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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 21 2011 23:52 GMT
#1681
On November 22 2011 08:15 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
1. Whoever replaced chaoser should probably die. Chaoser was scummy enough that I don't care who replaces him. He should die.


Show nested quote +
##Vote: MrZentor
Just in case.


Show nested quote +
You mafia guys already got prplhz lynched


Great, I come into the game as the most suspicious person here!
As surprising as it is, Chaos is not mafia; I am not mafia.
There really isn't much I can do to defend myself besides revealing my role, so until I am pressed further by more votes, I will leave it at that.


So you're actually conceding that you are not vanilla town?

Goddamnit I was fucking right.
Computer says mafia
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 21 2011 23:53 GMT
#1682
Regarding the medic protect stuff, I tried asking this
If a player is shot but medic protected, does the player that was shot get informed, is the medic informed, or are both of them informed? The OP specifies that people with multiple night-lives will be informed when they are shot, but seems unclear on whether or not that includes medic-protects.
about it as soon as Palmar claimed he was hit and got this answer back:
The information in the OP is the only public information that is available with regards with what you're asking.


@Tyrran
I have NOT taken any hits last night ( to be more precise, i did not receive any PM). This means I have probably been rolechecked. I'm not sure that roleblock count as a visit (locking the cabin see Sinani206 role description), so it is also possible that i've been framed.
From the OP regarding if roleblocks generate visits and whatnot:
Any ability that requires a player to pick (a) target(s) at night, including the mafia night kill(s), will generate a visit that watcher or tracker abilities can detect, unless the ability explicitly states otherwise.
Roleblock would generate a visit.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#1683
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.
I can already see the ending
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#1684
good god you guys are a bunch of ...

-___-
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 22 2011 00:02 GMT
#1685
On November 22 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
good god you guys are a bunch of ...

-___-


WBG, to repeat the question that was lost a page back, do you think we should still lynch nisani with prp's post-mortem blue claim? what makes him different now than sinani and prp?
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#1686
On November 22 2011 08:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
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On November 22 2011 08:35 Tyrran wrote:
With 1 ( possibly 2) mafia kill during nigth 2, we will have to be EXTREMELY careful during the vote of day 3 ( coagulation, Sabin010, xsksc and even Lanaia : I'm looking directly at you rigth now). I think the correct move would be to have a group of confirmed town to lead the votes. That would be a good way to make sure that mafia doesnt decide the lynch.


Confirmed town doesn't mean correct opinion. Yes you know the confirmed townies are town, but don't fall to the temptation to start playing a game of follow the blues. Confirmed townies don't always get it right, especially if people kick their action down a notch.
Agreed. Even as confirmed Townies, I don´t have high hopes that the Masons can lead us to victory.

On November 22 2011 08:48 GreYMisT wrote:
Guys we are running out of time to make intelligent decisions. what are everyone's thoughts, disregarding prplhz (too much WIFOM potential)
MrZentor, Coagulation and DCLXVI are good candidates for a lynch, but I wouldn´t mind stopping here, and see how prplhz flips. I don´t have high hopes that we can get a good case AND 7 votes in time, so probably best to stop here.
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 00:07 GMT
#1687
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.


I don't think we have 3 medics.

I don't think you actually cared when you voted both me and nisani201 in one post, despite him having just posted an analysis against me.

I think you're scum.

You have contributed very little to the game, you have posted a ton of fluff cases that look like contributions, yet you have never actively pushed your reads. You just write a cute analysis (look at your kibibit case day 1, does anyone actually remember that?)

Here's his filter, it's only 1 page, and on it there is nothing that makes me think he's town.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=51709



##Vote DCLXVI
Computer says mafia
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 22 2011 00:08 GMT
#1688
On November 22 2011 09:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.


I don't think we have 3 medics.

I don't think you actually cared when you voted both me and nisani201 in one post, despite him having just posted an analysis against me.

I think you're scum.

