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Last Edited: 2011-04-21 13:45:53
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Group Death and Despair by Moopie.



2011/22nd Season MSL Ro32 Group D
4/21/2011 Event Start: 20:00 KST



Set 1: [image loading][image loading][image loading]
(Z)Jaedong « La Mancha » (T)Sea

Set 2: [image loading][image loading][image loading]
(T)Flash « Monte Cristo » (P)Bisu

Winners Match « Circuit Breaker »
Losers Match « Circuit Breaker »
Final Match « Dante's Peak SE »

Lineups
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Set 1: (Z)Jaedong « La Mancha » (T)Sea

Set 2: (T)Flash « Monte Cristo » (P)Bisu

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(Z)Jaedong « Circuit Breaker » (T)Flash

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(T)Sea « Circuit Breaker » (P)Bisu

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(T)Flash « Dante's Peak SE » (P)Bisu

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Background
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Players
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(Z)Jaedong

» (Wiki)Jaedong is a three time OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. He is also known as the Tyrant and the Legend Killer because of the players he defeated in his early debuting days, amongst them sAviOr, Reach, NaDa, GoRush, July and iloveoov. Since then he has evolved into a true monster and has more or less been dominating the SC:BW scene with his rival Flash. He is known for his micro-management and innovative playstyle, whether it be popularizing 5 Hatch Hydra, 2 Hatch Muta or revolutionizing ZvZ.

Statistics

Jaedong vs Flash 19-21
Jaedong vs Bisu 5-8
Jaedong vs Sea 10-7

(T)Sea

» (Wiki)Sea is a player who has had alot of ups and downs. Sea is quite known for his somewhat shaky performance in starleagues, but nevertheless he has a lot of experience and while his achievements aren't as fancy as the others' he is definitely capable of making an upset. He holds the third highest TvZ ELO peak of currently active players.

Statistics

Sea vs Jaedong 7-10
Sea vs Flash 0-8
Sea vs Bisu 2-4

(T)Flash

» (Wiki)Flash is a three timer OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. The Ultimate Weapon is Flash. But the weapon was not always so ultimate, at his debut he was heavily disliked for his "cheesy" and "boring" playstyle which lacked variation. It wasn't until 2008, when he won his first starleague and defeated players like Jaedong and Bisu along the way that people opened their eyes for him. Flash has since become the most well-rounded player, combining strategic versatility, decision making, and mechanics. He is the player that makes the least mistakes of all and currently the Neo of SC:BW.

Statistics

Flash vs Jaedong 21-19
Flash vs Bisu 12-9
Flash vs Sea 8-0

(P)Bisu

»(Wiki)Bisu is a three timer MSL winner. His nickname is the Revolutionist, which he earned when he forever changed the PvZ matchup by defeating sAvior in the 2007 GOMTV MSL finals in a revolutionizing manner. He is known for his usage of Corsairs and Dark Templars that resulted in what was called the "Bisu build".

Statistics

Bisu vs Jaedong 8-5
Bisu vs Flash 9-12
Bisu vs Sea 4-2


Hype
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Bisu[shield]

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Introduction
(P)Bisu is Hope.

Hope for Protoss since the dark ages of the Terran reign. Hope that the dominion of (Z)sAviOr and his ilk over Protoss would cease . (P)Bisu is, after all, the Revolutionist. His is a bloodline not of the Khala and its brightest sons, Tassadar and Artanis ((P)Stork and (P)JangBi), but that of Zeratul and the legacy of the Void. His annihilation of the Maestro marked the beginning of the modern era, not just of PvZ but of Broodwar as a whole. He is the First Dragon.

Nevertheless, doubt lingers. The glory of his race has always been fleeting. Despite their vaunted psionic power, the Protoss are a dying race. They were not made to change themselves like the Zerg, to assimilate others for evolution. They were not made to reproduce and survive like the Terran, building ingenious craft for war.

But they were made to endure. And in the midst of darkness and despair, hope shines all the brighter.

Objectives

Ro4-Finals

As the only Golden Badge holder in this group, (P)Bisu is a perennial contender in the MSL. However, the past few years have been unkind to Kim Taek Yong. He has stood in the shadows while his Terran and Zerg peers have taken title after title. Even after monstrous surges in Proleague, he has not tasted individual league success since his Batoo OSL run. The time is ripe. (P)Bisu has revitalized the race, has begun conquering his demons, and is on the warpath. The people (Protoss) sing the song of angry men. It is time for another revolution.

