The TL Hacker Database! - Page 9

On October 03 2010 00:26 Corinthos wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : Corinthos
Hacker Name : Vis
Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?l1o0sfcc9weicq8
Description : Dropped me as soon as I surround his zealots and kill the remaining stalker inside my base. I had a banshee and a 2nd one coming out still with several marines. Supply count is around the same, even or > than his.
He did an all in 4 gate warp build and drop hacked me.

Obvious things to note :
was able to re-connect to battle.net immediately
was still on vent and msn
internet was fine

On October 03 2010 00:37 petergibbons wrote:


B.net 2.0 is still buggy. I got dropped after I defended a 6 pool earlier this morning and would have called the zerg I was playing out for drop hacks but I decided not to since you can't tell if someone's drop hacking with a sample size of 1. I whispered him asking if he got dropped and he just told me that it had appeared as if I had left. I just congratulated him on his free points (not sarcastically), shrugged my shoulders and moved along. Yeah, it sucked, but there's nothing you can do, and you certainly can't anyone a drop hacker without very good evidence.

edit: here's the lovely conversation we had after that game.

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On October 03 2010 00:37 petergibbons wrote:


B.net 2.0 is still buggy. I got dropped after I defended a 6 pool earlier this morning and would have called the zerg I was playing out for drop hacks but I decided not to since you can't tell if someone's drop hacking with a sample size of 1. I whispered him asking if he got dropped and he just told me that it had appeared as if I had left. I just congratulated him on his free points (not sarcastically), shrugged my shoulders and moved along. Yeah, it sucked, but there's nothing you can do, and you certainly can't anyone a drop hacker without very good evidence.

edit: here's the lovely conversation we had after that game.

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On October 05 2010 03:24 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
That looks really bad Corinthos. Getting dropped at an inopportune time is certainly not grounds for insta-hack blame...

On October 05 2010 19:53 zomgtossrush wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : ZomgTossRush
Hacker Name : KeepSeven
Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87929-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns
Description : The entire 22 minute game, has the perfect unit counters, yet never once scouts. Not once. Not scv scout, no xel naga hold, no scans. As in, at the end of the game, his minimap doesnt even show a peice of my creep. Yet has the perfect counter to all my attacks. And the fact that he doesnt quickly respond to my multiprong attacks, isn't evidence of not hacking, i really think he just is that bad. Considering his build order, terrible que'ing etc.

On October 06 2010 06:04 Aim Here wrote:


There's no evidence of hacking here either. There's no sign of maphacking (he only looks into the fog to move units there), so we're talking about some hypothetical hack that lets you see the enemy's unit production or something, if any.

His 'perfect counter' to 'all your attacks' consists of
1) Making marines and putting them into bunkers at his nat. Bunkered marines are a passable and standard defence to attacks from most early game units, let's face it, so if a terran plans to turtle, why on earth wouldn't he do that? You try running by with roaches and he perfectly counters by sending rines out of his bunker and then pulling workers to finish your roaches off when the rines get the crap kicked out of them. Just the way he planned it, no doubt.
2) Making two Thors that mildly hurt your mutalisks. He started making the second well after he saw the mutas. so he didn't even need to be sentient to keep making them after the first, and, umm, isn't making mutalisks a standard thing that Zergs do, and doesn't Thor do pretty well against those AND a lot of other Zerg units. I'd have thought any standard Terran ground army would have a couple of either Thors or tanks in support, and he picked Thors, possibly in part because any half-awake Starcraft player anticipates mid-game mutalisks when playing against Zerg.
3) Supporting a marine ball with a couple Thors and running them out of his base to get all the marines swiftly exterminated by your banelings, then running back home to lick his wounds. That's not MY idea of a perfect counter. Is it really yours?
4) Beating up on a standard mix of roach/ling coming out of a nydus in a conga line with his very standard mix of terran units. Ummmm ....
then
5) Going out of his base with a mix of Marine/marauder/Medivac/Thor and beating up on anything he meets until you gg.

What part of that isn't just normal play from any still-breathing silver-level Terran? He was quite bad, he didn't scout, he just did standard cookie-cutter newbie-style play, and he still beat you. End of story. There's no need to invoke hacks to explain anything that went on in that game.

You do really need strong evidence before you accuse people of hacking. This replay doesn't even qualify as flimsy evidence. I can't see anything here that's out of the ordinary from any random bad player.

On October 06 2010 14:37 zomgtossrush wrote:

I guess I can conclude, that this is proof for me, that terran is imbalanced vs zerg, or this guy is hacking. I can't fathom a high level diamond player being able to win without ever scouting.

On October 06 2010 19:04 Aim Here wrote:


Another possibility is that a high level diamond let a lower level player try out his account for this game.

On October 06 2010 14:37 zomgtossrush wrote:


Thank for your input.

I guess my suspicion arises since at my play level, i have never see someone never scout. I expect that in the goldish leagues, but not when i'm around a 1500 random player. I expect players to scout, and then adjust, not just blindly make units, as he did this game. You show me a player who is above1 k elo and never scout at any point in any game, then I'll never post on this thread again.

I guess I can conclude, that this is proof for me, that terran is imbalanced vs zerg, or this guy is hacking. I can't fathom a high level diamond player being able to win without ever scouting.

On October 05 2010 20:12 arb wrote:

Uh, how about you take this out of thet hread before i contact plexa or JWD and get bans brought down, this isnt for arguing over corinthos bming some other dude or whatever

EDIT : also fairly sure i have every report on pages 1-7 except jaeger, who ill watch in a moment. and ill try to get some of the ones on this page also

On October 07 2010 10:48 zomgtossrush wrote:
Realm : North America
Your name : ZomgTossRush
Hacker Name : KeepSeven (again)
Replay:http://www.mediafire.com/?lepofxzsj87qpzf

at exactly 1:12-1:15, he looks through the fog of war and sneaks a peek at my overlord(keep in mind im random). He moves just out of range, then catches a glimpse of the overlord shadow, as if he is trying to hide it. Play around with the vision and camera and you'll see what i mean.

Then right before he moves out, he clicks over to my natural, without ever scouting. Which is i guess understandable, since he actually just a moves over. But considering the 2 games i have played against him, its probably him just checking my spine crawler timing.