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CjrNinja
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 Assuming this will start asap? Or are we waiting for a few backups to sign up? | ||
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CjrNinja
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Determining what setup we have will only help mafia fish for blue roles. if there are any, then mafia will act accordinly. What if there are no rockblockers? And mafia claims roleblock? Then we're completely n the wrong mindset. Town shouldn't be relying on any blue roles to win the game for them. We know that there are three mafia, our goal is to identity them, not whether or not there are blue roles in play. Blues should be acting indepentently. So no, do not roleclaim please. Someone explain how knowing tthe setup helps town? Cause it seems to me like it doesn't. Sorry about the bad formatting, my phone sucks. | ||
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CjrNinja
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On June 18 2011 08:43 Drazerk wrote: Working out the Game type helps blues but not the town while reds already have a 50/50 guess on the type and if they work out there is for example a medic in play they know the game type and can use it against us. Blues also have a 50/50 chance of guessing the setup too. All this discussion will serve is helping scum go bluehunting. And don't forget that scum can very easily lie and claim blue anyway. | ||
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CjrNinja
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On June 19 2011 02:37 supersoft wrote: i'll vote for treadmill for putting up such an aweful plan for our DTs. i'll be back in about 24 hours. until then i'll spend my time on the german Autobahn ;-) Bad plan =/= scum. After re-reading the last few pages I doubt that Treadmill had a scum agenda. The whole reason he made that first post was due to the fact he thought that mafia had 2 KP, in which case claiming asap to instantly cut scum down to 1 KP wouldn't be such a bad idea. Drazerk and Lord Vatti have been gathering the most attention at the moment, so I'm wondering why you put a vote on Treadmill? He's trying to contribute ideas and get the discussion moving, which is more than most people in the thread so far. You state your reason in about 10 words, then tell us you won't be around for 24 hours. Why? To give you justification for not responding to any pressure that's put on you or your decision to vote treadmill? ##vote: supersoft. Let's see if you are back within 24 hours. | ||
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CjrNinja
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So... we're wasting our day one lynch on a modkill, losing a townie night one, then spending the next day lynching the guy most people had been voting for day one? That's 2 wasted lynches... | ||
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CjrNinja
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Scum will join the Lord Vatti bandwagon, regardless of his alignment (If Lord Vatti is scum, then remaining mafia can pull a Munk-E and bus their scumbuddy by agreeing to your plan, once it becomes apparent that he will be modkilled). If scum are on this voting list, it gets town nowhere closer to knowing who is red by day 2, essentially making that day's lynch as 'random' as Day 1's lynch. You should be voting for scum, you said yourself that Drazerk was your current FoS. Of course it's going to be an extremely weak FoS, unless a scum really fucks up and scumslips on day 1, you'll be hard pressed to have a solid FoS, but we need to start somewhere. What I'm trying to say is that the only thing I see lynching an inactive does is stall the game for town by another day, which will give mafia the advantage of a few free townkills. In order to get a hold on this game, we need to take a stance and lynch the scummiest person. | ||
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CjrNinja
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Gtrsrs' personality change from a fearless tunneling townie to a passive, uncommitted scum is not unnoticed by me. Gtrsrs: If you think Drazerk is the scummiest so far, then fucking vote for him. There is no 100% certainty on day 1. By lynching a modkill, the day 2 certainty for lynching a scum will be no closer to 100% then it is today. ##Unvote: supersoft ##Vote: gtrsrs | ||
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CjrNinja
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You also got your facts wrong: Gtrsrs did NOT get people to bandwagon aprudds. After everyone trashed his idea of voting for Lord Vatti, he tried to convince people to lynch Drazerk, as he was suspecting him to start with. Just saw that the final day one votecount said gtrsrs voted for aprudds when he had actually revoted drazerk. It should be edited so that people referencing it are given a correct votelist. Also, apologies to gtrsrs for voting you. Had I been awake and reading your medic claim at 4:55am when you posted it, as well as your other posts, I would have changed my vote. Ok, with that out of the way: My vote tonight will be for Xedat. Allow me to place these 4 posts next to each other: On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote: It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself. I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him. To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore. I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is. ##unvote: Drazerk ##vote: gtrsrs On June 20 2011 05:46 Xedat wrote: ##unvote gtrsrs ##vote: appruds I think he has defended himself enough and the tunneling by Drazerk and appruds is a bit too crazy. On June 20 2011 05:51 Xedat wrote: I don't know what to do anymore. I don't think gtrsrs is mafia by now, why do oyu think Drazerk is more scummy than appruds gtrsrs? On June 21 2011 16:45 Xedat wrote: I still think gtrsrs is scum. And me attacking you is not being wishy washy gtrsrs. ##vote: gtrsrs Look at the first post! He doesn't make any accusations towards gtr, he types up a shitty paragraph 'defending' drazerk (which has already been pulled apart) then votes him, without a reason, without any indications that he thinks gtr is scum. He's bandwagoning, under the pretense that his drazerk 'defense' is reasonable grounds to justify his votechange. Look at the second post! Now that the bandwagon is changing to aprudds, and he doesn't want to get caught on a votelist where he lynches a blue, it looks like it is time to jump onto that one! "The tunneling by Drazerk and aprudds is a little too crazy." It's not even a reason or an accusation that aprudds is scum, just an observation. He's bandwagoning again. Look at the third post! You never thought Gtr was scummy in the first place. At all. You Look at the last post! Now look at his first three posts. Now look at what I just said^^. Now look at the last post again. I'll say it again: Xedat has joined both the gtrsrs and aprudds bandwagons, made no accusations against either of them until the next day! Find the common word in the previous 4 paragraphs. (Hint: it's bandwagoning). What do scum do to get someone lynched? They bandwagon. We need to lynch mafia today. I can say with certainty that Xedat is the scum we need to get town back on the way to winning. ##Vote: Xedat | ||
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However, there is still hope! Now that Pyo has claimed, we can figure out who the mafia are with good old process of elimination. Pyo and Gtrsrs are blue. Freeloader got checked by Pyo was told green. Alderan is telling the truth about his roleblock, and I'm the final vanilla townie! Pyo Gtrsrs Freeloader Alderan CjrNinja Which leaves three people. Supersoft Treadmill Drazerk This is assuming both Pyo and gtrsrs are telling the truth. If not, then i gg lol. | ||
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Pyo is telling the truth. Pyo Freeloader Myself Treadmill Supersoft gtrsrs lied about medic Alderan lied about being roleblocked. drazerk How does that look to you? | ||
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CjrNinja
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##vote: Alderan | ||
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CjrNinja
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And, in regards to the 'slight relationship' I had with treadmill on day one (i'm assuming you meant the part where I voted you), at that time I was entertaining the notion that Treadmill was detective, asking for advice. As I recall, you never did end up explaining your rationale towards voting treadmill, apart from calling him useless. His plan for the DT was based on the fact that he thought Mafia had 2 KP. Do you actually have anything to suggest that I am scum? Apart from my inactivity, because if not, your vote is random and in a lylo situation such as this, it's going to cost town the game. | ||
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CjrNinja
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##vote: supersoft Drazerk, take your vote off me. Scum only need one townie to swing the vote in their favour, you arn't doing town any favours by voting for me. | ||
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Remaining alignments: Treadmill, Cjrninja, Drazerk. Supersoft, freeloader625 Called it. | ||
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On June 28 2011 08:33 Drazerk wrote: Well I got you out of lurking, Everyone seems to be busing freeloader as well why don't we take him out today giving us tomorrow to deal with Cjr / Soft ? Freeloader or Supersoft, I'll vote for either of them. I'm convinced you and treadmill are town. | ||
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