Analysis

(P)Bisu is the current hottest progamer right now (in more ways than one). Having won the Winner's League title for his team by defeating (Z)Jaedong and (T)Flash successively, his momentum is as high as it ever will be. Moreover, this is his best chance to defeat (T)Flash in an individual league. Historically, his PvT series play has shown vulnerability. Specifically he crashed and burned against (T)Fantasy, (T)Iris, and (T)Mind. Since (T)Flash is the best PvTer currently - as well as of all time - he has reason to be worried. On the other hand, a single match against him will not eliminate (P)Bisu outright. (P)Bisu can afford to lose to (T)Flash the first game, and win against (T)Sea and (Z)Jaedong. What he cannot afford is to lose to (T)Flash and for (T)Flash to lose the winner's game, forcing him to win against Flash to stay in the MSL.

The first map is Monte Cristo, a new and untested PvT map. Look for (P)Bisu to play strategically hoping for a quick win. Some map features favor Carriers, and if (P)Bisu is honest with his personal assessment of Carrier micro, then he can still take it to late game and win. If he gets the win, then odds are high that he defeats his next opponent and moves on as the first seed. If he doesn't, he still has a good chance of advancing as long as (T)Flash wins his next game.

Not So-Historical Representative

(P)Bisu is Alexander the Great. Having used Phalanxes (DTs) and cavalry (Corsairs) to conquer most of the known world (PvZ), he is one of the greatest generals of history. He revolutionized ancient warfare, and put together one of the largest empires in history. His Hellenic education also made him an honourable warrior (all Protoss are honourable warriors). However, he died at an early age due to hubris (probably too much of a pretty boy). Must be wary of elephants (Tanks).


n.die.Jaedong

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Introduction

(Z)Jaedong is Death

The void left by (Z)sAviOr’s downfall led to a civil war. Various Zerg scrambled and clawed their way to the Overmind’s Throne. The resulting carnage saw one being emerge, and to this day he holds in thrall most of his brethren. That being was (Z)Jaedong, the living embodiment of (Z)July’s hyper-aggression and micromanagement, (Z)GGPlay’s late-game management, and the Maestro’s spine-chilling game sense. No Zerg has come close to his death-dealing play. No Zerg has forged such an iron will. The more you push (Z)Jaedong to the edge, the more he can overwhelm you with ee-han timing and insanely reckless all-ins.

The defilement of the Maestro’s legacy requires a cleansing. Thus, a Zerg must rise far above all Zerg before him and seize an immaculate crown. In doing so, this Zerg must exemplify its racial trait: violence. Who better to exhibit this than the Legend-Killer himself? The Tyrant lusts for blood once more. Only absolute victory can sate him. Let the world tremble and fear. Death returns.

Objectives

Finals

Having come so close to matching the Tornado Terran’s title count, (Z)Jaedong is probably the most determined progamer in the MSL. Last season, (T)Flash lost early, and it fell on (Z)Jaedong’s shoulders to chase history and the spot of the Greatest Of All Time. Unfortunately this burden proved too heavy. (Z)sAviOr’s descendant, (Z)Hydra, usurped the Zerg throne in a series that left Lee Jae Dong fans wondering whether time and superior Mutalisk micro - long his sole possession - had finally defeated their champion. His resilience is unquestionable. His desire is unmatched. Nothing short of a Golden Badge will suffice for the greatest Zerg of all time.

Analysis

No group could be worst for (Z)Jaedong.

His first matchup is his easiest. While the map is unfavorable, (Z)Jaedong himself has said that at the pinnacle of Broodwar, imbalance does not dictate the victory. The title of the strongest is taken by those whose skills surpass the imbalance of the maps (hear that, (P)Bisu?). This means that (T)Sea is in for a world of hurt.

All the same, the real threats come right after. Whether he wins or loses, (Z)Jaedong faces the two players who have stood against him toe-to-toe for years and won. (T)Flash needs no introduction. The two have faced each other more than 50 times (including non-standard leagues). (T)Flash is (Z)Jaedong’s eternal rival. When the time comes, their children will probably be the two best Starcraft 3 players in the world, continuing LeeSsang rok. Still, (T)Flash owns the lead, and has recently dominated (Z)Jaedong (in 3 straight finals no less). If you had to bet your life on anyone to defeat (Z)Jaedong in a single game or in series play, (T)Flash is the best option (as Rekrul found out the hard way).

(P)Bisu is the second best option. Imagine a matchup as lopsided as ZvP. Now imagine it flipped on its head. (P)Bisu is 70% LIFETIME against Zerg. The guy is crazy. Even worse for our Zerg hero is the fact that (P)Bisu has stomped (Z)Jaedong the past 2 out of 3 games they played (the loss coming from a Lurker build vs too few cannons and late observers). In fact since June 2009, (Z)Jaedong has only won once in six serious games against (P)Bisu. Moreover, (P)Bisu defeats (Z)Jaedong at his own game – multitask and micro. I am not the only (P)Bisu fan who squealed like a little girl when I watched him micro Zealots against Zerglings on Judgment Day, or even that sexy Corsair micro in a losing effort on Benzene. The Revolutionist was made to fight someone like the Tyrant.

