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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
February 20 2013 00:58 GMT
#1701
Regarding my claim: I knew I was short on time to find a way to deal with it, so I was looking for an SK guide to little result (my google-fu is bad). I actually had a lead on how to play as SK from a previous conversation that I completely spaced on until I was reminded once it was too late. I didn't want to delay my response for too long so I threw the first thing that came to mind into the thread (VIG) and, well, you saw how well that ended. Live, lynch, learn!
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17991 Posts
February 20 2013 01:06 GMT
#1702
Oh, with all that, I forgot to say the most important: thanks for playing and I hope you enjoyed it!

I'm glad to hear you guys liked the flavour. It was fun to do too!
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
February 20 2013 01:08 GMT
#1703
Lol greatest scum plan of all time. I would have let you live OO would have been so fun.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17991 Posts
February 20 2013 01:08 GMT
#1704
Also, Kita pm'd me that there isn't a host for the next newbie available I can set it up, but I will be gone for the next 2 weekends. If there's a cohost available for the weekend, I'll set up another game. Don't have time to work out a setup, so it'll be more standard
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:09 GMT
#1705
Acrofales thanks for the note.. Great read and I agree on many all points.

And agree, cora case *SHOULD* have been released - and a town Mocsta woulda said let it come out; scum Mocsta said dont do it!!! (with Arnie voice-over)
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 20 2013 01:10 GMT
#1706
On February 20 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
Acrofales thanks for the note.. Great read and I agree on many all points.

And agree, cora case *SHOULD* have been released - and a town Mocsta woulda said let it come out; scum Mocsta said dont do it!!! (with Arnie voice-over)


The case was on Zare.

I said it before I looked at his filter, and I started to write up a case, but I didn't find enough conclusive evidence.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:11 GMT
#1707
On February 20 2013 10:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Lol greatest scum plan of all time. I would have let you live OO would have been so fun.

In fairness; we were just mulling over possiblities.

I dont think it actually would have transpired;
it was like a plan b

If you cant be arsed reading the QT.
it involved "submitting no KP" and claiming I was shot to fake a veteran claim
& bussing mandalor because he was AFK

But yes, I was still happy VE shat on the idea; was a good reality check.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:15 GMT
#1708
On February 20 2013 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Kita pm'd me that there isn't a host for the next newbie available I can set it up, but I will be gone for the next 2 weekends. If there's a cohost available for the weekend, I'll set up another game. Don't have time to work out a setup, so it'll be more standard

Im taking a break from playing; so I could co-host if needed.

Is it just vote count + maybe writing flavour?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:16 GMT
#1709
On February 20 2013 10:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
Acrofales thanks for the note.. Great read and I agree on many all points.

And agree, cora case *SHOULD* have been released - and a town Mocsta woulda said let it come out; scum Mocsta said dont do it!!! (with Arnie voice-over)


The case was on Zare.

I said it before I looked at his filter, and I started to write up a case, but I didn't find enough conclusive evidence.

IIRC in-game, you suggested you had a case ready to unload.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 20 2013 01:16 GMT
#1710
On February 20 2013 10:11 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 10:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Lol greatest scum plan of all time. I would have let you live OO would have been so fun.

In fairness; we were just mulling over possiblities.

I dont think it actually would have transpired;
it was like a plan b

If you cant be arsed reading the QT.
it involved "submitting no KP" and claiming I was shot to fake a veteran claim
& bussing mandalor because he was AFK

But yes, I was still happy VE shat on the idea; was a good reality check.


Dammit VE that would've been the scum basically committing suicide.

Mocsta didn't have crumbs, I did. T.T

Oh well.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
February 20 2013 01:17 GMT
#1711
On February 20 2013 10:16 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 10:10 cDgCorazon wrote:
On February 20 2013 10:09 Mocsta wrote:
Acrofales thanks for the note.. Great read and I agree on many all points.

And agree, cora case *SHOULD* have been released - and a town Mocsta woulda said let it come out; scum Mocsta said dont do it!!! (with Arnie voice-over)


The case was on Zare.

I said it before I looked at his filter, and I started to write up a case, but I didn't find enough conclusive evidence.

IIRC in-game, you suggested you had a case ready to unload.


I meant "I was going to make a case".
Grubby's #1 Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:28 GMT
#1712
On February 20 2013 10:16 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2013 10:11 Mocsta wrote:
On February 20 2013 10:08 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Lol greatest scum plan of all time. I would have let you live OO would have been so fun.

In fairness; we were just mulling over possiblities.

