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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2014 22:43 GMT
#1841
On January 21 2014 07:41 Mig wrote:
How was he caught lol. He had 2 votes.


you are asking me to get into his mind which is impossible. Maybe he couldn't handle rayn's hard pressure, who knows. He claimed a PR as a last resort at a time which made zero sense and when that didn't work gave up. thats how I understood it.

If I look at it from your perspective then you should know that anyone trying to save scum before the flip looks incredibad, and is another reason why you might just see the scum team lurking at this point. That would be the situation where oats/skanjab are town and we should look at the people not saying shit right now.
I come in for the scraps
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 20 2014 22:49 GMT
#1842
That is a reasonable point, maybe scum just don't want to risk trying to save him. Certainly happens.

I just find it hard to believe he would martyr right after pulling a huge dt fake claim and then never return. If you are going to plan out a fake claim (his breadcrumbs/talking about millers) are you also going to martyr right after it? Seems like the martyr was an emotional reaction and that is way more common for a townie than mafia.

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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2014 22:54 GMT
#1843
##Vote: Toadesstern

There is no reason not to after these actions. I can get on a Mig/Oats lynch as well.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2014 22:54 GMT
#1844
I agree with you, but he was asked very simple questions and instead of answering them chose to just not play the game. I can't think of a townie reason for that. I didn't want to vote toad but then rayn brought up the fact that thrawn would be a much better base check then hopeless and it was a fair point. Instead of answering it and other questions he simply leaves the thread.
I come in for the scraps
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 20 2014 23:59 GMT
#1845
+ Show Spoiler [last words] +
So last post from me, the PPS-part is probably a TL;DR:

I was fully aware I'm getting myself lynched. I considered it the only possible option left to not auto-lose this on d3 with two consecutive mislynches. Lynching me might be a misslynch and a very dark situation for town to be in but not lynching either me or rayn would have brought us 2 consecutive cycles of bullshit that I considered to be deff-lose for us, the RB was pretty convenient that way (well actually if there was no RB I would have just forced mafia to shoot me but whatever). Also the reason I have refrained from posting. So that's why. [-redacted- I guess I can say that I did ask Dandel about this]
Also I actually felt really bad for Mig in case he's town prior to deadline. I did read that because it was so short before deadline but I really had to force myself to not post, sorry

On top of that, yeah I was emotional and to put this into context I've never been as angry about anyone's play before as this and I've been in games like this:
On February 25 2012 12:15 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 12:14 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 25 2012 12:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 25 2012 12:08 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 25 2012 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 25 2012 11:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 25 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
I feel you Toad; I said the exact same thing about VE earlier.

Generally though if someone is exhibiting both tells I just ignore them until I'm forced to deal with them. BH is nothing but scum and RoL is nothing but lurk so it's easy killings either way.


the sad part here is that I'm not getting out here alive no matter what's going to happen, because it's the very same situation we had in L d1 with Palmar.

If BH flips town and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafa and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me because I was "defending" him.
If BH flips town and I vote him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafia and I vote vote him everyone is going to rant about how I only voteswitched after I had to.

Sad story, isn't it?

However, I'm going to rethink this whole thing when I wake up tomorrow. Should be plenty of time. For now I'm sticking with RoL.

You seem to care an awful lot about how town perceives you

yeah because believe or not, I don't want to be lynched no matter if I rolled mafia or town. Because in both scenarios being lynched is not helping my team.
So what you're telling me is that you successfully figured out I'm not a VI? But that's of course wifom. I could totally be a VI trying to look pro-town to try and look like I don't want to be lynched. That would be so ingenious. Just imagine the faces of the people: "We're totally lynching that pro-town playing guy ololol" and the moment I flip VI they're all like W T F.
+ Show Spoiler +
Just for clarification: Yes parts of this posts were sarcasm and are not meant to be taken seriously
+ Show Spoiler +
it's the second part


if you think BH is scum then vote for him

if you're town you're the last person who would get lynched if he flipped town, the fact that you're worried enough about town perspective on your own guilt to vote based on that openly is highly suspicious

Tell that wbg. He tried to lynch me in L ALL GAME LONG for saying Palmar is town, BC as mayor lynched Palmar d1 and guess what? The guy flipped town. WBG went nuts on me for the reason I stated above and said there's no way I could have possibly get that read if people like him, Supersoft, Jackal (?) and BC all thought Palmar was mafia.