Given this, (Z)Jaedong is like Han Solo: never tell him the odds. His play is sublime. He steps his game up to his peak when he needs to, and can innovate on the spot. I will never forget the TLFE Heir Apparent. (Z)Jaedong learned ZvP DURING A GAME. We also need to consider that he has created a matchup solution for ZvZ that no one can deconstruct or even hope to emulate ((Z)EffOrt was doing fine but I don’t hear people calling Mutalisks effortlisks). There is none more qualified than (Z)Jaedong to change the metagame for Zerg in modern Broodwar. For (P)Bisu and (T)Flash fans, there is one thing to say: Caveat Emptor.

Not So-Historical Representative

(Z)Jaedong is Genghis Kahn. The most fearsome conqueror of Europe and Asia, Temujin never balked when faced with steel-laden Knights (Tanks). One of the most brutal conquerors ever, he used prisoners of war to shield his own troops and massacred entire city populations for resisting him. Nothing was sacred to him but victory. The European princes ((T)Fantasy) and kings ((P)Stork) were fodder for his lightning fast Mongol Horse Archers (Mutalisks). Only time was great enough to defeat the Kahn.


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Introduction

(T)Flash is Destiny.

From the time of (T)BoxeR, Terrans have ruled the universe. The Emperor, The Monster Terran, and the Tornado Terran were the first three Bonjwas to have ever existed. As time decayed the Bonjwas' sovereignty, no new Terran appeared to claim his birthright. So began the dark ages.

It was written on the stars that in these darkest of hours, the Chosen One would be born. The perfect player, endowed with the greatest of the Bonjwas’ gifts. Yet the prophecy did not say he would arrive perfect. The sharpest steel required the hottest fire. And so it was that the Terran child (T)Flash came into the scene a cheeser, and ironically, lived under the Storm Zerg’s care. The world forsook him, deriding his “turtle” style and his personal failures. They said he was just a mechanical freak, doomed to the oblivion of mediocre Proleague Terrans. Still, he labored carrying those around him time and time again until his back and wrists would break. The early supernova was burning out.

And it was to become a black hole that would consume all creation. (T)Flash knew what no one else did. He knew, not because of his outstanding mind, but because of his great heart. Destiny was no trifling matter to be given him without sacrifice. Like matter, it was neither created nor destroyed. Destiny, that majestic triumph of the Terran lineage ((T)BoxeR, (T)iloveoov, and (T)NaDa) and its inherent ingenuity ((T)Midas and (T)XellOs), had to be earned.


Objectives

Finals

(T)Flash is the greatest player of our time. (T)Flash is going to become the greatest player of all time. All that he needs is that one, final title to shatter (T)NaDa’s record. Sure, (T)NaDa has other records, but the most prestigious is his Golden Mouse and Golden Badge combination. No other gamer has that. Not (T)iloveoov. Not (T)BoxeR. Not (Z)sAviOr. (T)Flash needs that Golden Badge. Fans may say that he doesn’t need that to be the GOAT, but it will validate his long years of hard work. It will justify his sweat and tears and bloody fingers. It will affirm his potential as the Ultimate Weapon.

Analysis

Lee Young Ho is as close to perfection as can be. He has no weakness.

Early game, he is the best bunker-rusher of all time along with (T)BoxeR. Bunker rushes require intense micro and the largest balls of all. Sure, 4 pool is riskier, but its purpose is two-fold: (1) to end the game early/get an advantage and (2) mess with your opponent’s mind. Losing a 4/5 pool will still accomplish one of the two. It's essentially a sacrifice with a sure reward in series play. Bunker rushes are tests of willpower. Failure will not necessarily defeat you but set you back, so it’s mostly a question of how committed you are to your strategy and how you will transition given success or failure. It’s even a very questionable move because in the face of greedy builds, the Terran still has the option to simply play for a timing attack which is much safer than a bunker rush. (T)Flash has memorized the handbook of bunker rushing and has even amended its provisions. His other cheeses are artistic masterpieces of micro and innovation, be they BBS or proxies.

Mid game, he is the best timing-pusher of all time. He reads his opponent very well with prescient scans and in-game analysis (worker counting, anyone?). He also has a very solid defensive style that negates all forms of midgame cheese. He gets early turrets to counteract Mutalisk aggression or Reaver harass. He positions his Tanks in graduated clumps so that they protect several areas and at the same time overlap to provide killing power. His Vultures are such a pain to deal with because he’s so good at timing a surround + mine to ensure that not all mines are shot down.

