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[Request] Horror Gate Reps/Vods

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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 19:28:20
November 02 2009 19:20 GMT
#1
Recently I've been getting pretty frustrated at the effectiveness of the horror gate strategy. It seems if I do not scout the gates early enough it's a guaranteed loss no matter how terrible the micro is of my opponent.

I'm wondering if anyone has any replays or vods of people getting horror gated and the victim winning (preferably ones where they don't just scout it early on which makes it easy).

For those of you that don't know, the horror gate strategy is when you build gateways inside someone else's base (particularly effective on maps with large bases you can hide gates in such as blue storm or destination), usually early on such as a 9/9 build. It's basically just proxying gates inside someone else's base, and often is effective even if the victim scouts it.

Thanks

edit: This is for PvP
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 02 2009 19:23 GMT
#2
who calls it horror gate. If you're terran, don't seal and do two sim city gaps with your depot/rax/depot/fact.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 02 2009 19:28 GMT
#3
Sorry, I should have clarified, this is for PvP
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 20:01:03
November 02 2009 19:57 GMT
#4
i lol'd when i read 'horror gate'

just scout early, esp on iccup

if you're really that paranoid u can try 2 gating too
jaedong forever~
tossinYoSalad
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
November 02 2009 20:01 GMT
#5
orb you know that horror gates are 2 gates built off a manner pylon. in any case, if you pull 4-5 probes and attack the pylon you can usually kill it before gateways are built. or, if you want to wait you can pull i think 6 probes and kill a gateway, then you make 2 gates and just pump zeals.

alternatively, since their base is literally undefended, you can manner pylon the hell out of them (map dependent) and then they cant make zeals lol.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 20:14:50
November 02 2009 20:13 GMT
#6
Why is it called horror gate?

I like to gate/forge, cannon in min line while sending a zeal to their base.
Don't know if it'll work past C level.
No I'm never serious.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
November 02 2009 20:29 GMT
#7
yes nyte, i´ve seen TT1 use that counter effectively in some B+/A- game, he also said that was the best counter to gateways in your mineral line.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
November 02 2009 21:18 GMT
#8
you can put probes around his pylon so that you block his building placement. you should only need a few to well placed probes to keep him from building that gateway.
Really, play for fun!
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 02 2009 23:01 GMT
#9
On November 03 2009 05:13 Nytefish wrote:
Why is it called horror gate?

I like to gate/forge, cannon in min line while sending a zeal to their base.
Don't know if it'll work past C level.


Yes this is fine if you scout it, but I'm talking about if you don't scout it until later

I guess I got the definition wrong if horror gating is only when it's off a manner pylon (easier to defend because you auto scout it right there), I'm talking about a proxy in your base, so in other words you can't block a ramp etc.

And I'm really looking for replays or vods. And no, putting probes around everywhere to block every possible gateway placement is ridiculous... I would have like 3 probes left mining.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 02 2009 23:09 GMT
#10
lmao, first time ive heard it called the horror gate. and the other suggestions are pretty good.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 23:38:28
November 02 2009 23:34 GMT
#11
To reiterate for everyone else...

A type of proxy gate is when gateway(s) are built secretly in the opposing player's main- a la (P)Bisu v. (P)PerfectMan. We've all seen this on iccup.

+ Show Spoiler +


A horror gate is the ballsy, I'm-better-than-you gateways built after a manner pylon. If you are successfully horror gated, you must immediately get on the floor and do 100 push-ups before returning to starcraft.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIs5HS_oMxU
(P)Bisu v. (P)PokJu (Pokju never did his push-ups and retired)


(P)Horang2 v. (T)NaDa


The last game shows a defense of a horror gate. All the game play after is not to be followed. This is probably more of a strategy discussion.

***

If you can scout the proxy gate, you can probably kill off the pylon, harass the probe and keep zealots from building. A shield battery is wonderful if you can manage it.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 02 2009 23:39 GMT
#12
Horror gates rock <3
But yeah, unless you scout an inbase proxy, theres bery little chance of defending it. you just have to add a gate, a shield battery, and pray
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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
November 02 2009 23:43 GMT
#13
you literally have to scout inside your base to stop it. every standard tvp build dies to it just about nomatter what. if you scout it before your gas is done, its really easy to crush. closest i ever saw to someone being caught offguard way too late and still doing a good job was iloveoov vs much i believe on tau cross in some wcg korea qualifier a year or 2 ago. much still won but oov played to perfection considering.
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kiwi
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania26 Posts
December 03 2009 19:33 GMT
#14
I love it, it's my new strategy to use just like BISU!
Melior morior bellator, quam ago profugus.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 03 2009 19:42 GMT
#15
Wasn't there a match where one player horror-barrax'd and the protoss player scouted it via lucky cybernetics core placements.
asl-ninja
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
78 Posts
December 03 2009 19:59 GMT
#16
gogo vs kal tho gogo is a retard ;(
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