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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
Your name : Corinthos Hacker Name : Vis Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?l1o0sfcc9weicq8 Description : Dropped me as soon as I surround his zealots and kill the remaining stalker inside my base. I had a banshee and a 2nd one coming out still with several marines. Supply count is around the same, even or > than his. He did an all in 4 gate warp build and drop hacked me. Obvious things to note : was able to re-connect to battle.net immediately was still on vent and msn internet was fine | ||
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pyaar
United States423 Posts
On October 03 2010 00:26 Corinthos wrote: Realm : North America Your name : Corinthos Hacker Name : Vis Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?l1o0sfcc9weicq8 Description : Dropped me as soon as I surround his zealots and kill the remaining stalker inside my base. I had a banshee and a 2nd one coming out still with several marines. Supply count is around the same, even or > than his. He did an all in 4 gate warp build and drop hacked me. Obvious things to note : was able to re-connect to battle.net immediately was still on vent and msn internet was fine B.net 2.0 is still buggy. I got dropped after I defended a 6 pool earlier this morning and would have called the zerg I was playing out for drop hacks but I decided not to since you can't tell if someone's drop hacking with a sample size of 1. I whispered him asking if he got dropped and he just told me that it had appeared as if I had left. I just congratulated him on his free points (not sarcastically), shrugged my shoulders and moved along. Yeah, it sucked, but there's nothing you can do, and you certainly can't anyone a drop hacker without very good evidence. edit: here's the lovely conversation we had after that game. + Show Spoiler + Corinthos: reporting you for drop hack Corinthos has reconnected. Corinthos: what a lame noob You: lol sorry dude 4gate is too strong Corinthos: you dropped me You: ? Corinthos: using a hack You: no i didnt Corinthos: i defended it yes it dropped me out of battle.net You: if you say so Corinthos: nothing else disconnect still on vent still on msn very funny You: i got disconnected earlier too it's b.net duude Corinthos: what a trash hacker You: report me Corinthos: yeah how come no noe else dc right when i trap your zealot and kill your stalker i drop ? very funny trash You: lol boohoo Corinthos: haha pathetic there goes your $60 trash hacker You: you got me bro im a hacker Corinthos: np posting the game on tl You: k which section so i can see ? Corinthos: ill link you in 2 min You: k ty Corinthos: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244¤tpage=9#161 Corinthos has reconnected. You: thank you | ||
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
On October 03 2010 00:37 petergibbons wrote: B.net 2.0 is still buggy. I got dropped after I defended a 6 pool earlier this morning and would have called the zerg I was playing out for drop hacks but I decided not to since you can't tell if someone's drop hacking with a sample size of 1. I whispered him asking if he got dropped and he just told me that it had appeared as if I had left. I just congratulated him on his free points (not sarcastically), shrugged my shoulders and moved along. Yeah, it sucked, but there's nothing you can do, and you certainly can't anyone a drop hacker without very good evidence. edit: here's the lovely conversation we had after that game. + Show Spoiler + Corinthos: reporting you for drop hack Corinthos has reconnected. Corinthos: what a lame noob You: lol sorry dude 4gate is too strong Corinthos: you dropped me You: ? Corinthos: using a hack You: no i didnt Corinthos: i defended it yes it dropped me out of battle.net You: if you say so Corinthos: nothing else disconnect still on vent still on msn very funny You: i got disconnected earlier too it's b.net duude Corinthos: what a trash hacker You: report me Corinthos: yeah how come no noe else dc right when i trap your zealot and kill your stalker i drop ? very funny trash You: lol boohoo Corinthos: haha pathetic there goes your $60 trash hacker You: you got me bro im a hacker Corinthos: np posting the game on tl You: k which section so i can see ? Corinthos: ill link you in 2 min You: k ty Corinthos: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244¤tpage=9#161 Corinthos has reconnected. You: thank you ? So you post a log of me being mad after you dropped hacked me. No where in your reply did you respond to what I stated before the drop happened. What is your reason of post? You are the better man because you handled it differently? If you think that opponent hacked then why not post that replay. The sample size of 1 is a ridiculous counter, the purpose of this thread is to report. | ||
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Cataphract
United States69 Posts
Your name : Cataphract Hacker Name : Jcizzler Replay : http://www.mediafire.com/?0gdt89ixatwdcex Description : 8 Rax 9 Refinery build for reapers. I was able to stop it after losing like 10 probes. Obvious things to note : Set his barrack rally point just outside my base without scouting on Lost Temple. Only used scan to gain vision of the high ground before he attacked. | ||
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Hister
United States89 Posts