Late game, he is the most durable player. I think the most exemplary games of Flash have involved comebacks from the most massive deficits ((T)Flash v (T)Fantasy MSL game 1, (T)Flash v (T)firebathero Neo Medusa, (T)Flash v (T)Leta OSL, (T)Flash v (T)Mind Proleague 10-11, I could go on and on). He simply does not give up. In late-game battles, he manages to be incredibly cost efficient. At a time when most players are so drained physically and mentally, (T)Flash is so laser-focused he can still target-fire tank clumps and navigate his Dropships to destroy the most important tech buildings.

Overall, (T)Flash has unequalled game sense. He detects things from the smallest details. He understands when to play aggressively and when to play passively. I cannot stress this enough. This is why his anti-fans hate him for either turtling (because it looks like his opponent just keeps sending waves of units to crash against an immovable tank and turret line) or cheesing (because it looks like (T)Flash just walks in his opponent’s nat/expos and simply obliterates him in one fell swoop). This is a result of constant, instinctive thinking. It’s an oxymoron, to be sure, but (T)Flash’s genius is not rational. His mechanical talent can be learned, but his mental talent is the only one of its kind. Is his opponent gunning for an economic lead? Is he going for an all in? One by one, (T)Flash analyzes his opponent’s options and eliminates them one by one, forcing the other player to ride his cadence.

(T)Flash is favored in every single matchup in this group. It may be called the Group of Death, but realistically, (T)Flash can simply look at it as the Group of “Just another day in the Office”.

Not So-Historical Representative

(T)Flash is Napoleon Bonaparte. No one ever dreamed as loftily, nor influenced so many facets of human life – war, politics, law, science, literature, art and culture. From his military genius to his personal charisma; from his political savvy and arrogance; from his rise and fall, Napoleon was the most influential and decisive leader in history. Waterloo is history. (T)Flash the Bonjwa is the present. (T)Flash the GOAT is the future.


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Introduction

(T)Sea is Perseverance.

In all stories of fantasy, danger, and death there are always characters who are heroic without being heroes. In Le Morte d’Arthur, you have Sir Gawain, who will always be the lesser knight when compared with Launcelot, Tristram, or Lamerok. Portrayed as a hot-headed character of sorts who does stupid or sometimes evil things, Gawain was unfairly shown up every single time in the stories by other knights. In the Lord of the Rings, you have Boromir, who was a great warrior and a noble Captain of Gondor, and yet the movies demonize him into some kind of power hungry villain. In A Song of Ice and Fire, you have Sandor Clegane, a man of violence hated by all of Westeros.

All of this shows what the world wants (T)Sea to do: fall over and die. (T)Sea is that unchanging rock in the middle of the sea (heh) that serves no glamorous purpose. Right now he is being brushed aside in the mad dash to hype a (T)Flash (Z)Jaedong (P)Bisu Broodwar triumvirate. And that’s where he wants to be. The underdog is always fun to root for. His perseverance is the story of our lives. At the end of the day, Sir Gawain remained fiercely loyal to King Arthur to the very end. Boromir redeemed his honor. Sandor Clegane saved Sansa and Arya Stark.

After all, a rock (iceberg) in the middle of the sea sank the Titanic.

Objectives

Survive Group D – Ro8

(T)Sea is well-known to be a Proleague workhorse. The Terran ace of MBC since the beginning of time (no, (T)Light was an ace sniper – there’s a clear difference), (T)Sea has consistently put up win after win after win to help his team. This culminated in a Proleague championship, a Winner’s League silver, and zero individual acclaim. Off the top of my head I’m morally sure that he is statistically the best player never to have reached an individual league final. He is the gatekeepers’ gatekeeper.

This is why fate should not be so cruel to deny him a taste of success. In the MSL Group Selection, he was overheard hoping out loud not to be put in a group of death with the TaekBangLeeSsang. In a dark twist of fate that would make Roald Dahl smirk, that was exactly what happened. Now, Sea is a strong player. He’s a 60% player who excels in all match-ups. However he’s up against the great wall of Korea here, facing the best three players of all three races. Lady luck is out of magic. (T)Sea has to transcend everything he has ever been to make it out of this group alive.

Analysis

(T)Sea has a bad chance to win a single game, but Sea has also been dealt with the best of hands possible in this group.

