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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 03 2011 21:06 GMT
#7
/in
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 04 2011 02:54 GMT
#72
Can I just be the other?

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 04 2011 04:09 GMT
#80
I assume the enemy is most likely some sort of cult. In the op it mentions

The goal of the party is to survive and escape, move through the haunted castle quickly and try to eliminate members of the party that may have turned to the dark side. There is a corrupting force at work that must be eliminated.

So possibly the game is starting night 0 so that whoever is leading the cult can determine who they want to recruit?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#126
Palmar I would like to join your cult. However I cannot work during any months that begin with a consonant due to religious beliefs. Please let me know if this is exceptable.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 04:54 GMT
#172
haha am I the only one who finds curu funny?

Anyway as for actual scum hunting. I still think most likely the scum team is some sort of cult and they used n0 to recruit. Most 11-12 man games have 2 scum so I would guess there is 1 cult leader and they recruited 1 person last night. So I ask myself who is most likely to have been recruited last night? If I were the cult leader I would A) recruit a good veteran and B) recruit someone if they had gotten any town cred. So looking at those factors I would have recruited Meapak. Meapak is a good player and is one of the most experienced players. Also Meapak responded to red's question with he had good intentions. I think all the townies know that in their initial pm it said that Your intentions are good.

Unless some more solid evidence comes up right now Meapak seems the most likely scum to me.

Vote: Meapak_Ziphh


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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 05:06 GMT
#174
Do you have anything more solid so far varp? It is easy to bash my idea while providing nothing yourself. So tell me where my logic is wrong and who is scummier so far?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 05:33 GMT
#177
Side note people way way over use wifom. Using logical deduction to come to a conclusion is not wifom. My case against meapak could be wrong but it is not wifom.

Do you think it is more likely for curu to troll at the start of a game as town or mafia? I certainly agree he is not helping town right now but I think in general mafia are going to be more hesitant to make people mad at them right away. If he continues it could be another story. If you do think he is scummy for this what do you think about palmar's fake cult?

So right now if I had to pick between curu's trolling, syllo's figuring out the puzzle too quickly and claiming it or my conclusion about who would be picked by a possible cult leader, I like my case against meapak the best.

Meapak I agree there are several other good candidates but you were the only one who fit the veteran criteria and had the extra town cred. I don't think we can know that everyone necessarily received the same pm with the good intentions on it but that confirmed you to everyone who did.

Also I am curious to hear what you think about there being a possible cult. Do you believe this is the most likely how the scum team was formed or do you favor another possibility?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 06:05 GMT
#180
That's fine meapak. I mainly feel a cult is most likely from the OP and then the fact that there was a night 0. I didn't have anything to do night 0, did any other townies? If no townies had things they could do n0 then there must have been a reason mafia needed it.

Anyway for varp's puzzle The fallen king of babylon and the morning star are both names for lucifer/satan right? So maybe it is a 6 letter puzzle where each answer represents a letter?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 13:35 GMT
#194
On August 05 2011 18:37 bumatlarge wrote:

I'm putting my vote on mig as of right now, because speculating on a set-up, that has not been backed up by anything, then accusing someone based off it is a waste of time. Either him or curu. I can understand voting redff as well, but I don't think his intent was bad

##Vote Mig


I was not speculating on the role set-up from nothing.

The goal of the party is to survive and escape, move through the haunted castle quickly and try to eliminate members of the party that may have turned to the dark side. There is a corrupting force at work that must be eliminated.


This combined with there being a n0 where no townies have claimed to have had to do anything to do makes it seem to me that recruiter is the most likely setup.

The part about meapak being the one selected is speculation but he makes the most logical sense to me. Regardless there is nothing wrong with speculating on the setup at the beginning of day 1.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 01:03 GMT
#257
Most of syllo's thoughts are similar to my own, however considering the amount of trolling and lack of activity in the town it isn't in our best interests to kill kita/meapak right now. So looking at the other potential veteran candidates Coag looks like the best option. He has almost no posts and gave 0 reasons for voting trotske, and more importantly he ignored trotske when he asked for the reason behind the vote.

#Unvote Meapak

#Vote Coagulation
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 03:08 GMT
#264
On August 06 2011 11:21 Coagulation wrote:

if you say so.

