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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 26 2010 13:01 GMT
#1901
On April 26 2010 21:44 Mob wrote:
yea, livestreams all day long.

TL should make a real TV channel. you could easily fill it with tournaments, shows, etc all 24h a day


That would be beyond awesome

Altough i think i would end up watching TV all day -.-


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TL took my Job! Derka Deeeerp
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
vonPluring
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden96 Posts
April 26 2010 14:25 GMT
#1902
On April 26 2010 17:26 ioldarnech wrote:
Aww the first nony vs moonglade games was awesome! Thing is, I tried that tech like 15 times, failed miserably each time. Nice to see someone actually make it work :D


yeah, it's kind of hard to pull off with the insane apm required, i practised it alot in 2v2 games where i think it's actually even more powerful than in 1v1s, plus you have some more room for mistakes and learning
pikaaarrr :3
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
April 26 2010 14:34 GMT
#1903
are the results up? :D
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
April 26 2010 14:45 GMT
#1904
On April 26 2010 21:55 floor exercise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 19:05 cuppatea wrote:
Man, there was some really poor play in those first few games, which led to a lot of easy, one sided wins. Can't help but think selecting players based on skill rather than name recognition would have provided a better standard of play and therefore a better quality of games.

That's pretty much always the case with invitational tournaments


Surely the whole point of an invitational is so that players DON'T have an easy ride in the early rounds? That's what seperates them from open tournaments like Zotac.

There are enough elite players out there to fill a 16 man invitational that is competitive and has exciting games from the first round to the last.

Throwing a few celebrity names in there might create some buzz when the tournament is announced but when it comes time to play the games and they can't hang with the players who ARE there based on skill then the matches between them will inevitably suck.
Jolkien
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada5 Posts
April 26 2010 15:16 GMT
#1905
I will make my first post on TL.net (yay) just for this. Pretty awesome so far, even if a few matches were less interesting it's really a blast to see the amount of work you two guys have putted up for this.

And I'm sure the next tournaments (emphasis on the S ) Will be even greater. Keep up the good work.
NovAyo
Profile Joined April 2010
9 Posts
April 26 2010 15:39 GMT
#1906
Same time for tonight as yesterday?
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 16:00:44
April 26 2010 15:46 GMT
#1907
It's true that HD & Husky designed the brackets for entertainment value, but why is it decided that this entertainment value did not extend to matching perceived skill levels in most cases? I doubt HD & Husky wanted one-sided games, and while matches like Orb v. Idra, Artosis vs. TLO, and Day9 v. Tasteless were almost certainly done for entertainment purposes, I don't think they expected CauthonLuck v. KawaiiRice, Jinro v. White-Ra, InControl v. Nazgul, and Nony v. Moonglade to be so one-sided. Can you really say, before the matches, that the outcomes between these players were certain? Hell, even now I'm not convinced that some of these matches were truly lop-sided in terms of player skill. From what FA said, his match vs. White-Ra, for example, seemed to have been just a build-order win for White-Ra.

And there have already been some upsets. I don't think most people expected Ret to pull a win from LzGamer, yet he did.

Sure, there were other players they could've invited if they strictly wanted contests of skill. They could've invited Haypro or Demuslim. They could've invited Huk or Sheth or Machine. They could've invited some Korean players like Fruit Seller or Maka. Or better yet they could have not made it an invitational and instead held open qualifiers for all. But given that this is an invitational and they wanted some "known names" who might not have gotten to play, otherwise, I don't think the choice of players and brackets are particularly bad. There's at least a 50-50 split here between "known names" and "current pros," and in terms of brackets, there was at least an attempt to make the "known names" play other "known names" and the "current pros" play other "current pros."
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
April 26 2010 16:03 GMT
#1908
We are currently waiting on Orb vs IdrA, TLO vs Artosis, and Day[9] vs Tasteless to be sent to us.

They are all scheduled to play within the next 24 hours. Once we have those replays we will be posting our next livestream date/time. I fly out of San Fran today so it wont be posted until late tonight/early tomorrow should we get all the replays in time.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 16:11:16
April 26 2010 16:10 GMT
#1909
Some of you guys are forgetting that Battle.net was done the last few days, so some of these players are going into these matches with very little practice. Massing games the night before their match isn't going to help them either.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
April 26 2010 16:11 GMT
#1910
On April 26 2010 23:45 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 21:55 floor exercise wrote:
On April 26 2010 19:05 cuppatea wrote:
Man, there was some really poor play in those first few games, which led to a lot of easy, one sided wins. Can't help but think selecting players based on skill rather than name recognition would have provided a better standard of play and therefore a better quality of games.

That's pretty much always the case with invitational tournaments


Surely the whole point of an invitational is so that players DON'T have an easy ride in the early rounds? That's what seperates them from open tournaments like Zotac.

There are enough elite players out there to fill a 16 man invitational that is competitive and has exciting games from the first round to the last.

Throwing a few celebrity names in there might create some buzz when the tournament is announced but when it comes time to play the games and they can't hang with the players who ARE there based on skill then the matches between them will inevitably suck.


Did you really think this was going to be a super serious tournament to find out the best of the best of the best? Just watch the intro, look at the 3rd place prize logo, and with all due respect, day9/tasteless. It's a fun tournament with big SC1 names/TL SC2 streamers a lot of fans can recognize that just happens to have a really big prize pool. Yes if HDH followed the EuroSC2 scene closer maybe some slight changes could have been made, but I doubt anyone expected the kind of lop-sided, quick games we've seen so far. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that, but the roster has solid players more than capable of providing entertaining matches. The results so far just make the RO8 that much more interesting, so just relax and enjoy the rest of the tournament!