First, his initial matchup against (Z)Jaedong is on a Terran-favored map. La Mancha is 64% TvZ. Also, his previous victory in the Korea OSL was on Zergliner (although his other recent win on Polaris Rhapsody was only due to (Z)Jaedong’s stubbornness in sticking to Mutas after dissecting (T)Sea’s base with amazing micro). It’s a hard fight, but (T)Sea himself said that Terran is a little imba once you get tanks. Look for a midgame mech transition or a Marine-Tank push against (Z)Jaedong in this game. Late-game is not an option after being destroyed by (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey with Defiler play.

Second, he might not have to play (T)Flash at all. That is his only sure loss (0-8 is such a great head-to-head hahaha). Since (T)Flash is still favored over a red-hot (P)Bisu in his current status as Bonjwa, (T)Sea can lose to (Z)Jaedong, win against (P)Bisu in the latter’s worst matchup, and have a rematch against (Z)Jaedong on Dante’s SE where he has a 100% winrate (in one game). Cross your fingers (T)Sea-fans.

Third, God exists. Somehow, some way, (T)Sea has GOT to break through his mental block vs the S-Class. All his patience and hard work will pay off. He might not be the most talented, but he has done so much for the Starcraft scene (and TL.net) due to his innate friendliness and likeability that he deserves nothing less than to escape from his Starleague curse. (T)Sea is like (T)Flash without that special spark. It’s time to stop wishing for luck and to rely on skill, strategy and instinct. All players can lose on any given day.

Not So-Historical Representative

(T)Sea is Scipio Africanus. The Roman Hannibal was an incredible military commander, defeating Hannibal Barca decisively and saving Rome from its Scourge. However, Hannibal was already severely weakened by war attrition. Furthermore, Scipio was unable to capitalize on his military success because he did not seize the moment, and was defeated and surpassed later on by Julius Caesar. (T)Sea must rewrite the history books to achieve what all men want, but few ever do.


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1) Advancing from this group, (T)Sea would become the unchallenged MBC Ace after Tyson previously stepped up. Though some consider him the Ace now for obvious reasons, he's been having a rough time, and an advancement in this group could give MBC a huge jump in momentum after previous losses, and a welcome restart to Sea's own long overdue title aspirations. He deserves one, and we know it.

2) (T)Flash finally has something to prove again. After the recent devastating loss in the Winners League Finals, this is the best group to re-assert his Godhood and rise upon the puny mortals once more. If he doesn't, it still by no means says he's bad, we'd just have a War in Heaven, a free for all, which could bring very unforeseen consequences.

3) (Z)Jaedong has had a rough patch in previous individual leagues, and his loss to Bisu in the WL finals after an almost all-kill must have hurt him and his fans, whereas he's been having extreme difficulty against Flash for a long time now. While still dominant over just "good" players, like Fantasy and Kal, Jaedong has tasted Godhood and fallen short of it recently. Winning this group could mean a new age of Tyranny, of renewed Zerg dominance, and prove all the naysayers wrong once and for all. And perhaps a little sidedish of revenge? That would be good too.

4) (P)Bisu is on top of the world right now. He won the title for SKT by defeating both Jaedong and Flash, having ushered in a new era of ZvP in the process and making poor mustaju cry Protoss users hopeful for a new Golden Age of Protoss. By winning this group, he'd make a convincing bid for Best Player in the World, and he could potentially be the first player to win 4 MSL-s. However, even then, two other of his nemesises might just wait around the corner, since Kal and Shine could very well advance from Group H. Winning this title would mean an unprecedented dominance for Bisu. Failure would send him to the Survivor tournament. Again. And Bisu fans have been suffering him in survivor tournaments for quite a while now, so he'll probably do his best to avoid such a fate if at all possible.


Bonus: Fun fact
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If (Z)Jaedong and (T)Flash were to advance from here, that would open up the possibility of them meeting up in against in the finals as the MSL reseeds the Ro8 according to KeSPA rankings. These two players (unless May brings major changes over there) just happen to be the highest seeds in the tournament with + Show Spoiler [Group F result] +
Fantasy being out.



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Polls
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Poll: Winner of Set 1: Jaedong vs Sea?

Jaedong (221)
 
84%

Sea (43)
 
16%

264 total votes

Your vote: Winner of Set 1: Jaedong vs Sea?

(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): Sea




Poll: Winner of Set 2: Flash vs Bisu?

Flash (172)
 
54%

Bisu (147)
 
46%

319 total votes

Your vote: Winner of Set 2: Flash vs Bisu?

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Bisu



Poll: Which two players will cheat D(eath) and advance to Ro16?