It's all based on a true story dude. I'm not even making this up, that's the sad part here.


stop crying Toad, you're German and your country decimated the Jews, you have no room for sob stories


User was temp banned for this post.
and this:
On February 02 2013 07:55 Toadesstern wrote:
2 Nominations from LIX

1) Vivax for WTF-Award, from BC's TL Mafia LIX
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=104#2071
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=104#2074
into http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393344&currentpage=105#2084

TL;DR Sup guys I'm a DT, it's D2 and I've got a red check on Gonzaw, but let's lynch the mayor (Marv) who succesfully lynched mafia d1 instead because we can just go for the big fish and Gonzaw (red check) already used his joat powers after all. After lynching Marv we should probably lynch Toad, the sheriff who ended up being sheriff with exactly as many votes as my red check Gonzaw, just comming in as second because he had 4 votes sooner. Once those two are dead we can lynch my red check and 5 other guys.

I'm 100% postive, I'd rather play with people like the above than have another game with rayn if he so happens to flip town. I can't believe how furious he made me with constantly sprouting bullshit and constantly being an arrogant dick about it and just not changing it even after having to realize that he's just plain wrong about everything he's saying like the 100% certain lynch on kush, the almost 100% certain lynch on grack and the 100% certain lynch on me, who all flipped town. I just can't believe how someone would be such a dick about it and just not at least drop the insults after that and not just at least for a second go mmmh, wait. Maybe my reads are off atm. I should probably restart this from point 0 instead of just continuing with my other reads like nothing happened
I don't mind if he's calling me a retard once or twice without anything besides it, obviously it's going to make me angry but whatever. But having it happen the entire game and like he said, there wasn't even a case about me no matter how I much I asked for them to just explain it so nothing I could respond to except for thrawns "he feels weird" ... duh thanks... and rayns "he disagree's with me on ska so he's a retard, he mafia". I guess that one post he did that ended up being a bunch of either lies or him forgetting what happened d1 that I replied to is an exception but it was ignored so nothing to be said there.
Obviously, if you're mafia or SK good play despite it being absolutely disgusting.

Btw the exact same thing happened in another game, as I'm sure rayn is aware of, as he does like reading older games. Obviously I flipped town as well.
Btw I even said in pregame that I get emotional about games really quickly and I can't do much about it, heck that's the reason for the long pauses inbetween to cool down... I even got the dramaqueen award for it (and award for best play together with VE I might add, so you can fuck off rayn) for crying out loud.

So no matter what you make of that, please for the love of god don't just sheep the guy who thought kush is a 100% certain lynch to a point that he agreed to let himself get lynched afterwards, grack is an almost 100% certain lynch and I'm an 100% certain lynch. He's either mafia/SK or not to be trusted because he's having the most awful game you could imagine. And in both cases you don't want to trust him with his reads.
Not giving any reads out myself as I honestly haven't read anything ever since the claim to not get tempted to post, so I wouldn't know. So don't just continue like nothing happened, start over from 0 and consider who defended who during all this, there's bound to be information in that.

And again, sorry about this but I really think having it this way is still the better option than having rayn "tunnel" me all throughout d2 and d3 and either have someone sheep him and not even have a chance to lynch mafia, OR just not having a chance to lynch mafia because rayn's town while I'm still alive and it's certainly better than getting lynched without claiming or lynched and claiming 5 minutes prior to deadline. Hooray for getting lynched the 2nd time ever as town in 3 years of mafia and both happened exactly the same way \o/

Ps: I picked hopeless because he's either blue or anti-town and has no chance to be a miller. Kind of a combi solution. I considered other people but like I said, as long as I'm not getting miller I'm good with whatever it returns on n1 and can then decide what to do n2.


PPS: The phrase I probably use the most often in games of mafia is something along the lines of "Sometimes people are just dense. Sometimes you have to lynch a green and shove their dead head into peoples faces to show them how dense they were to stop the ongoing bullshit. It's a sad story but let's lynch XXX [XXX being a green] and win this the next cycle". But I'm sure rayn knows that as well as he has thoroughly researched me. he's that kind of a guy. Sad thing it ended up being me this game. And while this seems like a lose for us it's at least not a 100% certain lose.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 21 2014 00:00 GMT
#1846
Votecount (flip coming in a second)

Toadesstern (6): Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Hopeless1der, Toadesstern, VayneAuthority, Koshi, raynpelinkoneet, Mig, Cephiro
Mig (0): Koshi
Sn0_Man (3): Oatsmaster, Skanjab1s, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Mig
Hopeless1der (0): Skanjab1s
raynpelikoneet (0): Oatsmaster, Toadesstern
Skanjab1s (0): VayneAuthority
Oatsmaster (1): Sn0_Man

Not voting (0):

Toadesstern has been lynched.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 21 2014 00:05 GMT
#1847
Night 2
[image loading]
Not so happy now, fucker



Baby was shoved off the stage by a bunch of bananas!

