• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:04
CEST 23:04
KST 06:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202560RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
What tournaments are world championships? #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings The StarCraft 2 GOAT - An in-depth analysis Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Dewalt's Show Matches in China
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 723 users

BC's Arkham City

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 17 18 19 Next All
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 24 2012 22:19 GMT
#32
Well I am not joining unless I know something more than masons being in this game >_>
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 31 2012 11:53 GMT
#70
/in
Game
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
January 31 2012 22:08 GMT
#84
On February 01 2012 02:49 JelloMonger wrote:
/in

zorkmid y u so funny
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 10:13 GMT
#238
I find it funny how Schworz wanted to create discussion by voting Kenpachi and he indeed did.
The mass claim is weak, just looking at things that Poison Ivy can be two roles (Medic and Vigilante) same deal with Harley Quinn and Two-Face can be either Vigilante or Detective. (AKA, what will You do when You have 2 Two-Faces or even 3?)
The interesting thing though is Scum Doc, besides Scum Vig and Scum RB(Talia al Ghul).
And to make it even funnier, there's DT-Vet too (Ra's Al Ghul). Killing Hugo(GF Medic or Jailkeeper?) removes Deadshot's(additional kp, the Vig I believe) power from the game.
So:
Mafia has 3KP and a lot of additional actions. They're like mini-town setup on their own. Where that puts us?
Mafia can easily fakeclaim, because they have the powers, easy as that.
About Schworz, I just ponder, is he IWANNABETHEHEROTOWN or he's like scumvoteasfastaspossible, pardon, but piling votes on him that fast does might be a little wrong (and that early in the day, sup dead set lynch when it's left 8-10 hours). On the other hand, we kind-of can't have Vigi kill him if he's scum.. Y'know, the Doc.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 13:40 GMT
#276
On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:

Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?

Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?

Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.

Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage

I did not mean to defend him, but just to slow down the voting so we dont have to deal with a lot of people keeping early vote for the rest of the day and do nothing. Yes, he can be scum. Yes, he should die if thats true. I think we should have schworz on the light for the entire day, maybe even further , but we cant set the lynch couple hours into the day, come on. The vigi advice is just clear thinking: if he is scum and his team can heal someone , why not save your scumbuddy? Also since when thinking is labeled as being wishy washy ? That is changing Your opinion frequently.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#278
Also why are we discussing 3rd party strategy, besides giving them advice and generating void discussion because not much can be analysed from that. They play for themselves and were here to win as whole: town. When I get home I will try to compose some lists, maybe even graphs.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#280
On February 06 2012 22:43 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?

Well, this is my first Maffia game, and I didn't think you were allowed to change your vote once cast, so I was just expressing support for the idea that Kenpachi claiming green immediately is the only suspicious thing we have to go on, but I didn't want to commit a vote to something like that in case something really scummy comes up later.

You can change votes freely.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 13:52 GMT
#283
Slardar isn't cute
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 14:15 GMT
#288
On February 06 2012 23:06 Jackal58 wrote:
Palmar - You scum this game?
Tell the truth.

Sup Jackal, Kenpachi scum this game? Bets on Opz being 3rd party?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 14:46 GMT
#296
On February 06 2012 23:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 22:47 Kurumi wrote:
Also why are we discussing 3rd party strategy, besides giving them advice and generating void discussion because not much can be analysed from that. They play for themselves and were here to win as whole: town. When I get home I will try to compose some lists, maybe even graphs.

Best way to get the day 1 discussion rolling besides elections/rvs/clues

You think you can't get any reads based off of peoples reactions to what has been discussed?

I said not much. If there was normal serial killer in play, would You discuss something about him besides his existence ?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 18:41 GMT
#326
1.Bill Murray - He's back. A lot of posts.
2. Kenpachi - Don't worry if You forget about him playing.
3. Visceraeyes - "Core" of TL mafia
4. Toadesstern - Still quite new
5. Hiro Protagonist - "Core" of TL mafia
6. Jayjay54 - New
7. Layabout - New
8. Cyber_cheese - Still quite new // "core"?
9. Doctor Helvetica - Uh, need advice from someone like Jackal
10. Jackal58 - lurky, aggressive and good.
11. Slardar - new
12. Tobberath - new
13. jaybrundage - new I guess?
14. Wherebugsgo - vocal aggressive and good
15. Tyran - new
16. Tunkeg - new
17. Kurumi - troll/"core" player many posts (myself, ask away)
18. Risk.nuke - Still quite new
19. Opz - ???
20. Kitaman27 - Quite good, been here for a while
21. ico - new
22. Evantrees - new
23. -_-qualis - new
24. forumite - "core"
25. Liquid`sheth - new, but played a lot of rl mafia
26. Radfield - if not dead N1 he's mafia. seriously though, amazing player
27. rgtheschworz - new
28. Palmar - sufferring from something I can't name, or maybe it's boredom because of role received?
29. Chaoser - was baller and not so baller since
30. Katina - new
31. Adam4167 - some say promising newbie