#1 Jaedong, #2 Flash (82)
 
21%

#1 Flash, #2 Jaedong (76)
 
20%

#1 Flash, #2 Bisu (72)
 
19%

#1 Jaedong, #2 Bisu (41)
 
11%

#1 Bisu, #2 Flash (39)
 
10%

#1 Bisu, #2 Jaedong (32)
 
8%

#1 Flash, #2 Sea (12)
 
3%

#1 Bisu, #2 Sea (10)
 
3%

#1 Jaedong, #2 Sea (7)
 
2%

#1 Sea, #2 Flash (5)
 
1%

#1 Sea, #2 Bisu (4)
 
1%

#1 Sea, #2 Jaedong (3)
 
1%

383 total votes

Your vote: Which two players will cheat D(eath) and advance to Ro16?

(Vote): #1 Jaedong, #2 Flash
(Vote): #1 Jaedong, #2 Bisu
(Vote): #1 Jaedong, #2 Sea
(Vote): #1 Flash, #2 Jaedong
(Vote): #1 Flash, #2 Bisu
(Vote): #1 Flash, #2 Sea
(Vote): #1 Bisu, #2 Jaedong
(Vote): #1 Bisu, #2 Flash
(Vote): #1 Bisu, #2 Sea
(Vote): #1 Sea, #2 Jaedong
(Vote): #1 Sea, #2 Bisu
(Vote): #1 Sea, #2 Flash




unbiased Predictions:
+ Show Spoiler +
Guys. It's time. Drop whatever you're doing, because this is group D, group Death. I'm pretty sure this is the toughest group in the history of BW, and will probably remain so until (Z)Hydra:s son wins an MSL and destroys yet another group stage to honour the memory of his father.

If this group doesn't get you excited, nothing will!

Jokes aside. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get into what we can look to expect (or not).

Set 1: (Z)Jaedong > (T)Sea:


Even though the map favours terran, (Z)Jaedong has been looking quite solid lately even though his score is 11-4 since Mars with the four losses consisting of two ZvZs, one against (P)Bisu and one against (T)Flash.

If we look at his ZvTs specifically he has won 4 games, most noticeable beating (T)Fantasy twice and losing once to (T)Flash.

(T)Sea definitely has the capability of pulling something unexpected as he is known to have a very good TvZ every once in a while and the map certainly allows it. But then again he is only the King of Proleague, and this is not the Proleague.


Set 2: (T)Flash > (P)Bisu:


Monte Cristo is a new map and therefore we have very little reliable information on whether it favours one race or not. I think this is going to come down to the preparation and how good their analysis of the map is.

Statistically (P)Bisu has in his last two games taken down both (T)Flash and (Z)Jaedong, proving there is absolutely nothing wrong with his current shape and while PvT is not his strongest matchup I expect him to give (T)Flash one hell of a game.

At the same time I reckon (T)Flash will be hungrier than ever for revenge due to the defeat against (P)Bisu in the WL finals.

This can definitely go either way, but expect one of the craziest TvP/PvT:s of this year when these seemingly almost unstoppable forces clash together.


Winners Match: (T)Flash > (Z)Jaedong:

Here we go again. This matchup should give even the manliest of men goosebumps. This is definitely the biggest rivalry of todays SC:BW. Since 2010 to now, these two crazy kids have fought eachother 21 times and the score is 13-8 in favour of (T)Flash.

Not only that, but they have met in the finals of OSL:s/MSL:s four times in the last TWO years. FOUR times ladies and gentlemen, that is more than 99% of the BW progamers ever get to participate in.

Honestly guys, even as (Z)Jaedong fanboy I don't know what to say here.

(T)Flash is just so superbly brilliant in this matchup lately that predicting anything that's not in his favour is unrealistic. It's like he is reading the very essence of SC:BW itself and translating it into near-perfect decision-making. That's how good his TvZ is. When at the top of his game, he understands TvZ to its fullest.

(Z)Jaedong will have to pull off something truly amazing if he wants to beat the best player in the world right now. Is (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey:s queens (note: see group F) the answer to ZvT or is (T)Flashs control with bio just too strong for that too be even viable? We'll just have to wait and see in this must-watch of a game!


Losers Match: (T)Sea < (P)Bisu:


If I were to bet my life on any of these predictions, it'd be this one.

As mentioned earlier, (P)Bisu is just looking very strong overall and while (T)Sea is known to pull off the occasional upset in pretty much any matchup I doubt he will do so in a match as important as this one simply because - beating (T)Flash convincingly equals crushing (T)Sea ruthlessly, whether it be by 'reebo', 'carriuga' or 'dragonu'.


Final Match: (Z)Jaedong > (P)Bisu


Dante's Peak SE is a map that looks quite zerg favoured on the paper but actually has few or no S-class games at all. Either way the statistics of 18-8 (69.2%) isn't easy to neglect and could mean that (P)Bisu is fighting an uphill battle right from the start.