Toadesstern, as Baby the Parity Cop has been lynched!
+ Show Spoiler [role PM] +
You are Baby! And you're a baby. You like getting spoiled by receiving DOLE™ Bananas from people. At night you can check whether a person would give you a DOLE™ Banana or not.
But because you can't talk, you can only communicate your findings to the others by pointing and making cute sounds, so you'll have to express yourself comparatively. (Choose a player each night, and from the second night of targetting on, you'll recieve alignment results as either "SAME" or "DIFFERENT", nothing more than that. You obviously can not check your own banana-giving properties, that wouldn't make no sense at all.



It is now Night 2, you have 24 hours to send in your nightactions.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#1848
kek I'm done playing, voting Oats/Skanjab, whichever one is more likely to die tomorrow. gg.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 21 2014 00:07 GMT
#1849
What an incredibly dumb line of reasoning toad wow. I would have madr sure you werent lynched ffs. You werent even close to being lynched. Thanks for helping us lose.
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#1850
@Toad: I don't approve of your decision even with the reasoning you gave us. Giving up like that without even trying was bound to lead into your lynch. You were being pressured hard, but you were by no means a certain lynch today, and if you had put proper effort I could have seen us lynching someone else. This way you effectively killed a lot of discussion that could have come up, and due to your behavior today's lynch gives us very little information. I am very disappointed.

@Rest of the town

1 more down, game is getting harder for us but don't give up. We can very well win this, if people don't give up and contribute.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 21 2014 00:12 GMT
#1851
Also shame on all you cows who refused to listen to me. My only solace is that I will hopefully be shot and I wont have to listen to mafia/monkey cephiro and koshi keep calling me scum.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#1852
On January 21 2014 09:12 Mig wrote:
Also shame on all you cows who refused to listen to me. My only solace is that I will hopefully be shot and I wont have to listen to mafia/monkey cephiro and koshi keep calling me scum.

shame on Toad. that is all.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2014 00:15 GMT
#1853
Mig, you've called your suspicion on me quite a few times now. Would you like to actually provide reasons for why I'm scum? You haven't done that a single time. There is very little you've done this game to be honest.

I actually find it much more likely that you're just scum trying to get points for "trying to save Toad" <-- lol, rather than being town and genuinely trying to prevent that lynch.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 21 2014 00:17 GMT
#1854
cephiro if you are town please top being a cow, thank you
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2014 00:18 GMT
#1855
Btw, just so you know, monkeys are town in this game.... if you were town, you'd know better.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2014 00:21 GMT
#1856
I'm not whatever you call "cow". You completely refuse to deal with anything you don't want to. If you were town and genuinely thought I were scum, you would be trying to do something about it. But you aren't. What gives? I find it quite laughable to be honest that your scumread has to ask you to make a case since you go around saying people are mafia and give absolutely no reasoning.

If you want me to believe you are town, then provide me with information and content as I ask, instead of denying my (and many others) requests aimed at you.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 00:23 GMT
#1857
lol
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 21 2014 00:37 GMT
#1858
I think I will just delete martyring from my huge scum tells for this website, works great in mafia in general but martyring as town is too common here.

didn't read the toad essay but I assume if he posted that an hour earlier he probably wouldnt be lynched
I come in for the scraps
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 21 2014 01:20 GMT
#1859
The game is very close to over now and if 2 townies die tonight then it is 99.9% over. If anyone thinks that I as mafia would have jeopardized that by trying to save the town cop 1.5 hours before lynch just for some town cred you are insane.

Since you simply ignore this fact cephiro it means you are either mafia or you have the playing ability of a bag of dirty socks. I don't really know which is the case unfortunately.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
January 21 2014 01:22 GMT
#1860
If there is an SK out there, you have to shoot mafia tonight to have any shot at winning. I would probably suggest shooting Sno.
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