I'd like people to add things to this player list, I'll how do You call it? important people // known // good
should be discussed
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#327
1.Bill Murray - He's back. A lot of posts.
2. Kenpachi - Don't worry if You forget about him playing.
3. Visceraeyes - "Core" of TL mafia
4. Toadesstern - Still quite new
5. Hiro Protagonist - "Core" of TL mafia
6. Jayjay54 - New
7. Layabout - New
8. Cyber_cheese - Still quite new // "core"?
9. Doctor Helvetica - Uh, need advice from someone like Jackal
10. Jackal58 - lurky, aggressive and good.
11. Slardar - new
12. Tobberath - new
13. jaybrundage - new I guess?
14. Wherebugsgo - vocal aggressive and good
15. Tyran - new
16. Tunkeg - new
17. Kurumi - troll/"core" player many posts (myself, ask away)
18. Risk.nuke - Still quite new
19. Opz - ???
20. Kitaman27 - Quite good, been here for a while
21. ico - new
22. Evantrees - new
23. -_-qualis - new
24. forumite - "core"
25. Liquid`sheth - new, but played a lot of rl mafia
26. Radfield - if not dead N1 he's mafia. seriously though, amazing player
27. rgtheschworz - new
28. Palmar - sufferring from something I can't name, or maybe it's boredom because of role received?
29. Chaoser - was baller and not so baller since
30. Katina - new
31. Adam4167 - some say promising newbie

I'd like people to add things to this player list, I'll how do You call it? important people // known // good
should be discussed
Changes after re-reading the thread.
Schworz IS actually doing something. His actions make sense. And please, don't try to sell me that we haven't random voted before or voted on little evidence to get info. The most popular move was to pile a bit of votes on a lurker to get him out of the twilight zone. His actions make sense:
-Suspicion of Kenpachi
-Voting Kenpachi based on his suspicion (though badly called "random")
-Is against plan to "sacrifice" Joker
Like we totally should let Kenpachi go after he's getting some people both attacking and defending him. That's the discussion we want. People taking sides and choosing.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 19:31 GMT
#331
On February 07 2012 04:29 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 04:27 rgTheSchworz wrote:
On February 06 2012 18:41 Kenpachi wrote:
On February 06 2012 16:50 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Way to go claiming Joker. Don't do that. We lose one vig for .,.... nothing, cuz Batman is helping us regardless of the situation. And his task isn't to shoot scum, it's to shoot 1 particular scum. He won't risk giving off info for the sake of helping town, he's 3rd party after all and only cares for his win. It's likely he'll DT ppl till he finds Hugo.And he can't hint at being batman at all.

Anyone who claims being town or any blue D1 should be considered for a lynch.It's stupid,useless,and full of WIFOM-Helps scum a ton.

For the lack of a proper Random Voting Stage, I vote Kenpachi.

Considering the current situation, it's justified and if it goes through, we'll have info at least. There's no mayoral elections so setup chat and strategies shouldn't make scum stick out too much in the thread. This, instead will.

I feel Day 1 someone always gets lynched for beingcarelessandthat someone is almost always a townie.So, it doesn't do any harm at all to ramp the pressure now instead of later in the day when we will be hard-pressed for time and are likely to make hasty decisions.

This post is an atrocity.

RANDOM VOTING STAGE?
REALLY? fucking dumb. Its detrimental to blow any KP you get for mere information.[

Fun Fact: Town loses when i get lynched. (100% of the time)

Oh and im not hinting anytihng. i shouldn't give a vibe when i claim townie. Ive claimed townie when i was Mafia, Veteran, Vigilante, Doctor and etc.

From my standpoint, i have no opinion on Sheth, however im now deadset on this fool
.


