EPTSurprisingly Normal Mini Mafia VII
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DoYouHas
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This is my second game. I played in Newbie Mini Mafia III. I also have been participating in the observer quicktopic for Normal Mini Mafia I if you want to look at that after that game ends. | ||
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On February 17 2012 10:09 MidnightGladius wrote: On the last occasion that the town faced unfavorable odds, Newbie Mini Mafia III, the lack of mafia power roles and relative abundance of innocent power roles helped to balance the setup, and I think that it will be the same here. Newbie Mini Mafia III was 4/9, that is very different from 4/11. I see the normal mafia to town ratio as being 1/4. As such I think we are pretty close and cannot speculate as to the number of roles or what roles are in the game. | ||
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FOS: EchelonTee | ||
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sl0osh, I dislike your attack on ET. Pointing out that both town and mafia can have motivation for the same action just looks to me like he is covering his bases so he can't be accused of not considering all the options later. And his calling you out was perfectly founded. You were an active poster in NMM3 who looked towards putting quality in the thread. If you suddenly went lurker on us it wouldn't be a stretch to think that you were organizing the mafia in their qt. | ||
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My current list of people I'm consdering voting for is sl0osh and MannerKiss sl0osh, he overreacted badly to a perfectly fine way of calling him out. Everything in his exchange was just an extended version of OMGUS (attacking the person who attacked you only because he attacked you). I think it is too easy to dismiss sl0osh's failure to see the reason behind ET's actions as his standard confirmation bias. Not acknowledging that ET's initial reference to him was purely to get him talking, not to frame him as mafia. I also thought that whole post about ET's tone was just a big pot of confirmation bias. MannerKiss, his fairly immediate response to me calling him out told me he was paying attention to the thread IE, actively lurking. The two explanations for which would be a new townie unsure of what to post, or a new scum unsure of what to post. The one-liner back at me and his lack of a response to me trying to call him out a second time make me feel it is more likely the latter. | ||
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On February 18 2012 04:19 DoYouHas wrote: sl0osh, he overreacted badly to a perfectly fine way of calling him out. Everything in his exchange was just an extended version of OMGUS (attacking the person who attacked you only because he attacked you). 1. I think it is too easy to dismiss sl0osh's failure to see the reason behind ET's actions as his standard confirmation bias. Not acknowledging that ET's initial reference to him was purely to get him talking, not to frame him as mafia. 2. I also thought that whole post about ET's tone was just a big pot of confirmation bias. 1. This refers to you failing to see the reasons behind ET's pressuring of you. Your post about ET's attitude towards yourself and gumshoe is not based in that failing. 2. THIS refers to that post about attitude. A post which I thought was clearly founded in confirmation bias. They were 2 opinions about 2 sections of your exchange with ET. You treating them both as if they referred to the same thing is wrong. (You = sl0osh) | ||
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On February 18 2012 05:44 gumshoe wrote: Definitley need to take the risk of a lurker lynch, there are three lurkers currently in the game, manner zell and one more I forget, theres a 75 percent chance one of them is mafia. A chance I think we need to take cause were one townie short. Could you explain this further? I don't follow the 75% chance. | ||
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On February 18 2012 06:46 slOosh wrote: If you want to lynch me based on meta just say so. The reason why I started to banter with EchelonTee was to create discussion and also see how he (one of the more experienced members) would respond. Mission accomplished. I stopped when I felt like when it was going out of hand. I am dropping my case on sl0osh for now for 2 reasons. 1. His explanation that I bolded fits and is reasonable. 2. Other cases have been presented that are stronger than mine and I want to free both sl0osh and myself up to be constructive in that area. | ||
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gumshoe has done a number of things that are not helping the town. The have been pointed out quite a few times so I won't go into depth about them now. Things like derailing, cluttering, unclear-ness, lying, a few inconsistencies. Yet in spite of this my intuition keeps pulling me towards a townie read for him. Here are a few of the things that are informing this stance: First and foremost is gumshoe's reckless and active posting style. I just don't see him as someone who is checking his posts with team members or even as someone who is going to a mafia QT and discussing his moves. He strikes me as playing by the seat of his pants, which is something I would not expect of scum on day1. This is supported by the little inconsistencies in his posting (I am thinking specifically about the one trackd00r pointed out) Secondly, gumshoe has both continued to defend himself about the poll while admitting that it makes him look scummy. I would expect a couple things from a scum put in a similar situation. Either he would play it off as a ploy and a joke in order to get people talking (which he did somewhat) and then try to put it behind him, or he would take some early shots at throwing suspicion onto someone else. He did not try to put it behind him, he even says that you would be crazy not to be suspicious of him for the poll. He took a long long time to start throwing actual suspicions around which I think is a long time to wait when you are scum and in the spotlight early. Like I said at the start, this is a stance based on intuition, not solid logic. So feel free to pick at it. I'll leave you with a bit of information that I've been keeping track of. People who have been defending/supporting gumshoe (soft or otherwise): + Show Spoiler + struck out names are for those who have switched DoYouHas, Alderan, Janaan, TKHawkins, People who have been attacking/suspicious of gumshoe: MidnightGladius, blae000, ET, Steveling(kinda), trackd00r, sl0osh, Dimmuklok, jaj22, | ||
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I dislike that no one directly addressed my defense of gumshoe, with the exception of ET. I wrote it to be picked at and debated, but you all seem content hammering away at each other. Making big cases and walls of text is nice, but spending all your time on them is going to blind you. I know from personal experience. My schedule is going to be very busy tomorrow. I will be unavailable starting at 4-3 hours before the deadline and remain so for something like 8-9 hours. | ||
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