You have contributed very little to the game, you have posted a ton of fluff cases that look like contributions, yet you have never actively pushed your reads. You just write a cute analysis (look at your kibibit case day 1, does anyone actually remember that?)

Here's his filter, it's only 1 page, and on it there is nothing that makes me think he's town.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=51709



##Vote DCLXVI

...you're already voting him
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 22 2011 00:09 GMT
#1689
I want a scummy looking person to flip, one who was generating discussion with a for and against and leaves us with something to go with, instead of just things blues choose to tell us.
Chaoser is now confirmed to have lied, among the other reasons I had to vote for him. I'd like to see his alignment.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
November 22 2011 00:09 GMT
#1690
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.

We know you couldn´t have protected Palmar if you visited Tyrran.

The fact that you confirm that you visited Tyrran suggest that prplhz is either a Scum watcher, or is telling the truth.

Fuck.
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 00:10 GMT
#1691
On November 22 2011 09:08 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:07 Palmar wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.


I don't think we have 3 medics.

I don't think you actually cared when you voted both me and nisani201 in one post, despite him having just posted an analysis against me.

I think you're scum.

You have contributed very little to the game, you have posted a ton of fluff cases that look like contributions, yet you have never actively pushed your reads. You just write a cute analysis (look at your kibibit case day 1, does anyone actually remember that?)

Here's his filter, it's only 1 page, and on it there is nothing that makes me think he's town.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=51709



##Vote DCLXVI

...you're already voting him


It's for emphasis, I'm trying to start a bandwagon here. Don't rain on my parade.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 00:11 GMT
#1692
On November 22 2011 09:09 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.

We know you couldn´t have protected Palmar if you visited Tyrran.

The fact that you confirm that you visited Tyrran suggest that prplhz is either a Scum watcher, or is telling the truth.

Fuck.


At this point I actually don't mind just flipping them both.

prplhz is already dead. I find it really, really weird that he didn't roleclaim earlier (as I suggested). No idea what to think of it.
Computer says mafia
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 22 2011 00:12 GMT
#1693
@Palmar
Why do you keep refuting the possibility that one mafia may bus another? Consider the situation where both of you are mafia, nisani looks close to a lynch, so he distances himself from a teammate with an analysis against him. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
I can already see the ending
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 22 2011 00:14 GMT
#1694
On November 22 2011 09:09 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.

We know you couldn´t have protected Palmar if you visited Tyrran.

The fact that you confirm that you visited Tyrran suggest that prplhz is either a Scum watcher, or is telling the truth.

Fuck.

We have no confirmation that Palmar actually took a hit, nor that anyone protected him. We simply have Palmar's claim that he was hit.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
November 22 2011 00:18 GMT
#1695

Just woke up and skimmed the thread, got to run for work now.
Just realised I hadn't voted yet, I'll post explanations for these later, hopefully during lunch.

##Vote: Prphlz
##Vote: Nisani201


Because of this and the fact that he hasn't posted since except to fix his vote makes him scum in my eyes.

Until he explains his reasoning,

##Vote: xsksc
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 22 2011 00:19 GMT
#1696
On November 22 2011 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
good god you guys are a bunch of ...

-___-


WBG, to repeat the question that was lost a page back, do you think we should still lynch nisani with prp's post-mortem blue claim? what makes him different now than sinani and prp?


-_-

I feel like a broken record. Unless Nisani does anything additionally bad in the future, I will keep referring people back to this post specifically, since I do believe I've repeated my reasoning at least twice now.

Here's the bulk of the initial case:


On November 18 2011 05:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG you are so wrong... I provided a reason for every single one my votes.


Okay, I think I understand now.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 08:55 Nisani201 wrote:
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.

But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.

##Vote: Kenpachi


That's not a reason. "Kenpachi is irrelevant therefore he should die" is not a reason for him being scum.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote:
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.