Ooh, this is what I was looking for. OMGUS+Saying that he claiming town doesn't mean anything.
Then why do you claim town? To look interesting?
I'm not yet advocating blowing any lynches not KP, cuz KP are scum's property right?Very minor scumslip here.
You get all jittery and angry when I vote you.
FoS : Kenpachi
Also
##Unvote
Guess it was random after all, contrary to what some believe.
RVS over.
I'll look into ppl's responses to my posts and analyze them.Point was and still is to get ppl off setup talking.
Posting analysis as I go. May double or triple post

have fun going through all of his posts.
maybe you should read through some of his old games and then come back and apologise for wasting our time.

All Your posts are utter garbage.
Do I need to motivate You with a vote to help Town?
Oh wait, maybe You don't want to help us?
Why are You defending Kenpachi?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 20:12 GMT
#336
On February 07 2012 04:56 Jackal58 wrote:
Good job Kurumi.
You've successfully identified two trolls a noob and a cowboy. Now what?

We wait for more people to come in, probably.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 20:16 GMT
#337
On February 07 2012 04:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 21:45 Adam4167 wrote:
All this setup piffle is useless and counterproductive. Both sides can post filler about the setup. Let power roles make their own judgement calls, let the night actions unfold as they do, and spend your time doing something that will actually lead to scum kills, like prodding people or reading filters. In the spirit of that:

Kurumi, you soft-defend Schworz twice in a single post, also indicate that vigi's should avoid him and the rest of your post is basic setup waffle. I don't remember you being this wishy-washy in TL50 either, with statements like 'I find it funny that...' and 'I just ponder', you sure come off that way now. What are you playing at?

Tobberoth, you say you're considering a vote on Kenpachi, yet you want to wait until 'discussion comes up later in the day'. This comes off as quite passive and almost like you're waiting for a bandwagon to pickup speed before you seal the deal. Why not just vote him now if you find him suspicious, as you claim, then move it later as more information presents itself?

Ico, policy lynches are retarded... just no.

Jaybrundage, I know you haven't even posted yet, but we've never been the same team. Don't see why this game would be any different. Have my vote!

##Vote: jaybrundage



Yay a vote of my very own :D

Alright lets get down to business.

It's Business, It's Business time.
You know when i get down to my socks its Business time.
Thats why there called Busness socks.


First off Kenpachi's claim so to speak is irrelevant and should be ignored.

Batman will be doing DT checks. Getting the Joker to roleclaim is dumb and very anti town.

I find VE's OMGUS really odd. Cracking under pressure maybe?


Why should we leave Kenpachi's claim if it started the discussion?
You're trying to stop the discussion. This is not a pro-town move.
Maybe I could leave this, but You give no reasons and no alternative whatsoever besides pointing out a vote.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#345
On February 07 2012 05:28 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 05:17 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Before proceeding, I have encountered Kenpachi in Mafia L. He did not claim townie at the start.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13131254



Not that I give a shit but that is his MO.

So Jackal, what direction should we go now? I think Radfield needs some poking.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 20:59 GMT
#356
On February 07 2012 05:51 Palmar wrote:
rofl, so many people trolling.

layabout's picture is awesome. Lynching VisceraEyes is always a net gain for town.

Unless he's a Veteran Zombie.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 21:00 GMT
#357
Good Jackal. I shall observe and react too. Indeed, there's a lot more time to go.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#364
On February 07 2012 06:05 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 05:59 Palmar wrote:
So if you spam, can we hang radfield on meta?



Go away. I'm actively lurking

Are You dying N1 Radfield?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
February 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#367
On February 07 2012 06:12 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 06:11 Kurumi wrote:
On February 07 2012 06:05 Radfield wrote:
On February 07 2012 05:59 Palmar wrote:
So if you spam, can we hang radfield on meta?



Go away. I'm actively lurking

Are You dying N1 Radfield?


Are You a betting man Kurumi?

Well, given Your short history every game some time ago..
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
1 2 3 4 5 17 18 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 164
JuggernautJason153
StarCraft: Brood War
Larva 595
TY 181
Aegong 27
Dota 2
capcasts211
League of Legends
Grubby4156
Counter-Strike
Fnx 646
Stewie2K571
taco 242
flusha236
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King43
Chillindude14
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu651
Other Games
tarik_tv8920
summit1g5878
gofns3346
FrodaN2444
Hui .254
Trikslyr59
Sick46
PPMD34
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 43
• poizon28 20
• LUISG 17
• musti20045 16
• Adnapsc2 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 30
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22474
League of Legends
• Doublelift3732
Other Games
• imaqtpie1194
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
12h 56m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
16h 56m
CSO Cup
18h 56m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
20h 56m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 11h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 16h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 20h
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.