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Cranefly
Profile Joined February 2007
Germany184 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 16:09:39
July 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#1
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hi. can you tell me what is said in this diagram? It's from the OSl match of Effort an Action. I guess each color stands for a player and different skills are compared. Can you tell me which ones?

Thx!





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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
July 28 2010 16:15 GMT
#2
FP Fighting Power
SP Supply
HT Hi-Tech
CT Control
RS Resources
F.A.O.D.
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
100 Posts
July 28 2010 16:28 GMT
#3
lol this is like the groove radar from SM
ㅅ_ㅅ;;
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
July 28 2010 16:47 GMT
#4
전투력 fighting power, fighting efficiency
자원 resources
컨트롤 control, micro
고급테크 high tech
물량 supply, macro
rwong48
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States105 Posts
July 28 2010 17:04 GMT
#5
On July 29 2010 01:28 F.A.O.D. wrote:
lol this is like the groove radar from SM

ddr max 1
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
July 28 2010 17:12 GMT
#6
i absolutely love it when they compare someone to Flash or JD

concentric circles
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
July 28 2010 18:24 GMT
#7
Just think of these diagrams like the individual player stats you see and play in "Mystarcraft" game. Though I don't think anyone in the real world got perfect in all of the categories except in my fantasy starcraft game...
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 18:45:10
July 28 2010 18:44 GMT
#8
lol that looks like the PES (pro evolution soccer) stats on players.. it would be cool to see all of the players in one page..
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KumquatExpress
Profile Joined October 2009
United States344 Posts
July 28 2010 19:30 GMT
#9
Freeze, chaos, voltage, stream, and air.
Just kidding. SM hwaiting!
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 28 2010 19:46 GMT
#10
They are there to determine the probability of a power outage in an MSL final.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 28 2010 19:49 GMT
#11
On July 29 2010 04:30 KumquatExpress wrote:
Freeze, chaos, voltage, stream, and air.
Just kidding. SM hwaiting!


You know I was never able to tell the actual difference between Voltage and Stream. Was there a single song that was low in one but high in the other?
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16987 Posts
July 28 2010 20:12 GMT
#12
On July 29 2010 04:49 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 04:30 KumquatExpress wrote:
Freeze, chaos, voltage, stream, and air.
Just kidding. SM hwaiting!


You know I was never able to tell the actual difference between Voltage and Stream. Was there a single song that was low in one but high in the other?


Aren't songs like CHAOS from supernova very high in voltage but not stream? Songs like HVAM would be high in stream but not voltage, right?
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Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
July 28 2010 20:29 GMT
#13
That being said, what is that little MSL graph before a game.

The one where they show the last 10 games, have an upward red bar for wins, and a downward gray bar for a loss and then somehow come out with positive number.

For example: In Kal vs JD, JD has 8 red bars of different height, with 2 gray bars of a similar nature, then at the end had +13 O.o

I just wanna know where they get that number from that graph O.o
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1752 Posts
July 28 2010 20:51 GMT
#14
What do Fighting power and High Tech mean? I would probably just be interested in Macro, Micro, Game Sense, and Number of Fans.
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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
July 28 2010 21:18 GMT
#15
Fighitng power is like how much you can do with your units, the efficiency per cost.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 28 2010 23:47 GMT
#16
On July 29 2010 06:18 kineSiS- wrote:
Fighitng power is like how much you can do with your units, the efficiency per cost.


That sounds like micro... Or is it like having good cover for tanks, not giving free units, etc etc?
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 29 2010 00:44 GMT
#17
How the heck do they measure those things? O_O
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
July 29 2010 01:07 GMT
#18
On July 29 2010 05:29 Yxes2211 wrote:
That being said, what is that little MSL graph before a game.

The one where they show the last 10 games, have an upward red bar for wins, and a downward gray bar for a loss and then somehow come out with positive number.

For example: In Kal vs JD, JD has 8 red bars of different height, with 2 gray bars of a similar nature, then at the end had +13 O.o

I just wanna know where they get that number from that graph O.o

Red bars represent wins, gray bars represent losses. Each bar has a value from 1-4. The higher the value, the better the opponent for wins, but the worse the opponent for losses. The number at the end is just the sum of all the bars.
Jaedong
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 29 2010 01:46 GMT
#19
On July 29 2010 09:44 dukethegold wrote:
How the heck do they measure those things? O_O


Commentators make up the stats
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
July 29 2010 02:23 GMT
#20
On July 29 2010 05:12 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 04:49 Jayme wrote:
On July 29 2010 04:30 KumquatExpress wrote:
Freeze, chaos, voltage, stream, and air.
Just kidding. SM hwaiting!


You know I was never able to tell the actual difference between Voltage and Stream. Was there a single song that was low in one but high in the other?


Aren't songs like CHAOS from supernova very high in voltage but not stream? Songs like HVAM would be high in stream but not voltage, right?

Off-topic:
Voltage only counts the peak density of the song. It doesn't matter how hard the song is overall; if there's one section where arrows are bunched up (i.e. Xepher Challenge), then voltage rises. You do have the correct idea for stream though.

CHAOS, in that theory, should have somewhat high voltage rate due to its ending, but not in stream. HVAM, however, does not have any peak density; its all constant stream.

On-topic: I thought the stats came from some website that had winner's predictions, not from the commentator's alone. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what website it was?
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