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On May 14 2011 03:34 ilovejonn wrote:
I agree, at least killing me will provide you guys with more information. I'll do whatever town needs the most.
You haven't provided anything other than self defence since Day 2. The most significant analysis you've given so far has been on EternalMisfit.
What's your roleclaim?
On May 11 2011 03:52 ilovejonn wrote:
Wow can you guys not read only one part of a sentence? I am basically role claiming there hello? It's fine if you don't believe you can go ahead and vote for me, but I'd rather not have us mislynch.
If there are still veterans in the mafia, my GF suspects are redtooth and orgolove. If there are only new players in the mafia team left it could be anyone really.
You never expanded on this. Like sinani206, if you are town, which I don't believe, you owe it us to defend yourself.
Airblade, you haven't defended yourself either. Step forward gents.
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Now you've voted for yourself? Wtf?
On May 14 2011 03:34 ilovejonn wrote:
##Unvote: sinani206
##Vote: ilovejonn
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I'm townie. Why not lynch for information? We have mislynches at disposal. And what defense do you guys possibly want from me. I've been on all the wrong lynches and have no credibility in this game any more, flipping will probably provide more than what I can say.
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It's good policy to lynch scum. If you're town, you should help us lynch scum, not help us lynch you.
Wrong =/= scum. Saying "I give up, just lynch me" makes me very suspicious. orgolove did it, and people aren't discussing him anymore, so you're going to try it too?
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I'm not sold on the "new townie" theory about Sinani, but at this point he's contributing more than ilovejonn. There's at least some effort there.
redtooth, I'd love to hear your opinion more. Staying quiet is not pro-town.
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Bad news, I´m not going to be here during the later half of this Day, or at least the last ~18h.
I´m going away over the weekend, leaving in about 14h. I´m hoping sinani206 is going down, because of what happened during the last night, because he still looks scummy, and because his flip would give a lot of info on jaminz and others. Unfortunately I won´t be here to argue during the end of it, so who is getting lynched is up to you.
If it makes you happier, then think about the fact that I´m going to have to wait about 15h after the night before I finally get to know the result of this days lynch.
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I still think orgolove is GF. Check his posts before 1802 and after.
Like people mentioned, he gives us a flawed data sheet to follow (I know it's flawed because I'm townie but managed to accumulate the most points due to a) not switching to Amber because I was away, b) sticking with my analysis on EM which turned out to be wrong.), says that Dropbear and I are top targets based on the point system he made out of thin air, and then when we lynch EM he goes, guys I convinced you soooooo hard that you guys deserve to lose if you don't follow my spreadsheet.
You didn't convince us on anything dude, you laid out information we all could have observed and placed some arbitrary points into it, then said you're disgusted with the town after a mislynch. That's some major convincing you did.
And you guys are right, why waste a vote on myself. I'll use MY vote on who I think is scum.
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K. i dont wan tto kill sinani anymore. hes being stacked on way too fast in the past couple of hours. i say we kill AirbladeOrange..
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On May 14 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:
K. i dont wan tto kill sinani anymore. hes being stacked on way too fast in the past couple of hours. i say we kill AirbladeOrange.. After yesterday? Seriously? Don´t let up, Scum will take any chance they can to get on our good side the moment we forget their history.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
lol and ilovejonn slips through the crack once again. Don't you guys find it even remotely suspicious that there hasn't been any defense or counter bandwagon formed after sinai was first accused?
*sigh* this game just isn't worth my time anymore.
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You don't think that the EM wagon counts as a "counter bandwagon?" Scum could hop on that wagon without raising undue suspicion.
there are what, 29 hours left in the day? ilovejonn has hardly "slipped through the cracks."
If you want him lynched so bad, why don't you try to convince us? If you're not going to try, I'm not going to listen to you. The only argument that you've given is that he's been talked about a lot. I'm ignoring your data, because it's not reliable. If you can give me a solid argument, I'll bite.
DropBear almost has me convinced already.
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Oh god, 4 hours during a day cycle with no posts. Time to prod the lurkers.
On May 11 2011 14:01 Conversion wrote:
Post behavior wise I can't really draw up a conclusion on Sinani and ilovejohn because they don't have any... substantial posts. It's suspicious at best.
You have 3 posts in the last 30 pages. If you can't draw a conclusion on sinani and jonn, how do you expect us to have any idea about you?
On May 13 2011 13:16 Conversion wrote:
Hey guys. I know I'm not really helping town by being really quiet and voting for myself.
Is kenpachi pretty much confirmed townie from his vig claim?
Then why are you doing it anyways? 
Yes. No one ever counter-claimed, so its safe to assume he is town.
On May 13 2011 22:22 redtooth wrote:
Erm. I'm still here guys, just sitting back after my analysis was shown to be flawed. But I'd like to reiterate the following - we should wait until day to start doing analysis UNLESS you would want a vigi hit. Seeing as we're not sold 100% on Sinani, might as well wait to see who gets killed and what they flip.
