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Umasi
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Blazinghand
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On July 18 2013 09:21 Xzavier wrote: Blazinghand best mod NA, risking his life to post on the forum with his phone instead of looking at the traffic. <3 >assuming traffic is moving | ||
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hzflank
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Chromatically
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hzflank
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Chromatically
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hzflank
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I have found something interesting, but it is almost wholly dependent on Super being town. On July 14 2013 06:27 Umasi wrote: I was going to respond, but fuck it! kirby, defend yourself plx and by that I mean bring up better lynch targets than Super, Gotard, and you or bring evidence against one of the other two! On July 14 2013 07:39 Umasi wrote: @ RAINBOWS You played in a game where Kirby got mislynched, what do you think of this? Do you think he's scummy or not? Are you still going to stick with Gotard when there are more compelling cases out there to be on? (At least, ones that I think are more compelling) On July 14 2013 07:51 Umasi wrote: that's not me letting him (Gotard) off the hook, that's me saying "superfluous or jrkirby" On July 15 2013 08:09 Umasi wrote: Like, at this point, I'm losing the motivation to talk about it (Gotard) at the time, because Superfluous and Kirby are just objectively scummier people. From his current posts, I don't think he's scummy enough to warrant a switch. I don't think he's too scummy at all, tbth He gives independent reasoning for his reads, and has good thought, he's just not posting very frequently On July 15 2013 08:33 Umasi wrote: WHISPER WHISPER Gotard, I do not think, is the best lynch Koshi has said some good stuff, said some absolutely shit stuff, and is absolutely going to be incompetent as we get later in the game. I still think this is not town-town. On July 15 2013 08:48 Umasi wrote: btw last minute vote swaps SUCK just throwing that out there. don't get any ideas aside from the two candidates we have, we can look at others later On July 16 2013 07:50 Umasi wrote: slightly scummy: Gotard, Night, Koshi, Gotard is only very slightly scummy though. Koshi and Night I'm a lot less sure on, Koshi has been around a lot and posted pretty erratically, and has done basically nothing to help town, but hasn't necessarily played like a scum would (imo) Night is just weird, fuck it, post more, lynch all lurkers etcetcetcetcetc (has done nothing blah blah) Preferred lynch: STILL SUPERFLUOUS He's done nothing to make me want to lynch him less, it was just a competition between Kirby and him, he's gone silent, I still think he's a better lynch, would like to pursue this as a lynch. I think I talked about everyone. Lynch order is Superfluous>Night>Koshi>Gotard unless something happens to change my mind. On July 17 2013 04:16 Umasi wrote: If neither of them post, I'll happily lynch Gotard or Superfluous, (Super slightly more) If one of them posts, well it obviously depends. | ||
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Umasi
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hzflank
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On July 18 2013 10:28 Umasi wrote: So you think I soft defended Gotard all game, is that the gist of what you're saying? Yes. At the very least, you were countering any attempts to wagon Gotard on day 1 long before we started to worry about ensuring a lynch. | ||
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Umasi
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Regardless, you can totally ignore the first quote, it's not relevant. In fact, it would more normally be read as an invitation for scrutiny (imo) The second quote was me actually thinking Gotard was not who we should look into lynching day one! (hence why I asked Rainbows about Kirby) Third quote is the same thing. Fourth quote, I think I explain what I was thinking about him at the time pretty darn well, it wasn't me directing attention away, it was my honest opinion on him. The fifth quote is much of the same. The sixth quote, is just me telling us to keep on the lynch track like we were. Seventh isn't even related to anything, remove it if you're trying to make a point. Me calling him "slightly scummy" when I could have ignored him doesn't support your point. Nothing at that time really compelled me to point him out anyway. The eighth is just me saying Superfluous is scummier to me. Honestly, I don't think that what I've done could be construed as trying to keep the wagons off of Gotard, since I still was happy to hop on Gotard when the time came. (yeah yeah it could be bus obviously) Basically~is soft defending Gotard all game always calling him slightly scummy, but not my preferred lynch, until I actually voted him? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:01 Umasi wrote: Then why is it wholly dependent on Superfluous being town? Because you wanted to keep the wagons as Kirby vs Super, while your vote was on Super who you thought was more scummy. Although you voted for Super before I did, you did not give much reasoning and later sheeped my reasoning. You allowed Sponge to move your vote between Kirby and Super, but not onto Gotard. On July 18 2013 11:01 Umasi wrote: Honestly, I don't think that what I've done could be construed as trying to keep the wagons off of Gotard, since I still was happy to hop on Gotard when the time came. As soon as day 2 started you voted for Super with little reasoning. That was consistent with your previous position and Super had not given you any reason to think otherwise. But then after Chrom and Sponge voted for Gotard, you sheeped onboard using some of my reasoning. To be fair, it would have been hard to provide your own reasoning as there was not a great deal to go on. There is no individual point of inconsistency, but you did hold the position of 'lynch someone other that Gotard' for a long time and you did provide input to keep the wagons on other people, you did immediately drop your day 2 vote on the most sheepable target and then move it to Gotard once some of the stronger town personalities were having a hard look at him. | ||
