I will be in #loonybin on IRC and I will be pming most people. Everyone should hang out in the town's IRC whenever they are free. Townies should be pming people and talking on irc as much as possible. It is much easier for mafia to slip up and reveal themselves than it is for a townie to give away any vital information. So don't be afraid to be active and talk to people.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 01 2011 21:51 GMT

#120

I agree with san's plan. The main benefits of the double lynch are 1) extra information right away. 2) everyone can claim to a confirmed townie so that townie can organize the blues for n1.

And forcing all the blues to claim to the day vig puts the mafia in a shitty situation. Either A) they can not claim at all to him and then he can direct the other vigs to just shoot into the much smaller pool of vanilla townies or B) they can risk trying to claim blue roles and outing themselves because the # of roles is suspicious, for example if 3 vets claimed.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 01 2011 22:18 GMT

#128

As long as the confirmed townie doesn't share the blue role list with anyone I don't see what the problem is.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 01 2011 22:26 GMT

#131

No just tell the vigs who to hit, medics who to protect, dts who to check. All he has to do is make sure nobody is overlapping or shooting each other. As long as the day vig doesn't reveal anything else mafia isn't going to gain very much information from it.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 01 2011 22:46 GMT

#138

Right who cares if the mafia double stacks? That is great for us.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 14:52 GMT

#230

Varpulis looks the most scummy to me so far.

Initially in IRC he was extremely against sandroba's plan.

[14:31] 24 hours in? no no no no.
[14:32] i've got a solution: shoot bc AND sand
[14:32] 24h isnt enough but otherwise it's not awful
[14:32] wait until day 2 at the least.
[14:33] how often does the day 1 lynch hit scum? not so often. A day 1 double lynch is a HORRIBLE idea

However once he posts in the thread his opinion goes from strong to neutral and wishy washy. His posts contributed nothing and were extremely bland/common advice.

Along with that he completely misinterprets trotske's post here to cast a very weak Fos on him.

On August 02 2011 09:56 Varpulis wrote:

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Wait wait wait

You're promoting the a plan where vigs just shoot without claiming, and kill townies for information.

FoS.

So basically this game Varp has promised some pro town ideas while not actually contributing anything to the town. Has strong opinions in IRC when people aren't around but is afraid to take a strong stance in the thread. And instead of making a real case against anyone he casts a very weak suspicion on trotske with poor reasoning.

##Vote Varpulis

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 17:09 GMT

#233

On August 03 2011 01:41 JeeJee wrote:
pressure votes are stupid, where did this trend come from? you know when you say "yeah this is a pressure vote", that's pretty much equivalent to "idk who to vote so i'm voting you, but i'm not actually suspicious of you because all you need to do is say something and i'll remove my vote from you".
nobody can seriously feel threatened from a pressure vote, so there's no 'pressure' it's just a throwaway vote

JeeJee you are correct on this point but what exactly does pointing it out contribute? You have 2 posts and both of them while correct are bland and useless. You commented on pressure votes and neglected to comment on whether you actually thought varp was scummy or not.

Who do you think is scum? What do you think about the 2 leading candidates varp/red?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 17:43 GMT

#236

Varp every post you make screams wishy washy to me. Where is the confident Varpulis I have played with in the past? Every opinion you give you list the pros and cons and then you end up taking a pretty neutral stance. I haven't seen you have a strong opinion of anything yet.

If you had to vote for someone right now who would it be for and why? Do you find anyone besides red scummy?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 18:19 GMT

#239

On a side note I find it strange when people say they aren't suspicious of anyone, I am not sure if it makes you scummy or lazy town. Mafia is a game where everyone is guilty until proven innocent. 3 pages in and I can find reasons to suspect half the town.

So even with all your experience JeeJee you can't find anyone who stands out as scummy so far? Really?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 19:53 GMT

#259

I have a pretty simple defense. People should actually read my posts. Where have I backed down after putting pressure on people? What mafia objectives have I pushed? Look at the questions I asked varp and JeeJee. Was I trying to slander them or cast suspicion on them to look like I was fake contributing? Or was I asking legitimate questions that the town should be asking.

The town has almost no activity and I am actively trying to get people to post in IRC. What a scummy thing for me to do! I have pmd half the people in town asking them for their opinions. And I have no problem with giving my opinions on people. No one has to force me to contribute.

So just ask yourself if my play is helping the town or helping mafia. If you think I am helping mafia feel free to lynch me.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 19:54 GMT

#263

On August 03 2011 04:49 Lucidity wrote:

Mig's going crazy at people for not providing great posts on IRC, yet he's not doing what he's hounding others to do? Scum often employ such strategies. What's the dealio, yo?

I have more posts than almost anyone in the thread lol? Including writing the most coherent case against Varp. Find someone who has made a stronger case than that in this thread.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 02 2011 19:56 GMT

#264

On August 03 2011 04:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

youre asking everyone to contribute but you aren't contributing anything except bad arguments in irc

Feel free to find someone who has contributed more than I have in the thread.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

August 03 2011 16:49 GMT

#389

I think Varp is still the best lynch candidate. Varp is on summer vacation right now so he doesn't have school and because of this he told us he was going to be very active. Instead once the bandwagon was started on him he pretty much disappeared. Varp in my experience seems the type who is willing to fight hard about his innocence. In mafia XXXIX townies not defending themselves pretty much cost us the game. Post game here is his comment on that subject.

On May 30 2011 12:37 Varpulis wrote:

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QFFT.

Why is there an extra F? because it stands for Quoted For Fucking Truth.

If it's early game and it's bad evidence, let it slide if nobody paid attention to it. If you're the leading lynch, especially if you're blue, try to convince everybody of that. Argue incessantly. Do what kita did, pretty much. he played town better than elm/ABO did.

So it just seems out of character for Varp to disappear like this instead of fighting to survive if he were innocent.