##Vote: Palmar


That sounds like a reason, but actually it's just bull. Completely unsubstantiated.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 02:16 Nisani201 wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?

Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.

##Vote: Forumite


Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201?

Both of them are bullshit. First we have this case against LSB, which I already mentioned:

On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:
/confirm
On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:
damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh


On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means.
LAL?
For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup.

Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +
Or it means don't get caught lying.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless


So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean?

Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously?
Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how

I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post?

FoS LSB

As for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once.


And then we have this:


On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote:
On November 16 2011 22:09 xsksc wrote:
On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D

Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same.

FoS: xsksc


Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost?

No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started.

And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him?


He is pressuring them based on bullshit cases.

------------

In regards to chaoser, I don't think that Palmar's analysis has enough evidence to prove him guilty. Just because it's Palmar doesn't mean that we can't look at his analysees objectively.


When Palmar asked you "what case is bullshit" you just picked the two and said they're bullshit.

You didn't say why. You didn't point out anything that seemed fabricated. You just said they're bullshit. Real convincing, dude.

Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.

Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?

##Vote: Drazerk


This one makes you a hypocrite, since you also voted Kenpachi.

The problem is that both you and Drazerk look terrible, and neither of you has amazing town play. Drazerk is straight up bad as town (no offense, Drazerk you defended yourself by saying that lol).

I'd rather vote you over Drazerk right now since you seem to be soft-defending chaoser at every turn, and I don't like chaoser right now.

So, you need to die.

##unvote Drazerk
##vote Nisani201




#2 is his shift in behavior from the way he previously plays.

here's more:


On November 18 2011 08:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nisani your defense is terrible and you are pushing bad lynches.

Notice how no one agrees with you, other than perhaps Drazerk? Yeah, that's cause you don't have a case on Forumite. Your vote on him is bad.

Drazerk is a bad lynch today too, for the simple reason that he's just been cocky. People are trying to use LaL to lynch him, which is honestly hilarious.


#3, he was one of the players who was on only one of the wagons yesterday. He voted Kenpachi for really dumb reasons, then appeared to back off when he got hammered. That was shady to me even before the flip.

#4, what separates him from sinani is that nisani actually has a discernible style as town and scum. In this game he has OMGUSed every single person who initially voted him (myself, Palmar, cyber) and as town he doesn't do that, generally.

He's not a very good player, but he's not this bad either.

Then, he continually pushed Drazerk for no reason, even going so far as to connect me and Drazerk. Unsubstantiated assumptions ftw. As town he doesn't tend to do such things, he just tunnels one player. He randomly voted multiple people day 1 and claimed he actually had reasoning for his votes despite failing to come up with them over and over.

Lastly, since I thought chaoser was scum, and he straight up refused to comment on Nisani, I was increasingly suspicious that they were scum together.

We can't determine that until one of them flips, of course, but it's a lead nevertheless.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 22 2011 00:28 GMT
#1697
also DCLXVI is soft-claiming medic.

A real medic wouldn't do that...
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 22 2011 00:29 GMT
#1698
I was holding this back because I wanted to see Nisani and Prplhz flip seperately, but that was under the assumption at least one other lynch would happen too (Chaoser preferably). Also Prplhz is more or less confirmed at the moment, so
##Vote: Nisani201
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 22 2011 00:31 GMT
#1699
On November 22 2011 09:19 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:02 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 22 2011 09:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
good god you guys are a bunch of ...

-___-


WBG, to repeat the question that was lost a page back, do you think we should still lynch nisani with prp's post-mortem blue claim? what makes him different now than sinani and prp?


-_-

I feel like a broken record. Unless Nisani does anything additionally bad in the future, I will keep referring people back to this post specifically, since I do believe I've repeated my reasoning at least twice now.

Here's the bulk of the initial case:


Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 05:40 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 18 2011 05:28 Nisani201 wrote:
WBG you are so wrong... I provided a reason for every single one my votes.


Okay, I think I understand now.

