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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
It's the message that the TL staff is sending everybody that bothers me so much. In the eyes of TL, BW is dead. Pretty soon I think BW will be moved down the left side to below Sports & Games and the Replays section will get grouped with BW even though once upon a time there was a small but dedicated staff putting their heart and soul into that subforum. I anticipate all of this happening before the year is out. Speaking honestly, I've been somewhat disappointed by the way the forum is handled in general lately. We used to have these things called the TL Commandments, which I think most of the forum doesn't even know exists anymore. The staff got too lenient in order to encourage the growth of SC2, which some of us older BW guys the bitter old men of the forum. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On September 14 2011 11:48 Seeker wrote: Anyone know where september PR is? T-T It will come after OSL finals are played. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On September 14 2011 02:42 Mortality wrote: Getting to PR isn't a problem for me. And truthfully, a lot of people would always come over and post stupid things without bothering to at least skim the thread, or making outrageous fanboy comments; in that respect PR won't suffer as badly. It's the message that the TL staff is sending everybody that bothers me so much. In the eyes of TL, BW is dead. Pretty soon I think BW will be moved down the left side to below Sports & Games and the Replays section will get grouped with BW even though once upon a time there was a small but dedicated staff putting their heart and soul into that subforum. I anticipate all of this happening before the year is out. Speaking honestly, I've been somewhat disappointed by the way the forum is handled in general lately. We used to have these things called the TL Commandments, which I think most of the forum doesn't even know exists anymore. The staff got too lenient in order to encourage the growth of SC2, which some of us older BW guys the bitter old men of the forum. That's exactly how I feel as well. And it hurts me a lot. It seems like BW was abandoned by TL some time ago. Moreover the quality of average post has decreased ever since SC2 was released. The latter maybe simply because average age of BW fan is higher than SC2 fan meaning that BW fans are more mature? Or maybe it's just with the larger volume there is larger number of trolls and idiots... | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On September 15 2011 14:30 Lebesgue wrote: That's exactly how I feel as well. And it hurts me a lot. It seems like BW was abandoned by TL some time ago. Moreover the quality of average post has decreased ever since SC2 was released. The latter maybe simply because average age of BW fan is higher than SC2 fan meaning that BW fans are more mature? Or maybe it's just with the larger volume there is larger number of trolls and idiots... BW fans went through several periods of Rekrul wielding that ban hammer like a tyrant. Not saying TL was perfect back then or anything and probably a large part of the problem today is that there's just such a flood of traffic through this site, but this forum really is in need of some purging. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
This game 5 will never be forgotten. Biggest comeback I have ever seen. I am so messed up right now, just beautiful. After that two year slump of epic proportions. | ||
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United States10328 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Jangbi #1. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
1. Jangbi - I was originally planning to leave Flash at #1 unless we had a 3-0 blowout, but Jangbi's play has honestly just been THAT impressive. My biggest hesitation about putting Jangbi this high is consistency. Up until a few months ago, Jangbi was in a slump of about 25% wins over a period of about a year. YIKES! He's really turned that around, cracking into 2200 ELO territory, winning OSL against the 2 best TvPers on the scene and demolishing a ZvP sniper 3-0. The only match he hasn't *really* proved is PvP. Which is actually his highest match by ELO right now since it was least effected by his slump. Even if Jangbi plummets next season, he proved that he was more than just the flavor of the month, and that's what is important. True power. Not just a handful of wins, not even a tournament badge. True power. 2. Flash - it feels like forever since he last played, but that's only because nothing is going on. Let's face it, had Jangbi not knocked him out in a tense 2-1 series in Ro16, Flash probably would have torn apart this OSL. Soo would have been curb-stomped even harder (if that's at all possible), Hydra would have no chance (look at their past matches) and Fantasy might have been close, but history has always favored Flash in their titanic clashes. Not only that, but where Jangbi really failed recently was the SPL playoffs, which is where Flash shined in typical Flash fashion, carrying his team to the GF stage and wiping the floor with Best twice to secure the crown. 3. Fantasy - I did not originally intend to put him this high. Going into the series with Hydra, Fantasy was on an 8 game win streak, but who had he beaten? Only one opponent was actually a serious vT opponent. Not only that, but Fantasy was coming off a pretty ugly looking slump since the SWL playoffs back in March. However, Fantasy displayed some seriously superb TvZ against Hydra and some superb TvP against Jangbi, pushing our new champion to the absolute limit. What's more is that there's no real reason to doubt Fantasy's TvT either. So for now at least it seems Fantasy is back. The question is if he will stay back or go back to trolling. 