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[GSL] Idra vs Acupuncture analysis (opening day)

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mrkent
Profile Joined January 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 08:23:10
September 01 2010 02:42 GMT
#1
Name: 허준과침제니스 aka Acupuncture aka JiTaeHun
Race: Terren
Clan: Zenith

Achievements:
No longer on the 8./31/2010 top 200 list
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/24/2010) - 190
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/17/2010) - 101
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/10/2010) - 132

14 win streak in Gisado's Korean KOTH (8/8/2010)
8 win streak in Gisado's Korean KOTH (7/30/2010)

53.3% Bnet record

Has been training in custom games exclusively according to his match history, so may have been getting better.

Replays:
TvZ
8/20: vs cool
8/21: vs oGsTheWinD
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #1
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #2
8/26: vs cool

TvT
8/30: vs Hyperdub

Results:
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8/20: vs cool L
8/21: vs oGsTheWinD W
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #1 Disc or something
8/25: vs jAnGyUk #2 W (gg)
8/26: vs cool L (gg)

8/30: vs Hyperdub L


Analysis:
This guy has very good micro and harassment abilities. All TvZ replays are of him ghost dropping + vikings. He spends a lot on tech and as a result have few units, and doesn't expand very quickly, even if his 2nd CC is already completed. Macro is a little weak as he gets supply blocked often. It seems like he has catches his zerg opponents off guard with his innovative strategy, but can be defeated by roaches or baneling bust (if he doesn't double wall). He may be a 1 trick pony, but his ghost usage could be more refined by GSL opening day.

I do think idra can easily beat him as long as he knows what to expect and scout for.
Good luck to you sir!

Anyone got more info on him?


EDIT: I will post all the info I got on the opponents of TLO, Artosis, and TorcH as well here, but doesn't really call for their own thread since info is limited. Again, if anyone got more info, share please.

NEXFreeSaGA vs Artosis
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Name: NEXFreeSaGA
Race: Protoss


Achievements:
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/31/2010) - 114
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/24/2010) - N/A
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/17/2010) - 178
KR Bnet top 200 list (8/10/2010) - 120

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/244073/NEXFreeSaGA

WTF Takedown #2: vs AugustWeRRA (T)



http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=411
http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=412


Losira vs TLO
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LosirA
Zerg


http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1164779/1/LosirA/
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/1164779/LosirA


SlayerS vs TorcH
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SlayerS
Protoss


KR Bnet top 200 list (8/31/2010) - 153

http://sc2ranks.com/kr/81719/SlayerS
53.43% 1v1 wins

http://rts-sanctuary.com/index.php?portal=SC2&showtopic=189631
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=559
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=713
http://sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=867


I haven't watched all their replays yet, so I cannot provide an analysis, but it seems like Losira and SlayerS are relatively low key, clanless players. FreeSaga however is in a pretty strong clan, but I don't think Artosis should get far simply because of the conflict of interest.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
September 01 2010 02:43 GMT
#2
on paper IdrA is def the favourite to win.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 01 2010 02:46 GMT
#3
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?
...from the land of imba
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 02:54:26
September 01 2010 02:49 GMT
#4
i really think the westerners have a great shot to do well. hopefully more make their way over soon.
:O
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
September 01 2010 02:50 GMT
#5
ghost drops? that sounds interested, altho gas intensive. but I know once I went like mass ghost (well, 8 ghosts + MMM ball) vs zerg and I just used pure sniping hydras/mutas/anything really, and wow did it do some insane damage.. So I can only imagine how fast a ghost drop could take out a whole drone line.

I want idra to nerdrage at a live event =]
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
September 01 2010 02:53 GMT
#6
ah, he's the "ghost-guy". ^^'

Seen some nice reps of him....
https://soundcloud.com/thesamplethief
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
September 01 2010 02:54 GMT
#7
IdrAis the favourite but he has to play seriously. Zenith clan has really good players.
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
September 01 2010 02:57 GMT
#8
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?

i don't think so, i think in an interview he did while living in the CJ house, he said he respected the korean players because they were obviously better than him so he didn't BM
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 02:59:44
September 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#9
I'm just worried that IdrA might rage at the ghost plays. At Artosis vlog he said hes not expecting to lose until faced with cool or tester. I hope this attitude dont bite him too early in the tournament.

I saw this guy playing against cool. He got a nuke off and that was fun lol. Actually mayb we will get to see IdrA rage at a Korean for once LOL

"You r very good at Nuking.... Nuking is a very good skill toi have"
Play Terran
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
September 01 2010 03:00 GMT
#10
I watched this guy play vs. CellaWeRRa this morning. He has incredible micro abilities and is very very good at sniping queens, overseers and nuking with his ghosts. He also likes to double drop (8marines in the back) and then use his ghost to snipe off important units.

Cella did win all the games I watched this morning but I tell you that cella told us he was very used to playing vs. this guy and if you are not prepared for his insane micro and ghost ability you will be overrun and unable to focus.

I hope idrA has looked him up.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
September 01 2010 03:04 GMT
#11
i recall seeing day9 casting the morrow v idra match and comments on how idra lose focus and start to make mistakes when under pressure.

in other words, idra dont respond well to harass and crumbles to "skill-less newbies".
...from the land of imba
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 03:09:19
September 01 2010 03:06 GMT
#12
What is his prior record? Sounds like a WC3 player to me (better micro than macro, "hero"-unit oriented). I wish IdrA succeeds, but it won't be easy, for sure. This guy has almost all the qualities that are the worst for IdrA to deal with, including the race.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 01 2010 03:07 GMT
#13
Thanks for all the info on Idra's opponent, getting pumped for waking up at 5:30 EST on saturday (or just 'staying up until,' its a toss-up).

Hopefully we're in for some great games.
jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
September 01 2010 03:08 GMT
#14
he can micro, so 5 rax reaper and idra is in trouble, unless he has something better then his build v morrow (is there anything better? I havent seen it)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
September 01 2010 03:09 GMT
#15
On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?


Not the games that I've seen. (I mean Tester cannon rushed him twice XD and he gg'd)

Besides the point, I wish him luck as long as he remembers $85,000 is on the line and comes with new builds I think he has a shot .
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 01 2010 03:12 GMT
#16
lol i love how this tourney could end up being an anime lol

FIRST OPPONENT: USES GHOST WITH DROPS VERY GOOD MICRO

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MUST HOLLDDDDD
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
September 01 2010 03:14 GMT
#17
On September 01 2010 12:09 Merikh wrote:
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On September 01 2010 11:46 dybydx wrote:
on paper, Acupuncture is genetically superior to Idra. :p

btw, do Idra ever BM in Korean matches?


Not the games that I've seen. (I mean Tester cannon rushed him twice XD and he gg'd)

Besides the point, I wish him luck as long as he remembers $85,000 is on the line and comes with new builds I think he has a shot .


In the GOM videos, Artosis was joking w/ Idra about how many of the Koreans walking in have cheesed them and been subject to their flames. I think Idra just BMs people who beat him that he thinks are worse than him. So in BW he never flamed Koreans because they were all equal/better. He also respects Tester. I don't think we've seen him publicly lose to a cheese by a worse Korean yet. Stay tuned.
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
September 01 2010 03:22 GMT
#18
I thought TLO was our tricky pony
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
September 01 2010 03:29 GMT
#19
IdrA would never 'ragequit' in a event like GSL. As far as i know, there is a rule to say GG after game. If you don't, you might get a warning or disqualification. IdrA ain't idiot.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
September 01 2010 03:35 GMT
#20
Nice break down - hope Idra advances through him
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