You have 4 posts in the last 30 pages. Congrats, you are marginally less unhelpful than conversion. Do you want people to feel sorry for you or something? Your analysis was wrong during day one and day two, but that doesn't mean that earns you a free pass to sit back and watch until late game.
On May 10 2011 16:04 elmizzt wrote:
about time someone paid attention to me! I was feeling unloved :o
Six posts in the last 30 pages. Give this guy a gold star. Oh wait, the only analysis you've provided is "lol scum, he plays sc2 mafia". Bravo.
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Sorry, it's just that I get really lost at this stage of the game..
I really don't know how to proceed. :s It's kind of weird that none of the mafia team tried to start a bandwagon lynch on me like that did last game.
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k, I'd try to contribuet some, but im a little inebrarted right now. and bleeding frmo some broken bglass.
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ilovejonn
This is ilovejonn's list of votes:
1)
kurumi
2)
beneather
cthsaza
3)
eternalmisfit
4)
sinani206
ilovejonn
oroglove
Hmm....
So far, 3 greens and a blue. Kurumi bandwagon day 1 and EternalMisfit bandwagon day 3, with no real explanations for either. He is also experienced, so he can't be forgiven for not explaining.
Today, first he votes on my bandwagon, then after I defend myself and DropBear accepts the defense, he switches to himself, saying this:
On May 14 2011 04:06 ilovejonn wrote:
I'm townie. Why not lynch for information? We have mislynches at disposal. And what defense do you guys possibly want from me. I've been on all the wrong lynches and have no credibility in this game any more, flipping will probably provide more than what I can say.
Why do you first roleclaim townie and then tell the town to lynch you for information? You want us to call a bluff, to believe that you are a Townie that will sacrifice himself for the town, and then leave you alive. But you aren't. You wanted us to leave you alone so that you could stay alive and the Mafia would keep their 2KP.
Then, after Varpulis' post:
On May 14 2011 04:40 Varpulis wrote:
It's good policy to lynch scum. If you're town, you should help us lynch scum, not help us lynch you.
Wrong =/= scum. Saying "I give up, just lynch me" makes me very suspicious. orgolove did it, and people aren't discussing him anymore, so you're going to try it too?
You post this and switch back to oroglove:
On May 14 2011 05:34 ilovejonn wrote:
I still think orgolove is GF. Check his posts before 1802 and after.
Like people mentioned, he gives us a flawed data sheet to follow (I know it's flawed because I'm townie but managed to accumulate the most points due to a) not switching to Amber because I was away, b) sticking with my analysis on EM which turned out to be wrong.), says that Dropbear and I are top targets based on the point system he made out of thin air, and then when we lynch EM he goes, guys I convinced you soooooo hard that you guys deserve to lose if you don't follow my spreadsheet.
You didn't convince us on anything dude, you laid out information we all could have observed and placed some arbitrary points into it, then said you're disgusted with the town after a mislynch. That's some major convincing you did.
And you guys are right, why waste a vote on myself. I'll use MY vote on who I think is scum.
Because you realize that Varpulis is right, you switch to orgolove, to act more like a townie and act like you are trying to kill the scum. But you just use the same arguments against him that everyone else has. Another bandwagon. You realize that this is 3 band wagons you have joined, all without adding to the accusation?
I know where my vote is going today.
##Vote: ilovejonn
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I'm busy today, sorry that I'm quiet. Sinani has been more helpful and town friendly now, and ilovejonn hasn't done much to save himself. His analysis seems forced, and his lynch would clear up the alignments of a couple of people.
I'm going to throw a vote on him for now. I'll post more substantial reasons why tomorrow, assuming nothing changes.
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Lol it's almost a perfectly split lynch again.
Sinani I agree with most of your analysis and I've been backing you but.... that post is very different to ones you've made previously. Is there some scumcoaching going on there I wonder?
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On May 14 2011 06:57 Varpulis wrote:
You don't think that the EM wagon counts as a "counter bandwagon?" Scum could hop on that wagon without raising undue suspicion.
there are what, 29 hours left in the day? ilovejonn has hardly "slipped through the cracks."
If you want him lynched so bad, why don't you try to convince us? If you're not going to try, I'm not going to listen to you. The only argument that you've given is that he's been talked about a lot. I'm ignoring your data, because it's not reliable. If you can give me a solid argument, I'll bite.
DropBear almost has me convinced already.
Varpuli, I've saying almost exactly the same thing as orgolove. Ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are on his top 4 list. I've been saying ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange.
He's wrong, but I'm right? That's a blatant contradiction.
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He's new. At that point in the game, nobody had enough information to post long, structured analyses. His list was well organized, if misguided.
As it stands, his analysis and contribution is better than ilovejonn's. Sinani hasn't posted "i'm town just lynch me," and sinani doesn't have strong connections to anybody in the game because he's been so quiet. Jonn has, and he has potential connections with ABO and jaminz, iirc.
You wrote the wall on ilovejonn. Do you think that you were right?
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