okay. I get it. It's early in the game. But you don't even have a read on the guy? Regardless of the fact that he has almost 25% of the posts since the game started? I realize that's a gross exaggeration, but you see what I'm getting at - you should have more of a read on him than "bad" in my opinion.

The next thing I noticed is that you respond to my soft accusation of you coloring the discussion surrounding red as 'policy discussion' by boiling down the argument against him I've made to "his push on tyrran via policy is bad". I get that he's kinda a tool outside this thread, but my argument has to do with his actions/decisions in THIS thread. If anyone is voting for him on policy based on his behavior out-of-thread, that's their thing...but that's absolutely not why I'm voting for him, and that's absolutely not what the discussion for the last few pages has been about. Is it possible that people are voting him on policy? Sure I guess. Has that been the subject of discussion, like, ever? Not so much. This is why I said you "colored" the discussion recently as "policy discussion"...because by my estimation, we've been talking about lynching red because he's scum, and you come in and say "why are we still talking about policy-lynch?"

I mean, am I missing something here?


I would characterize that is BC's second attempt to dodge. I still don't liked redFF and i don't like the fact that he stopped carrying about his policy lynch. Why is that? I don't like Tyrran and I don't see how Tyrran's current set of posts makes him look town to redFF
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 04:28 GMT
#261
I think WBG is wrong and redFF has not been acting in a pro-town fashion. I think chaoser is picking a dumb fight. what do you think?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 05:26 GMT
#264
So your contention is "redFF is playing as bad town rather than scum", and although lynching bad town isn't the worst thing we could do, it's substantially preferable to lynch scum. This is a fair point. I will reread thread.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 17:43 GMT
#304
On February 22 2012 02:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 01:22 redFF wrote:
Give some reads tyyran.


second this one. I'm having troubles figuring you out Tyrran. Same about Dirkzor and risk.nuke


I think I have him figured out

##Vote: Tyrran
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#307
On February 22 2012 02:47 redFF wrote:
what made me look townier bh?


You're still scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
February 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#311
On February 22 2012 03:03 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 02:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 22 2012 01:22 redFF wrote:
Give some reads tyyran.


second this one. I'm having troubles figuring you out Tyrran. Same about Dirkzor and risk.nuke



I'm still at work rigth now, but to make it quick :

I dont have any scum read yet. I'm leaning town on several people. I'm wondering about syllo rigth now. He claims to know something we dont about the setup, but doenst share it. I'm not sure if this indicate town or scum.


This was very useful, thanks you. You are an important town asset.
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