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Umasi
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I actually do not trust my own judgement that much, based on pretty good facts. That being, I have never, before this day, voted on a mafia player. I've like, put my vote ON them, but when it came lynch time, this was the first time I'd ever had my vote counted against a scum. I don't trust my own judgement too strongly compared to Sponge, Chrom, and you, and was happy to sheep. That said, I don't think that not giving reasoning independent of yours at the time I vote Superfluous is scummy, because my thoughts on Superfluous have been painfully transparent all game long. If this isn't satisfactory to you, we can keep discussing it. I think I explained what I was thinking around this pretty well. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Please do try not to sheep though. Also, trust your judgement more on your scum reads. Voting for the wrong person does not make you bad, as long as you provide solid reasoning. | ||
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Umasi
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On July 18 2013 07:37 Superfluous wrote: Hey guys sorry I've been missing, been sick the last few days and mafia hasn't really taken priority. Regardless I'm back and surprised that I am somehow not the main lynch target. I think Gotard is a good lynch and would like to honor kirby's last reads. That said I find it strange how no one is defending him too too much, though if he's maf it may just be that his teammates felt town would really push his lynch and they didn't want to defend him only for him to turn red. Other thoughts: Gut still says something's up with Xzavier, but with the revelation of sk it could be that and not necessarily maf. I agree with Onegu's case against Hurricane, though don't really have much to add to it. I realize it's kinda scummy to show up and just agree with the closest we have to proven but eh. I feel like Chroma has been playing completely differently day 2 than day 1. Now, maybe that's because he spent the first day defending me and had less to do today, but it feels weird how his main reason for defending me and calling me town was just to lynch kirby. Also keep in mind that while I think Maf killed Rainbows and not Koshi, Koshi WAS going really hard on Chroma for defending me. One line sticks out in my head, Koshi said that considering how hard Chroma was defending me it was almost as if he knew I was town. Something to keep in mind. I also feel like Umashi has done very little for town on day 2. Day 1 he was putting out pressure and trying to accomplish something, and it doesn't feel the same today. Now, he has ceded this roll to Onegu as he is pretty much confirmed yet hasn't done much himself. (Correct me if you feel I'm terribly wrong, this is just from skimming over and trying to post my thoughts before lynch). I also thought he was the obvious kill for mafia n1 if he was doing a good job of leading town. I think the last paragraph is the towniest thing he's posted so far, because it shows him actually looking into things independently. I'd still vote him, but it is something I'm milling through my head. | ||
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hzflank
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On July 18 2013 11:46 Umasi wrote: hz, what do you think of Superfluous now? His day 2 posts have been much better than his day 1 posts, and as you say his most recent one was the best. Since he has not posted as much as other people there is limited information to explore. I do not think anyone is going to forget about Super at this point, so the best thing to do is to try to engage Super and try to get more from him (I have been bad at engaging people so far, need to work on that). I do not think that Super is the scummiest player in the game at this point, but it's early in the phase and I have not fully digested the info from Gotard's flip yet (tired - brain not working). | ||
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hzflank
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
Im doing my best not to tunnel him if you cant tell xD | ||
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Xzavier
United States393 Posts
Now that hes posted again, with a post that has pro-town insights | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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Shoutouts to Kirby and Rainbows! | ||
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Hurricane Sponge
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The post by super surprises me. He like Onegu's case on me, but apparently thinks very little of my case on Alakaslam (calling Onegu's case 'the closest we have to proven'). Obviously this rings scum to me. I'd like to hear which parts of Onegu's case he finds most compelling. @Superfluous Why do you think I'm scum? | ||
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