Your name : Hister.526 Hacker Name : ssamjang.390 Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87293-1v1-terran-zerg-blistering-sands#rd:undefined;markup Description : I usually don't report hackers but this 1500 point diamond hacker went to far cutting off zerglings scouts with marines by running across map looking at my base in fog dozens of times never scanning juking my units with his drop ships across map and even running away from me in my own base was just such a obvious hack. Obvious things to note : Never scanned me once, cuts off my zergling scouts he sent units at bottom of the map to the top prefect timing. You can just tell hes hacking the 2 major hacking points that won the game for him though were the drop ships juking me no vision of my units and his mass mmm tank ball kept going back and froth dodging me with out vision between my ramp and expo was just to prefect for a scrub like him. | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
Your name : Swiminzerg & Wowsukz Hacker Names : Antimatter.628 & Jigzaw.302 Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87759-2v2-protoss-zerg-tempest Description : PP v ZZ on Tempest, they rush lings without scouting. So I check replay and see one of them rally his hatch to our base even before building his pool or any form of scouting. Jigzaw even follows our probes that go build our initial pilons, i.e. looking at us through FOW | ||
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SoLaR[i.C]
United States2969 Posts
On October 03 2010 00:37 petergibbons wrote: That looks really bad Corinthos. Getting dropped at an inopportune time is certainly not grounds for insta-hack blame...B.net 2.0 is still buggy. I got dropped after I defended a 6 pool earlier this morning and would have called the zerg I was playing out for drop hacks but I decided not to since you can't tell if someone's drop hacking with a sample size of 1. I whispered him asking if he got dropped and he just told me that it had appeared as if I had left. I just congratulated him on his free points (not sarcastically), shrugged my shoulders and moved along. Yeah, it sucked, but there's nothing you can do, and you certainly can't anyone a drop hacker without very good evidence. edit: here's the lovely conversation we had after that game. + Show Spoiler + Corinthos: reporting you for drop hack Corinthos has reconnected. Corinthos: what a lame noob You: lol sorry dude 4gate is too strong Corinthos: you dropped me You: ? Corinthos: using a hack You: no i didnt Corinthos: i defended it yes it dropped me out of battle.net You: if you say so Corinthos: nothing else disconnect still on vent still on msn very funny You: i got disconnected earlier too it's b.net duude Corinthos: what a trash hacker You: report me Corinthos: yeah how come no noe else dc right when i trap your zealot and kill your stalker i drop ? very funny trash You: lol boohoo Corinthos: haha pathetic there goes your $60 trash hacker You: you got me bro im a hacker Corinthos: np posting the game on tl You: k which section so i can see ? Corinthos: ill link you in 2 min You: k ty Corinthos: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151244¤tpage=9#161 Corinthos has reconnected. You: thank you | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Sometimes you get REALLY lucky and spot the haze moving in to your mineral line before they attack and if you are fast enough can scan, or you can be like me and mean to scan your opponent as you leave your base and actually scan yourself revealing his DT's and causing him to gg ;p rare examples but they do happen | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : KeepSeven Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87929-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns Description : The entire 22 minute game, has the perfect unit counters, yet never once scouts. Not once. Not scv scout, no xel naga hold, no scans. As in, at the end of the game, his minimap doesnt even show a peice of my creep. Yet has the perfect counter to all my attacks. And the fact that he doesnt quickly respond to my multiprong attacks, isn't evidence of not hacking, i really think he just is that bad. Considering his build order, terrible que'ing etc. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On October 05 2010 03:24 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: That looks really bad Corinthos. Getting dropped at an inopportune time is certainly not grounds for insta-hack blame... Uh, how about you take this out of thet hread before i contact plexa or JWD and get bans brought down, this isnt for arguing over corinthos bming some other dude or whatever EDIT : also fairly sure i have every report on pages 1-7 except jaeger, who ill watch in a moment. and ill try to get some of the ones on this page also | ||