The last time they met (P)Bisu completely shut down (Z)Jaedong by giving him no breathing time between the attacks and therefore allowing no offense.

If (P)Bisu is able to apply the same pressure this game he is in a very good position. But to do so he must take early control over the air battles and keep (Z)Jaedong on the defense while allowing himself to gain a slight but oh-so important upperhand to ride into victory.
The key here is definitely the early midgame and how that plays out. If the game ends up being a macro contest I think (Z)Jaedong will feel very comfortable.

It seems impossible to rationally pick one over the other so out of admitted bias I'll say (Z)Jaedong but this one can definitely also go either way, because lets not forget, we are looking at the two very best of their respective matchups.

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Jaedong cracks his knuckles just like he will crack his opponents.

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Flash is completely freaked out by the presence of Jaedong's biceps brachialis. "I didn't prepare for this strat!

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Bisu jumps in to save Flash, but ends up being zerged by a gazillion of fangirls.

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Sea facepalms: "-beep- you Hydra, why the -beep- did you do this?"

Edit: Rewritten.



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+ Show Spoiler [Individual sets] +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
(Z)Jaedong « La Mancha » (T)Sea

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
(T)Flash « Monte Cristo » (P)Bisu

+ Show Spoiler [Winners] +
(Z)Jaedong « Circuit Breaker » (T)Flash

►Jaedong advances 2:0

+ Show Spoiler [Losers] +
(T)Sea « Circuit Breaker » (P)Bisu

►Sea eliminated 0:2

+ Show Spoiler [Final] +
(T)Flash « Dante's Peak SE » (P)Bisu

►Flash advances 2:1
►Bisu eliminated 1:2

+ Show Spoiler [Overall] +
Set 1: (Z)Jaedong « La Mancha » (T)Sea

Set 2: (T)Flash « Monte Cristo » (P)Bisu

Winners: (Z)Jaedong « Circuit Breaker » (T)Flash

Losers: (T)Sea « Circuit Breaker » (P)Bisu

Final: (T)Flash « Dante's Peak SE » (P)Bisu

►Jaedong advances 2:0
►Flash advances 2:1
►Bisu eliminated 1:2
►Sea eliminated 0:2

+ Show Spoiler [MSL Ro16] +
+ Show Spoiler [Warning! Spoiler for all groups.] +

A1 vs E2: (Z)Hydra vs (P)Stork

A2 vs E1: (T)Light vs (T)Mind

B1 vs F2: (T)Leta vs (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey

B2 vs F1: (Z)Hyuk vs (Z)Calm

C1 vs G2: (Z)ZerO vs (Z)hero

C2 vs G1: (P)Horang2 vs (P)Grape

D1 vs H2: (Z)Jaedong vs (T)Reality

D2 vs H1: (T)Flash vs (T)Really

Explanation:
A1 = First placer in group A
B2 = Second placer in group B
etc.



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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 1?

Yes (52)
 
88%

No (7)
 
12%

59 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Poll: Would you recommend game 2?

Yes (43)
 
78%

No (12)
 
22%

55 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Game] +
Poll: Would you recommend Winners game?

Yes (65)
 
88%

No (9)
 
12%

74 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Winners game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Game] +
Poll: Would you recommend Losers game?

Yes (25)
 
68%

No (12)
 
32%

37 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Losers game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


+ Show Spoiler [Final] +
Poll: Would you recommend Final game?

Yes (47)
 
94%

No (3)
 
6%

50 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend Final game?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




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Big thanks to mustaju and Caladbolg for writing some actually worthy-of-this-group Hype and Moopie for the great banner.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:32:41
April 16 2011 19:52 GMT
#2
...

Well, why not.

I will represent the epitome and peak of Bisu fans everywhere and say Bisu will at least 2-1, grittingly losing to flash, then overcoming Jaedong (in losers) then Sea (in finals)
Muahaha, haters gon hate.

You know what, Bisu is going to 2-0


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Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
April 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#3
Is it time already?

Dunno if my heart is ready for this...
Jaedong and Baby
yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
April 16 2011 20:06 GMT
#4
Group D for Death
the absurd is sin without god
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:08:13
April 16 2011 20:07 GMT
#5
Hahahhaha this is the stupidest group in history. True definition of group of death.
Writerman what
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:10:52
April 16 2011 20:09 GMT
#6
Ow god, this is going to get ugly

Predictions:

Jaedong>(T)Sea
Flash>(P)Bisu
Jaedong>(T)Flash (FUCK Yeah)
Bisu>(T)Sea
Flash>>(P)Bisu

:> Lee Jaedong fighting!.
WriterXiao8~~
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-19 13:20:40
April 16 2011 20:24 GMT
#7
Thread up early so people can let the possibilities of the following scenarios to sink in. We wouldn't want to shock people into psychosomatic illness.

