Pick Your Power Interesting!

On October 10 2011 12:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
COMMUNISM!
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=272941

On October 12 2011 02:53 GMarshal wrote:

Everyone gets to *pick* a power, assuming you don't overlap with anyone higher on the list, so everyone who picks an unique power winds up with a power. If you overlap with someone higher in the draft order you are out of luck and end up being vanilla.

Read the op *very* carefully. this is one of the most complex/fun setups around, but you need to understand the rules.

On October 12 2011 12:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

I thought about this, but what do you think is the possibility of mafia picking traditionally pro-town roles like DTs and Cops in order to hunt for the other scum teams?

I feel we're going to have to be very careful of attributing pro-towness to role, and avoiding the "confirmed town" mentality for DTs, even if they deliver a red to us. It will be more like they aren't part of that mafia family, more than that they become likely town.

That said, they'd still be useful, because they aren't going to hide red checks on the enemy families, and they're forced to confirm town, or lie about their own members, neither of which helps them in the long run.

So, I think a list of good town roles will be ok, so long as people are careful not to fall into the trap of role = alignment.

We should also try to take roles that are good in mafia or town hands, if possible.

On October 13 2011 03:46 chaoser wrote:


Mafia would shoot into the top of the list anyway?

On October 13 2011 07:13 Radfield wrote:
Hmm, I'm really not sure at this point if it makes sense to allocate the top picks or not. My thought is in a perfect world(where everyone follows the plan) it will likely work out great.

However, worse case scenario is that some of the top picks vocally follow the plan, and some vocally do not. This gives us half a plan, which is actually pretty bad for us. The more slots we allocate, the higher the chance of this happening.

With this in mind, we should probably only allocate 3 slots, Inventor, Thief and Swapper. However, this leaves the assassin free to kill the inventor day 1, which is a problem. Hence the addition of the assassin into the mix.

I'm honestly not sure what the best play is. Every pyp game I have played so far the inventor has ended up known, and in town hands. But with 12 mafia players, the chances of them getting the #1 slot are quite high.

What about this:

#1 Inventor
#2 Assassin
#3 Thief
#4 Swapper
#5/6/7/8 all take whatever, but also randomize in a % chance to take one of the top roles. This means Mafia cannot take for granted the ability to let a role slip, and take a risk of losing an excellent role by getting greedy.

Jimbo's thief/swapper ideas can be put to use as well to help speedily confirm the top picks.

I'd like to talk this out with people tonight. If anyone is interested and is around in about an hour or so, lets chat on IRC/Skype/whatever and hash this out. I particularly want to discuss with people who disagree with the allocation, as hopefully we can find solutions.