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On October 05 2010 19:53 zomgtossrush wrote: Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : KeepSeven Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/87929-1v1-terran-zerg-xelnaga-caverns Description : The entire 22 minute game, has the perfect unit counters, yet never once scouts. Not once. Not scv scout, no xel naga hold, no scans. As in, at the end of the game, his minimap doesnt even show a peice of my creep. Yet has the perfect counter to all my attacks. And the fact that he doesnt quickly respond to my multiprong attacks, isn't evidence of not hacking, i really think he just is that bad. Considering his build order, terrible que'ing etc. There's no evidence of hacking here either. There's no sign of maphacking (he only looks into the fog to move units there), so we're talking about some hypothetical hack that lets you see the enemy's unit production or something, if any. His 'perfect counter' to 'all your attacks' consists of 1) Making marines and putting them into bunkers at his nat. Bunkered marines are a passable and standard defence to attacks from most early game units, let's face it, so if a terran plans to turtle, why on earth wouldn't he do that? You try running by with roaches and he perfectly counters by sending rines out of his bunker and then pulling workers to finish your roaches off when the rines get the crap kicked out of them. Just the way he planned it, no doubt. 2) Making two Thors that mildly hurt your mutalisks. He started making the second well after he saw the mutas. so he didn't even need to be sentient to keep making them after the first, and, umm, isn't making mutalisks a standard thing that Zergs do, and doesn't Thor do pretty well against those AND a lot of other Zerg units. I'd have thought any standard Terran ground army would have a couple of either Thors or tanks in support, and he picked Thors, possibly in part because any half-awake Starcraft player anticipates mid-game mutalisks when playing against Zerg. 3) Supporting a marine ball with a couple Thors and running them out of his base to get all the marines swiftly exterminated by your banelings, then running back home to lick his wounds. That's not MY idea of a perfect counter. Is it really yours? 4) Beating up on a standard mix of roach/ling coming out of a nydus in a conga line with his very standard mix of terran units. Ummmm .... then 5) Going out of his base with a mix of Marine/marauder/Medivac/Thor and beating up on anything he meets until you gg. What part of that isn't just normal play from any still-breathing silver-level Terran? He was quite bad, he didn't scout, he just did standard cookie-cutter newbie-style play, and he still beat you. End of story. There's no need to invoke hacks to explain anything that went on in that game. You do really need strong evidence before you accuse people of hacking. This replay doesn't even qualify as flimsy evidence. I can't see anything here that's out of the ordinary from any random bad player. | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
On October 06 2010 06:04 Aim Here wrote: There's no evidence of hacking here either. There's no sign of maphacking (he only looks into the fog to move units there), so we're talking about some hypothetical hack that lets you see the enemy's unit production or something, if any. His 'perfect counter' to 'all your attacks' consists of 1) Making marines and putting them into bunkers at his nat. Bunkered marines are a passable and standard defence to attacks from most early game units, let's face it, so if a terran plans to turtle, why on earth wouldn't he do that? You try running by with roaches and he perfectly counters by sending rines out of his bunker and then pulling workers to finish your roaches off when the rines get the crap kicked out of them. Just the way he planned it, no doubt. 2) Making two Thors that mildly hurt your mutalisks. He started making the second well after he saw the mutas. so he didn't even need to be sentient to keep making them after the first, and, umm, isn't making mutalisks a standard thing that Zergs do, and doesn't Thor do pretty well against those AND a lot of other Zerg units. I'd have thought any standard Terran ground army would have a couple of either Thors or tanks in support, and he picked Thors, possibly in part because any half-awake Starcraft player anticipates mid-game mutalisks when playing against Zerg. 3) Supporting a marine ball with a couple Thors and running them out of his base to get all the marines swiftly exterminated by your banelings, then running back home to lick his wounds. That's not MY idea of a perfect counter. Is it really yours? 4) Beating up on a standard mix of roach/ling coming out of a nydus in a conga line with his very standard mix of terran units. Ummmm .... then 5) Going out of his base with a mix of Marine/marauder/Medivac/Thor and beating up on anything he meets until you gg. What part of that isn't just normal play from any still-breathing silver-level Terran? He was quite bad, he didn't scout, he just did standard cookie-cutter newbie-style play, and he still beat you. End of story. There's no need to invoke hacks to explain anything that went on in that game. You do really need strong evidence before you accuse people of hacking. This replay doesn't even qualify as flimsy evidence. I can't see anything here that's out of the ordinary from any random bad player. Thank for your input. I guess my suspicion arises since at my play level, i have never see someone never scout. I expect that in the goldish leagues, but not when i'm around a 1500 random player. I expect players to scout, and then adjust, not just blindly make units, as he did this game. You show me a player who is above1 k elo and never scout at any point in any game, then I'll never post on this thread again. I guess I can conclude, that this is proof for me, that terran is imbalanced vs zerg, or this guy is hacking. I can't fathom a high level diamond player being able to win without ever scouting. | ||