Two of these players will have to go. Which will it be?

1) Jaedong: three times OSL winner, two time MSL winner. Arguably the best zerg.
2) Flash: three times OSL winner, two time MSL winner. The best terran.
3) Bisu: three time MSL winner. One of the very two best protosses, if not the best.
4) Sea: A solid player in the Proleague but a shaky in starleagues. Though his TvZ has proven quite fierce at times.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:26:11
April 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#8
On April 17 2011 05:09 Kipsate wrote:
Ow god, this is going to get ugly

Predictions:

Jaedong>(T)Sea
Flash>(P)Bisu
Jaedong>(T)Flash (FUCK Yeah)
Bisu>(T)Sea
Flash>>(P)Bisu

:> Lee Jaedong fighting!.


YES!

On April 17 2011 05:24 dibbaN wrote:
Thread up early so people can let the possibilities of the following scenarios to sink in. We wouldn't want to shock people into psychosomatic illness.

Two of these players will have to go. Who will it be?

1) Jaedong: three times OSL winner, one time MSL winner. Arguably the best zerg.
2) Flash: three times OSL winner, two time MSL winner. The best terran.
3) Bisu: three time MSL winner. One of the very two best protosses, if not the best.
4) Sea: Simply a solid player. Though is solid enough in this group? Though his TvZ has proven quite fierce at times.


JD has 2 MSLs
Jaedong and Baby
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
April 16 2011 20:26 GMT
#9
On April 17 2011 05:07 Atrioc wrote:
Hahahhaha this is the stupidest group in history. True definition of group of death.

Who are you again?
Moderator。◕‿◕。
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:35:31
April 16 2011 20:28 GMT
#10
On April 17 2011 05:25 Yxes2211 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 17 2011 05:09 Kipsate wrote:
Ow god, this is going to get ugly

Predictions:

Jaedong>(T)Sea
Flash>(P)Bisu
Jaedong>(T)Flash (FUCK Yeah)
Bisu>(T)Sea
Flash>>(P)Bisu

:> Lee Jaedong fighting!.


YES!

On April 17 2011 05:24 dibbaN wrote:
Thread up early so people can let the possibilities of the following scenarios to sink in. We wouldn't want to shock people into psychosomatic illness.

Two of these players will have to go. Who will it be?

1) Jaedong: three times OSL winner, one time MSL winner. Arguably the best zerg.
2) Flash: three times OSL winner, two time MSL winner. The best terran.
3) Bisu: three time MSL winner. One of the very two best protosses, if not the best.
4) Sea: Simply a solid player. Though is solid enough in this group? Though his TvZ has proven quite fierce at times.


JD has 2 MSLs

Ah, you are very right. TL is a bit laggy so I couldn't check. Thanks for the correction.

Being the JD fanboy I am, I will cry if he loses in the group stages. But atleast I'll have Flash .
Then again what if both drops? That would be the saddest day in the entire history of humanity.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 16 2011 20:33 GMT
#11
haha, this group is so epic that its in the MSL intro
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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
April 16 2011 20:40 GMT
#12
On April 17 2011 05:26 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 05:07 Atrioc wrote:
Hahahhaha this is the stupidest group in history. True definition of group of death.

Who are you again?


Ouch.
Writerman what
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 16 2011 20:44 GMT
#13
I just noticed I have class during this.

You know what that means.

''gusy I am sick''.
WriterXiao8~~
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 16 2011 20:48 GMT
#14
No hype section on the OP? WTF is this
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 16 2011 20:50 GMT
#15
On April 17 2011 05:48 Hesmyrr wrote:
No hype section on the OP? WTF is this


Well, I'm sure there will be a tiny writeup to indulge in before this group

right?
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
April 16 2011 20:51 GMT
#16
Don't even know who to root for.... GO SEA!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:57:48
April 16 2011 20:57 GMT
#17
Probably the most epic MSL group to ever be played. I'll be doing my studying HYPEr fast so that I enjoy the games live.

Also - Go SEA!!!! The underdog will be victorious! I BELIEVE!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
April 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#18
I don't think it's a good idea to put in the polls before the games happen X-X
look at the polls already lol
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
April 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#19
On April 17 2011 05:58 XXGeneration wrote:
I don't think it's a good idea to put in the polls before the games happen X-X
look at the polls already lol

We already know the games are going to be worth seeing ;-)
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 16 2011 21:04 GMT
#20
while we're at it, someone make the all stars lr =(
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