I dont think it actually would have transpired;
it was like a plan b

If you cant be arsed reading the QT.
it involved "submitting no KP" and claiming I was shot to fake a veteran claim
& bussing mandalor because he was AFK

But yes, I was still happy VE shat on the idea; was a good reality check.


Dammit VE that would've been the scum basically committing suicide.

Mocsta didn't have crumbs, I did. T.T

Oh well.

I actually crumbed JK lolz
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 01:29:58
February 20 2013 01:29 GMT
#1713
I can write flavour ^^ (it would be the strangest most poorly written flavour yet) but it would be flavour
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 01:45 GMT
#1714
In regards to Acro final points; I have to say
that was one of the biggest lessons I learnt in my second newbie (34)
Ironically with Sylencia as scum!!!

It was 4 ppl left: me (confirmed town), zarepath (confirmed town), jampidampi & Sylencia.
I had a town read on Sylencia, and scum read on jampidampi.

The entire cycle, I just hammered the shit out of jampidampi with my confirmation bias; and played a large component in losing the game.

The point: When someone is a clear front runner for a lynch; you *NEED* to question what *IS NOT* being questioned.
Sounds easy and intuitive; but most often we feed our own confirmation bias, and forget to figure out what is actually missing...
Case in point: this Sylencia lynch.
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 02:00:03
February 20 2013 01:59 GMT
#1715
Cora: Why were you trying so hard to discredit me? Its not the end of the world to be suspicious, but the more you refused to scumhunt and spend effort hating on me, the more I thought there was no way you were town.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
February 20 2013 02:00 GMT
#1716
Question what isn't being questioned... or in other words lynch whoever is most town in the game trust me it works.

I have a sudden urge to want to write flavour but I feel my flavour would be along the same lines and quality as Axlegreasers posts...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 02:11 GMT
#1717
On February 20 2013 11:00 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I have a sudden urge to want to write flavour but I feel my flavour would be along the same lines and quality as Axlegreasers posts...

Beat you to it Dear

On February 20 2013 10:15 Mocsta wrote:
Im taking a break from playing; so I could co-host if needed.

Is it just vote count + maybe writing flavour?


Perhaps our forces can unite.

I have the Mocsta effect; you have the strangest of love; together, they combine into.... <AWESOME flavour>
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 20 2013 02:19 GMT
#1718
On February 20 2013 10:59 TestSubject893 wrote:
Cora: Why were you trying so hard to discredit me? Its not the end of the world to be suspicious, but the more you refused to scumhunt and spend effort hating on me, the more I thought there was no way you were town.

I will let him answer this for himself; but my 2c from recollection.

<just note, I was privy to knowing you were both town>
I thought corazon could have responded to you less harshly; but i could see his point of view.
I knew you were both town and thought you were wasting your time on him; and thus, wasting the influence options of being confirmed town.

With that in mind; corazon expressed -quite vivdly- the same mentality.. why are you wasting time on "me" go hunt real scum.
Because his knowledge was that he was town, and 'knew' it was a waste of time; and probably auto-assume everyone thought the same.

I said this in one of my recent games (non-newbie) where some one kept beating the same drum over and over again; and think it applies here.
On February 07 2013 14:48 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 14:39 Djodref wrote:
(1) -You have failed to properly address my point against you multiple time, you answers are deliberately missing the fact that your attacks against Oats were unjustified from a town point of view. You attack someone if you think he is scum, not to have a feud because you have different ways of playing the game nor giving hints on his scum meta.

I learnt my lesson yesterday and am walking away from this as of now.

I have answered the question(s) at hand several times to multiple parties; its simple, you do not like my answers.
However you are making zero effort to manifest your question with a different approach.
i.e. You keep asking the same question, I keep giving the same answer.

Either:
  • Lead with a case and a vote, or;
  • accept what I am saying and move on.
The choice is that simple.

I am saying this because, I see this sequence of events on TL Mafia a lot (even though I am relatively new)

corazon made no real effort to be pleasant, effectively pissing you off to tunnel him more.
And you made no effort to paraphrase and consider there was a misunderstanding (which is generally the simplest solution)
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 20 2013 02:37 GMT
#1719
On February 20 2013 10:08 Acrofales wrote:
Also, Kita pm'd me that there isn't a host for the next newbie available I can set it up, but I will be gone for the next 2 weekends. If there's a cohost available for the weekend, I'll set up another game. Don't have time to work out a setup, so it'll be more standard

I'd offer to help but I want to play in the next newbie
Maybe make a post in the list thread asking about?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 20 2013 02:48 GMT
#1720
Oooh, nice write-up.

Taking the two posts in the host qt that had serious content and ignoring the multitude of those that were just us making fun of people.
okay, i fess up.
ME making fun of people.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
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