On November 17 2011 08:55 Nisani201 wrote:
Just read through the thread. A lot of shit is going down.

But most of it is irrelevant. Kenpachi is not irrelevant. He should die.

##Vote: Kenpachi


That's not a reason. "Kenpachi is irrelevant therefore he should die" is not a reason for him being scum.

On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote:
Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.

##Vote: Palmar


That sounds like a reason, but actually it's just bull. Completely unsubstantiated.

On November 17 2011 02:16 Nisani201 wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote:
OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?

Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.

##Vote: Forumite


Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201?

Both of them are bullshit. First we have this case against LSB, which I already mentioned:

On November 15 2011 20:44 Forumite wrote:
/confirm
On November 15 2011 16:12 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 15:49 DCLXVI wrote:
damn I forgot people post while I'm in the middle of writing posts... ugh


On November 15 2011 14:55 LSB wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:19 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
On November 15 2011 12:55 LSB wrote:
come to think about it, that does seem like a nice icebreaker. So everyone! How about lets talk about how you think mafia should be played, the importance of blues, what should we do with lurkers, and what majority lynch means.
LAL?
For your point on LAL, unless I have misread the OP, we only know what abilities are possible, not which are actually in the game, how they may have been combined into roles, nor how many of the role there may be. So, unless we have a cop of some variety, I don't know how you intend to find liars in this game. So were you just stating that as a general "in mafia games" rule, or did you have something in mind for this game in particular? I'd be interested in hearing how you intend to determine the liars given the setup.

Lying will come up and you will be able to recognize it. The most prominent example is fake claims. So LAL means no fake claims. + Show Spoiler +
Or it means don't get caught lying.
+ Show Spoiler +
Kenpachi's green claim would be an example of a potentially acceptable lie (if he is blue) as this early in the game any claims are meaningless


So what is your position on Kenpachi claiming townie? At first you say LAL, but then lying can be acceptable in certain situations, such as kenpachi is blue. Then you say that his claim is meaningless as it is too early in the game. Does that make his post spam/intentionally distracting? Surely he is a good enough player to realize the importance of his claim. Can you explain your opinions on the subject rather than just post vague generalizations. Is kenpachi's claim worth analyzing/what does it mean?

Wtf does this mean? Are you saying you are taking Kenpachi seriously?
Stop talking hypotheticals, iirc you've played with Kenpachi before. Even if you have not you can go through his posts and figure out how he plays. In addition you've played before so you know how TL mafia is in the first few hours. I honestly don't see how

I´m going to step in here. DCLXVI allready caught this and posted before me, but I don´t think my reason for noticing has been discussed. Okay, to me it looks like this; LSB wants us to Lynch All Liars. Kenpachi claimed Townie, but LSB doesn´t want us to take the Kenpachi claim seriously. My problem here is that either Kenpachi lied, or he just told Scum not to nightkill him, because it would be no use. If we are going to go by the LAL policy, then either Kenpachi lied or acted Pro-Scum, so why should we back off? Kenpachi does this every game, then we can ignore his claim, but what I don´t agree with is LSB promoting LAL wanting to ignore the claim, even if it is meta. It took him about 5 posts to go back on his own policy of Lynch All Liars. If Kenpachi lied (or play Pro-Scum), why does LSB then defend him after his first policy post?

FoS LSB

As for lynching 1-2 lurkers and 1-2 scum, sounds reasonable, I think we should stay at about that number for now. We need to be carefull about lynching, not just because of the consequences in the setup, but if we find 5 players who seem connected, then it´s better to lynch 1-2 and see if they are scum, than lynching all 5 at once and kill 5 innocent townies at once.


And then we have this:


On November 16 2011 22:48 Forumite wrote:
On November 16 2011 22:09 xsksc wrote:
On November 16 2011 21:42 Forumite wrote:
On November 15 2011 14:13 xsksc wrote:
This is my first proper mafia game, just finished a newbie mini-game the other day.
GLHF Everyone!:D

Just found this little gem. Looks like a typical newbie scumpost. His filter suggest the same.