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On October 06 2010 14:37 zomgtossrush wrote: I guess I can conclude, that this is proof for me, that terran is imbalanced vs zerg, or this guy is hacking. I can't fathom a high level diamond player being able to win without ever scouting. Another possibility is that a high level diamond let a lower level player try out his account for this game. | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On October 06 2010 19:04 Aim Here wrote: Another possibility is that a high level diamond let a lower level player try out his account for this game. and that lower level player beat a diamond level zerg. Could be possible with the diamond player standing behind him telling him what to do (like building supply depots/adding barracks) | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On October 06 2010 14:37 zomgtossrush wrote: Thank for your input. I guess my suspicion arises since at my play level, i have never see someone never scout. I expect that in the goldish leagues, but not when i'm around a 1500 random player. I expect players to scout, and then adjust, not just blindly make units, as he did this game. You show me a player who is above1 k elo and never scout at any point in any game, then I'll never post on this thread again. I guess I can conclude, that this is proof for me, that terran is imbalanced vs zerg, or this guy is hacking. I can't fathom a high level diamond player being able to win without ever scouting. Perhaps you should just watch your replays more than 1 time, before you jump on the OMG I LOST HES HACKING thing youve done the past 3? 4? replays youve uploaded. Just my suggestion | ||
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ZomgTossRush
United States1041 Posts
Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : KeepSeven (again) Replay:http://www.mediafire.com/?lepofxzsj87qpzf at exactly 1:12-1:15, he looks through the fog of war and sneaks a peek at my overlord(keep in mind im random). He moves just out of range, then catches a glimpse of the overlord shadow, as if he is trying to hide it. Play around with the vision and camera and you'll see what i mean. Then right before he moves out, he clicks over to my natural, without ever scouting. Which is i guess understandable, since he actually just a moves over. But considering the 2 games i have played against him, its probably him just checking my spine crawler timing. | ||
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Buddhist
United States658 Posts
On October 05 2010 20:12 arb wrote: Uh, how about you take this out of thet hread before i contact plexa or JWD and get bans brought down, this isnt for arguing over corinthos bming some other dude or whatever EDIT : also fairly sure i have every report on pages 1-7 except jaeger, who ill watch in a moment. and ill try to get some of the ones on this page also I don't understand what you mean. Isn't this thread open to discussion on whether or not there is actually evidence for hacking occurring? I agree with Solar. Getting dropped at an inopportune time is not necessarily evidence of hacking. I got dropped the other day just before I pushed into my opponent's base for the kill. I thought for sure I was about to win, and watching the replay I think so too, but there's also no way the enemy knew he was about to lose, and no reason for him to drop me at that time. Then I got dropped playing a UMS game abruptly the same way. It's clearly just B.Net. Although, it's so abrupt and seemingly arbitrary, I can see how you might get fairly convinced that it was a drop hack, if you were just then in a commanding position in the game. | ||
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midgettoes
Australia180 Posts
On October 07 2010 10:48 zomgtossrush wrote: Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : KeepSeven (again) Replay:http://www.mediafire.com/?lepofxzsj87qpzf at exactly 1:12-1:15, he looks through the fog of war and sneaks a peek at my overlord(keep in mind im random). He moves just out of range, then catches a glimpse of the overlord shadow, as if he is trying to hide it. Play around with the vision and camera and you'll see what i mean. Then right before he moves out, he clicks over to my natural, without ever scouting. Which is i guess understandable, since he actually just a moves over. But considering the 2 games i have played against him, its probably him just checking my spine crawler timing. He didn't "just catch a glimpse" if he's on widescreen. I noticed your full overlord when I checked. However, more importantly, if he was maphacking and you get zerg, he would see the creep on his map anyway and know exactly what race you are. Or he would see a bloody big blob floating out and know it's an overlord. This is all you have to support that this guy is "hacking" - at no other point does he suspiciously look at your base. It sounds to me that you are just hurt that you lost to some Terran you assume is a noob twice. You are a very untrusting person, and the things you are accusing this player of are quite extreme really. I would be a lot more careful about jumping on the "OMG MAPHACK" train... Furthermore, at 3:18 you do the same thing you "accuse" him of. So are you maphacking? Probably not, so stop reporting pointless things. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Also, take ZOMGtossrush as a warning, dont post obviously fake replays in this thread, one is bad but posting what 5? times is just stupid. Also as drophacks are hard to confirm with the fact that bnet 2.0 is kinda..shitty, try to avoid posting those aswell, unless they are mapping or somethinglike that(basically idk how you would prove them) | ||
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