I voted trotske cause of the stupid breadcrumbs he was oblivious about. I dont see anyone scummier. I noticed alot of people ignored the question tho and Its probably a good idea to keep an eye on them also.


So why didn't you post that reason at the time of your vote? And trotske has done plenty of suspicious things since then. Last page he said red was the scummiest person yet voted curu. Every time someone asks troske his opinion he lists a different person he is suspicious of. But instead of bringing any of these points up you lurk not posting then only show up once someone votes for you. If you actually thought trotske was still the scummiest you could have made a case to actual push him for a lynch but you chose not to.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 19:47 GMT
#282
On August 06 2011 23:44 syllogism wrote:
Mig, I'm curious to hear what you think about Palmar's play so far


I think it is scummy. N0 palmar was one of the most active players, all his activity was centered around his joke cult but at least he was posting frequently. Once day starts palmar basically stops posting anything longer than 1 line. If you filter palmar's posts you will see even now almost half his posts were made n0. Normally you would think he would be more active once the game actually started not less. If we are dealing with a n0 recruiter a sudden shift in activity level could be very telling.

Then if you look at his soft attacks on me/redff early on they feel un-palmar like. He gives almost no reasons behind them and puts no pressure on either of us. He has done virtually no scum hunting this game other than soft attacks and now responding to amber.

Finally his defense against amber is weak. He says he hasn't been active because he is out of town, I am not saying that is necessarily scummy but we can only use what information we have in game so this doesn't tell us anything. And he says that amber's attack on him is wishy washy which is definitely a stretch.

I still think Coag is suspicious for disappearing and not making any attempts to build a case against trotske. But after thinking on it more I think Palmar is the most likely to be scum.

##Unvote Coagulation

##Vote Palmar


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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 20:06 GMT
#286
On August 07 2011 05:02 Coagulation wrote:
You dont fucking know me curu. YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY FOO


Coag if you thought trotske was scummy why not actually make any case against him? You ignored my last post mentioning this.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 21:21 GMT
#303
Only 40 minutes left. All the votes should be consolidated between amber/palmar/coag. It will be too easy for the mafia to swing the lynch otherwise. And random votes on trotske/myself/redff aren't going to do any good anyway.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 21:29 GMT
#309
Amber's inital reason for voting palmar was super shady. I like his 2nd post against palmar tho. And meta wise the 2nd post against palmar was better than any of his posts he made in AA as scum. I also don't think they are Amber/palmar are both mafia bussing each other. So since I also think palmar is shady I am more inclined to think amber is town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#311
Amber has 3 votes, Palmar 2, Coag 2.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 06 2011 22:03 GMT
#343
both votes are passed the deadline lol.

I am pretty sure amber was already lynched.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 07 2011 15:52 GMT
#387
On August 07 2011 18:16 syllogism wrote:
I'm quite suspicious of Mig. Before the game started he seemed quite interested in the setup, especially the puzzles, but now he has been fairly inactive and his late palmar vote and the lack of thread presence after that doesn't look like townie Mig.


Kill Mig!

You know if I had kept my vote on Coag he would have had 3 votes first and he would have died instead of Amber. I switched to Palmar because I thought he was more likely to be scum.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 07 2011 16:01 GMT
#390
On August 08 2011 00:54 redFF wrote:
Mig do you have any reads?


Coag/Bum

I think Bum is probably the scummiest considering his poor reasoning for voting me before combined with he was the 2nd one to follow kita in trying to last minute vote switch to curu. Coag is also likely to be scum, his day 1 play was scummy combined with there must be a reason mafia didn't put votes onto him to try and save amber.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 07 2011 16:17 GMT
#392
On August 08 2011 00:59 syllogism wrote:

You right, that does alleviate some of my concerns, though perhaps you thought I would switch with you. If Amber was a recruiter, who do you think he would have recruited on n0? I can't really make much sense of the voting patterns unless the other scum was someone who wasn't around for the lynch.


If Coag is scum then Kita/Bum would both be possible. If coag is not scum there is a chance you could have been recruited.

The other possible scenario is, maybe he did recruit from the townies but didn't have a choice and it was random or pick 1 random 1, or we are wrong with what selection criteria amber used to decide who to recruit.

Overall Coag/Bum seems the most plausible scenario to me.
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