FoS: xsksc


Sorry, what? I posted this before the game even got going, I was breaking the ice and being friendly, what is scummy about it? It IS my first real mafia game, I'm excited about it. Several others have said it's their first game too. Can you enlighten me, why do you think it's a newbie scumpost?

No, the game had allready started. You confirmed getting your role first of all players, then when people got going with discussing policy, you dropped the above post. During 2 hours people had been talking about policy, and even dropped a few weird posts that have since been called out, so the game had definetly started.

And about which part is scummy about it? Everything! You excuse yourself as a new player, thereby lowering our expectations on your contribution in the game, making way for future lurking. It´s an empty icebreaker, full of forced enthusiasm. The message of the post is "I´m trying to help but will probably fail". Is that the kind of player we are going to rely on in this game, or someone who will be left until the end because noone will bother to shoot him?


He is pressuring them based on bullshit cases.

------------

In regards to chaoser, I don't think that Palmar's analysis has enough evidence to prove him guilty. Just because it's Palmar doesn't mean that we can't look at his analysees objectively.


When Palmar asked you "what case is bullshit" you just picked the two and said they're bullshit.

You didn't say why. You didn't point out anything that seemed fabricated. You just said they're bullshit. Real convincing, dude.

On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game.

Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him?

##Vote: Drazerk


This one makes you a hypocrite, since you also voted Kenpachi.

The problem is that both you and Drazerk look terrible, and neither of you has amazing town play. Drazerk is straight up bad as town (no offense, Drazerk you defended yourself by saying that lol).

I'd rather vote you over Drazerk right now since you seem to be soft-defending chaoser at every turn, and I don't like chaoser right now.

So, you need to die.

##unvote Drazerk
##vote Nisani201




#2 is his shift in behavior from the way he previously plays.

here's more:


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On November 18 2011 08:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
Nisani your defense is terrible and you are pushing bad lynches.

Notice how no one agrees with you, other than perhaps Drazerk? Yeah, that's cause you don't have a case on Forumite. Your vote on him is bad.

Drazerk is a bad lynch today too, for the simple reason that he's just been cocky. People are trying to use LaL to lynch him, which is honestly hilarious.


#3, he was one of the players who was on only one of the wagons yesterday. He voted Kenpachi for really dumb reasons, then appeared to back off when he got hammered. That was shady to me even before the flip.

#4, what separates him from sinani is that nisani actually has a discernible style as town and scum. In this game he has OMGUSed every single person who initially voted him (myself, Palmar, cyber) and as town he doesn't do that, generally.

He's not a very good player, but he's not this bad either.

Then, he continually pushed Drazerk for no reason, even going so far as to connect me and Drazerk. Unsubstantiated assumptions ftw. As town he doesn't tend to do such things, he just tunnels one player. He randomly voted multiple people day 1 and claimed he actually had reasoning for his votes despite failing to come up with them over and over.

Lastly, since I thought chaoser was scum, and he straight up refused to comment on Nisani, I was increasingly suspicious that they were scum together.

We can't determine that until one of them flips, of course, but it's a lead nevertheless.


So you would prefer a Nisani lynch over a MrZentor lynch if you had to choose? because if I had to choose between the two, that's the direction I would go. apart from feeling like a dick for slamming the guy right when he comes in (unrelated), the way he unvoted palmar immediately and isn't freaking out about his impending death has placed some doubts in my mind. On the subject with nisani, his voting patterns have disturbed me greatly this game. In addition, i agree with the sentiment that seeing one of their flips would be quite helpful.
So for now ##Unvote: MrZentor and ##Vote: Nisani201 until he can provide me reason not to.
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On November 22 2011 09:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
also DCLXVI is soft-claiming medic.

A real medic wouldn't do that...


Where do you see this?
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