Props to HDH for handling their first tournament very well. They've gone to great lengths to accomodate both the players and the fans. Looking forward to more tournaments by them, I'm sure they'll apply the lessons learned from this one and improve in the future.
Nich
Profile Joined April 2010
397 Posts
April 26 2010 16:22 GMT
#1911
Hey buddy, i haven really played the game, but i do enjoy your commentary & videos. Keep it up!
NiiPPLES
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
April 26 2010 16:26 GMT
#1912
On April 27 2010 01:03 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
We are currently waiting on Orb vs IdrA, TLO vs Artosis, and Day[9] vs Tasteless to be sent to us.

They are all scheduled to play within the next 24 hours. Once we have those replays we will be posting our next livestream date/time. I fly out of San Fran today so it wont be posted until late tonight/early tomorrow should we get all the replays in time.


Easily going to be the best 3 games.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
April 26 2010 16:28 GMT
#1913
I think some of you need to tone it down with the criticism.

Yep I played like shit. I have my excuses but I'm not going to go through them because frankly it doesn't matter. Nazgul was the better player and it showed.

On another day I'd win or give much better games. Vs another opponent same deal. I have no idea why you guys are babbling about "name recognition" when I sit on top of the platinum league each time I play and I do just fine in other tourneys.
Navigator
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada50 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 16:34:50
April 26 2010 16:34 GMT
#1914
On April 27 2010 01:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I think some of you need to tone it down with the criticism.

Yep I played like shit. I have my excuses but I'm not going to go through them because frankly it doesn't matter. Nazgul was the better player and it showed.

On another day I'd win or give much better games. Vs another opponent same deal. I have no idea why you guys are babbling about "name recognition" when I sit on top of the platinum league each time I play and I do just fine in other tourneys.


Winning wouldn't be fun if you never lost a game. You've gotta admit the fashion in which you lost was quite humorous, and maybe you don't see it now because you might still be upset considering the prize pool, but you live and you learn.

$10 says you'll watch the replay a couple weeks down the line and laugh about all of it.

Not to mention you wouldn't get any "criticism" which I don't believe any of it was meant in a harmful manner if you weren't a good, notable player.

It's only beta, there will be many more opportunities to seek vengeance against nazgul, and win as well.

In the end it's no big deal man. Also the thread I made was all in good fun.

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Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
April 26 2010 16:36 GMT
#1915
On April 26 2010 23:45 cuppatea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2010 21:55 floor exercise wrote:
On April 26 2010 19:05 cuppatea wrote:
Man, there was some really poor play in those first few games, which led to a lot of easy, one sided wins. Can't help but think selecting players based on skill rather than name recognition would have provided a better standard of play and therefore a better quality of games.

That's pretty much always the case with invitational tournaments


Surely the whole point of an invitational is so that players DON'T have an easy ride in the early rounds? That's what seperates them from open tournaments like Zotac.

There are enough elite players out there to fill a 16 man invitational that is competitive and has exciting games from the first round to the last.

Throwing a few celebrity names in there might create some buzz when the tournament is announced but when it comes time to play the games and they can't hang with the players who ARE there based on skill then the matches between them will inevitably suck.



Can you please tell me why you think those players have name recognition?

Hint: It's because they're good.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 16:38:39
April 26 2010 16:37 GMT
#1916
iNcontrol -- They're just mad cause they love you so much and hated to see you lose. /hugs
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 26 2010 16:48 GMT
#1917
Idra vs Nony rematch in the semifinals please.
novandaz
Profile Joined April 2010
Turkey10 Posts
April 26 2010 16:52 GMT
#1918
On April 27 2010 01:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I think some of you need to tone it down with the criticism.

Yep I played like shit. I have my excuses but I'm not going to go through them because frankly it doesn't matter. Nazgul was the better player and it showed.

On another day I'd win or give much better games. Vs another opponent same deal. I have no idea why you guys are babbling about "name recognition" when I sit on top of the platinum league each time I play and I do just fine in other tourneys.


respect!
fast expo is fast
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
April 26 2010 16:55 GMT
#1919
I had a great Starcraft Sunday yesterday. Thanks HD & Husky; despite the problems, it was fun to watch. Also thanks to thegunrun & GLHF.tv (also Day[9]).

From what day9 said, I take it that the issue with LiveStream is when you have thousands of viewers, going offline then going back online will cause major issues. I guess Ustream has a different architecture, or since GLHF.tv is online 24/7 they don't have the same problem.

Major props for GLHF & thegunrun for being very professional with the setup. The image overlay was great. I didn't even notice they prepared fake Game 3 files sometimes since I intentionally look away from the screen when they load the replays. Playing music during intermissions is also great. These little things really help with the overall audience experience. GLHF.tv is a great host. Maybe one thing to suggest is to add some overlay text/image that says "x Minutes Intermission - Next game: aaa vs bbb". That will help people who joined in the middle of the intermission period.

The commentaries were also great by HD & Husky. Very entertaining, with little pause or mistakes. I like commentaries that explain how things and strategies work, so not just pointing out what's happening on the screen. Perhaps you guys should mention the sponsor at the beginning of each game, just to make them happy .

I love when the community works together like this. Let people do what they are best at. GLHF at hosting and streaming, HD & Husky at commentating, and Day[9] at being awesome .

Looking forward the next 3 (hopefully) epic matches:
- TLO vs Artosis
- IdrA vs Orb
- Day[9] vs Tasteless!!!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-26 17:03:57
April 26 2010 17:03 GMT
#1920
On April 27 2010 01:48 jalstar wrote:
Idra vs Nony rematch in the semifinals please.


Nony has to get through Nazgul first. Ooh, that's gotta hurt, playing your own teammate and one of the best European Protoss.

As for Idra, he has to get through Orb and Ret.
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