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Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
May 18 2011 00:57 GMT
#1
Hey all,

Mostly lurker here...

I came to TL from SC2 (as did many people) and am interested in getting into watching Pro BW. Where do I start?

Thanks all.
savior & jaedong
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
May 18 2011 01:00 GMT
#2
Watch with many TLers tonight, there will be a stream listed under the calender
http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2011/05/#event_4799
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 02:34:03
May 18 2011 01:00 GMT
#3
http://www.teamliquid.net/vods/
all the bw vods can be found there. Also on the calendar are match dates/times, and people stream them live.
Oh man almost forgot to say watch gom vods. I'm assuming you're familiar with Tasteless, and he casts a lot of sc games on gomtv.net as well
http://www.gomtv.net/videos/index.gom?cate=9
I got really into sc because of gom. Even if you don't understand everything at first, it's more entertaining to have a funny commentator talking about the game then korean vods where you can start to feel overwhelmed and lost.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
May 18 2011 01:00 GMT
#4
subscribe to nevake on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/user/nevake?blend=1&ob=5
Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
May 18 2011 01:02 GMT
#5
Since your from Australia it'll be easy for you to watch the live streams. Broadcasts of SPL start either at 14:00 AEST or 19:00 AEST. I'm not too sure about OSL and MSL times but they are usually around the same time.

If you want to watch Vods nevake on youtube is a good start. Vods are uploaded fairly often with at most 1-2 day delay. If you want english commentary you might have to ask someone else. I dont know where to find them
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
May 18 2011 01:03 GMT
#6
Thanks for the friendly responses guys,

Also as a side question, does anyone have a link or something with say...the best matches/games? Or the best player's best games?

It's just I *hear* about the big names, Flash, Jaedong, Bisu etc etc but I've never seen any of their games.
savior & jaedong
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 01:06:57
May 18 2011 01:05 GMT
#7
On May 18 2011 10:03 Arterial wrote:
Thanks for the friendly responses guys,

Also as a side question, does anyone have a link or something with say...the best matches/games? Or the best player's best games?

It's just I *hear* about the big names, Flash, Jaedong, Bisu etc etc but I've never seen any of their games.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52045

That's the 'Recommended VODs of recent games' thread or you can search for Bisu vs JD, Flash vs JD etc. in nevake's channel.

Also don't forget The Small VOD Thread, an essential!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
May 18 2011 01:07 GMT
#8
On May 18 2011 10:05 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 10:03 Arterial wrote:
Thanks for the friendly responses guys,

Also as a side question, does anyone have a link or something with say...the best matches/games? Or the best player's best games?

It's just I *hear* about the big names, Flash, Jaedong, Bisu etc etc but I've never seen any of their games.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=52045

That's the 'Recommended VODs of recent games' thread or you can search for Bisu vs JD, Flash vs JD etc. in nevake's channel.


And then check out the Small VOD Thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875
for the games!

Thanks to all the uploaders~
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
May 18 2011 01:07 GMT
#9
Here is a great game. It's a good summary of the current Brood War scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtGrjhj_rgo&feature=player_embedded
KTY
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
May 18 2011 01:09 GMT
#10
I would say the best would be watching a live even with other people on IRC.

You can go to #teamliquidbw to discuss about the games, or just post in the Live Report threads (made in the BW Tourneys section).

If you feel you need more knowledge of the game to be able to spectate it, you can look in the gom site for old GOMTV vods which were casted in english by Tasteless + someone else.
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Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
May 18 2011 01:10 GMT
#11
When I started watching pro BW, I watched CholeraSC videos on youtube. He has a great voice, and his commentary is great for a beginner.
It is what it is...
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 18 2011 01:11 GMT
#12
I made a blog post specifically for this kind of thing:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=222682

Basically I just linked a bunch of really good vods and some other people linked some more really good vods.
May the BeSt man win.
Seide
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States831 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 01:15:17
May 18 2011 01:12 GMT
#13
Its really easy, I just started watching PL/MSL and following the LR threads to know what is going on. Now i'm getting to the point where I can actually contribute basic stuff to LR threads.

If you really want to know something specific about a game, if you post a question in the LR thread, people are very happy to answer it.

Just following the BW forum itself is good too, it makes it a lot more interesting watching when you know who the players are and some of their history.
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
May 18 2011 01:14 GMT
#14
I played a quite a lot of BW (singleplayer derp) and a bit of LANing with my mates, but before TL, i didnt even know about pro SCBW! =[

I've read a bit on the teams on liquipedia, i'd like to ask a few questions...

are there any teams that are dominating?

i may be totally wrong in this, but the big names seem to be all in different teams and such?

thanks again guys =)
savior & jaedong
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
May 18 2011 01:17 GMT
#15
All you have to do is wake up at an insane time in the morning, and start watching, you will get addicted immediately, and then you can just read the LR threads later while you are watching the game so it feels like you are watching it live all over again
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
May 18 2011 01:17 GMT
#16
This is my personal opinion but I would just say to watch as many games as you can.

Of course you can enjoy watching the epic games and understand at a basic level why some of the great games are "great" but if you have a deeper understanding (build orders, players' good&bad MUs, map MUs, push timings, unit counters, general history, etc.) you will be able to enjoy games so much more.

Watching BW vods with english commentary is prolly the best entrance. Husky, Day9, Cholera, Klazart are my suggestions.
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barkles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 01:23:23
May 18 2011 01:21 GMT
#17
Everyone else has offered very good suggestions for watching current, korean-commentated BW. However, if you want to watch slightly older BW games that have english commentary, I would suggest the following channels:

Moletrap (current Code A commentator, long time BW commentator):
http://www.youtube.com/moletrap

This commentator has been inactive for a while, but still a classic:
http://www.youtube.com/klazartsc

Someone else mentioned cholera, and there was a shared account for all of the above that had a bunch of dual casts:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VioleTAK

Also, Day9 Dailies started as BW analysis. Most of them are pretty heavy stuff ("Let's analyze the fuck out of this map for this matchup in the current metagame", etc), but the BGH 2v2v2v2 games that Day9 covered were quite funny indeed and would be a very casual, fun introduction to BW. I think those dailies were numbers 50 and 61. They're on the blip.tv archives


On May 18 2011 10:17 gostunv wrote:
Watching BW vods with english commentary is prolly the best entrance. Husky, Day9, Cholera, Klazart are my suggestions.


Husky deleted all of his BW commentaries I think
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 01:23:29
May 18 2011 01:23 GMT
#18
On May 18 2011 10:14 Arterial wrote:
I played a quite a lot of BW (singleplayer derp) and a bit of LANing with my mates, but before TL, i didnt even know about pro SCBW! =[

I've read a bit on the teams on liquipedia, i'd like to ask a few questions...

are there any teams that are dominating?

i may be totally wrong in this, but the big names seem to be all in different teams and such?

thanks again guys =)

SKT and KT Rolster are traditionally the two powerhouses, take a look at the Results & Standings thread in the BW Tourney section for details ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=162417)

Well Flash, Jaedong and Bisu are all on different teams, but pretty much every team has very respectable players in it.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
May 18 2011 01:24 GMT
#19
May I suggest you look at the maps before watching proleague? Just a general view so you know them, one of the harest things for me when im tryiing to catch up with current progaming is that I dont know any of the new maps. (Because I stopped playing BW)

Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
May 18 2011 01:27 GMT
#20
Also check out NukeTheStars he casts a lot of games casted in Korean, then recasts them in English but they aren't translations, it's his own commentary
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
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