4. Zero - On my tentative ranking posted 8/31 I put Bisu ahead of Zero. The thing with Zero is that he hasn't had any opportunities to play since last PR, which is a damn shame because he's a lot of fun to watch. If you doubt this ranking, let's recap where Zero is as of the last rankings released: #2 PR, #3 ELO, #3 KeSPA. All of these rankings measure different things and all of them value Zero at the top. He is, in my opinion, the best Zerg player in the world right now. 5. Bisu - As I said, I originally put Bisu above Zero. But after some internal deliberation I am not satisfied. The problem with where to rank Bisu is that he's been dominating for months and months, but who has he played? What has he accomplished? Nobody and nothing. Compared to Flash who has been tested numerous times, compared to Zero who carried his team on his back in the playoffs, compared to Jangbi who squared down two of the best TvPers in history to claim the throne... how does Bisu REALLY look? I would have loved to see a Bisu vs Flash ace match instead of Best vs Flash if for no other reason than to answer this. 6. Hydra - Oooooh boy, Fantasy really wiped the floor with him. But while Hydra's game play looked sloppy in some parts, it looked fantastic in others and ZvT is his worst match. Had Hydra beaten Fantasy, I honestly believe that we would have seen Hydra crowned for the second time this year. That's how small the gap is between #1 and #6 right now. 7. Stats - As I said previously, his role in crowning KT cannot be overlooked. Without him they wouldn't have even made the finals, let alone win it. 8. Jaedong - Hard to believe that the Dong is this low. But don't take that to mean that he's fallen out of the title picture. His star is waning, but he's still S-class. The fact that S-class sits only at #8 should be a good indicator of just how crowded it's gotten at the top. As for what JD needs to work on, no question its ZvZ. His ZvP is still very strong and his ZvT seems impenetrable. His ZvZ has now held him back from advancing in the past 4 Starleagues. 9. Hoejja - for what he did in the GF 10. Sun, Bogus or Light CBNC: whoever doesn't make #10 + Killer, maybe + Soo, maybe + Horang2 | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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nodule
Canada931 Posts
facts: Jangbi appeared on the PR in 2007 for the first time Jangbi was #1 in PR in January, 2009 | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
But Jangbi should be a clear #2. I think he still lack that legit PvZ win to make me think he's truly on top. If Hydra and Soo had switched places, I'd lean more towards Jangbi #1. But beating the two best TvPer in the world, including the best player in the world, in BoXs is truly impressive On September 18 2011 01:12 Mortality wrote: CBNC: whoever doesn't make #10 + Killer, maybe + Soo, maybe + Horang2 I'm not a killer fan, not even a zerg fan. But Killer deserves a top 10 spot. His OSL run is impressive, and almost winning the series against Soo despite one forfeit and 2 BO disadvantages shows plenty of skills. His PL season is nice, and Oz not in the playoffs is not his fault. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
JangBi defeated: - Flash in a Bo3: not much details needed. Who else has taken Flash down in a BoX in a while? Admittedly Flash didn't play his best in the series (particularly the latter two games), but JangBi played fantastic. - Fantasy in a Bo5: Fantasy was on a roll, winning his SPL finals game as well as almost all his OSL games up until the finals. JangBi's comeback in set 5... cannot be expressed in words. - Soo in a Bo5: Many people are underestimating Soo but this guy had a ZvP of 10-2 this season, and JangBi just broke him down methodically in the set. - ... and a couple others on his way to fulfilling Legend of the Fall. Also I think the fact that JangBi rose so quickly from the worst of his slumps to his well-earned champion title should be taken into account. That shows how tough this kid's mindset is. | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2246 Posts
On September 18 2011 15:55 OpticalShot wrote: I would be severely disappointed if I don't see JangBi at #1. Power rank takes into account the quality of games and the player's "form" or "momentum" as well as the win/loss record for the month (to a lesser degree), and I can't pick out another that's shown greater mental strength and determination. JangBi defeated: - Flash in a Bo3: not much details needed. Who else has taken Flash down in a BoX in a while? Admittedly Flash didn't play his best in the series (particularly the latter two games), but JangBi played fantastic. - Fantasy in a Bo5: Fantasy was on a roll, winning his SPL finals game as well as almost all his OSL games up until the finals. JangBi's comeback in set 5... cannot be expressed in words. - Soo in a Bo5: Many people are underestimating Soo but this guy had a ZvP of 10-2 this season, and JangBi just broke him down methodically in the set. - ... and a couple others on his way to fulfilling Legend of the Fall. Also I think the fact that JangBi rose so quickly from the worst of his slumps to his well-earned champion title should be taken into account. That shows how tough this kid's mindset is. I, as a Flash fan, concur | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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