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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 05:08 GMT
#1621
I think VE has been buddying WoS hardcore

evidence is everything in the logs and VE's mayor vote
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:37 GMT
#1622
On January 13 2014 03:35 Blazinghand wrote:
marv probably scum. before i claimed mason in thread, i claimed mason to marv in PMs with hopeless, and hopeless confirmed it in pms with marv. nothing about me claiming in thread shoudl have changed marv's mind or made him "more sure"

marv already ahd confirmation from hopeless1. do not elect marv.

It's a good thing I wasn't elected, I could lynch BH for posting this, mason claim confirmed or not.

On January 13 2014 05:51 bumatlarge wrote:
Making a claimed mason mayor is a pretty good idea. It just depends on the person and their scum read. Are we really that set on not making BH or hopeless mayor?


One of bum's only posts in the day. Now that I've actually caught up and read the whole day since I peaced out last night, I definitely think it's long overdue for him to have done something at all if he was town, but instead he says this amidst Marv trying to figure out who he's going to lynch.

Would scum really be this clueless, though?

On January 13 2014 06:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
I don't like the xata lynch, I don't even think he's all that scummy. As stated earlier I am not gonna vote for any mayor who doesn't promise to kill derrida.


This is extremely stupid and makes me rethink entirely how I view thrawn. Early on he was townish but his activity has dropped off a cliff and his effort level has similarly fallen. I know he's capable of posting STUFF as mafia (Extractor), so it's no unheard of that he didn't hyperlurk. Would kill, maybe.

On January 13 2014 06:35 bumatlarge wrote:
Sorry doge, I have to leave, I'm going to put my vote on WoS, but I don't think it matters too much at this point.


Like really, so clueless. I yelled at VE for this and it's even worse at this point.

On January 13 2014 07:06 Mig wrote:
marv, you seem very likely to be mayor. If you are concerned about the xat lynch then who are you going to be lynched.



Maybe an attempt at moving Marv away from Xat? It's thin, but I'm not NEARLY as impressed with Mig as Rayn/Marv have been.

On January 13 2014 07:34 Mig wrote:
To Marv

I am only about 50 pages in so quick thoughts are this-

thrawn is very very likely town - Mafia are rarely going to fake claim this early and on top of that oftentimes millers are not self aware. Mafia wont know whether millers are self aware or not so to claim you are a self aware early on in thread is a huge gamble (if it turns out they arent self aware and one flips later on this could potentially be suicide).

I am actually a bit suspicious you just ignored this right after thrawn claimed but you didn't list him under your suspicious list at least so meh.

koshi/rayn both very likely town - both playing the exact same as previous games I have played with them as town.

doge- likely town, every pm game I play most of the people active in pms and trying to seek people out through skype are town. The fact that he is talking to you, he also pmd me right away, is something I don't think many mafia would do unless they were extremely confident in their play (assuming you are town). Your point about him still being suspicious of bh/hopeless is another thing that appear townie to me.

Scummy people

I haven't had a chance to talk to WoS or Yam in pms yet but both look bad to me. WoS's posts that I have read so far are wordy with very little content. Just seems like a lot of pointless fluff.

Yam - I can't really explain it but this is based on tone for me. The last big game with mayors I played with yam he ran for mayor and seemed so much more confident and his posts were way more direct and to the point. This game he starts out writing 10 paragraphs when he could have explained his thoughts in 2 and I don't see him being nearly as aggressive.

I would probably prefer if one of those 2 were lynched, but I imagine I am in the minority on that for now.

Cpt obvious I think would be a bad lynch candidate. He is putting 0 effort into appearing to look good, even after people have yelled at him about looking shitty. Strikes me as a bad/lazy townie.

Xat - I would be ok with a Xat lynch. I don't think his indignant pms to you really point to him being town. I haven't read the most recent stuff yet but his early posts to me seem hesitant and a lot of his early questions were pointless fluff.


"Ok with a Xat lynch" but "Yamato and WoS" are "Scummy people"

Fuck this dude.

On January 13 2014 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
There is something so off between WoS and VE.

WoS said to me that VE and him agreed on "practically everything"

but if VE's reads were me/mocsta, then Wave didn't mention being suspicious of either when he spoke to me.

It's all very weird


Obviously the case. I think AT LEAST ONE of them is mafia. VE voting for WoS at the time I called him out for it is just icing on top of the cake. WoS is also apparently one of the few people VE talks to for any length of time.

On January 13 2014 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
what the fuck is he doing


What indeed.

On January 13 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am fucking furious right now.
Marv I can't fucking believe how hard you are misrepresenting me right now.
I flat out told you that I have a hard time trusting you and am suspicious of you and you say I'm not?
And all of a sudden the whole fucking thread nearly gets together to lynch me at the last second while I'm fucking afk?

Aside from the fucking lot of you all saying 'oh well his filter looks scummy' WHICH ONE OF YOU ACTUALLY WROTE A FUCKING CASE? WHO HAS SOME FUCKING SCUM PROOF? WHO HAS SOME ANALYSIS? Nobody, that's who.

Some fucking horseshit going on right here. Marv congratulations on being right about Xatalos, maybe before some moron shoots VE you should remember what I said to you about him. People fucking lumping me into the same group as Derrida wtf is that.

I'll be back later tonight once I've calmed down and had a chance to relax. I just typed out a long paragraph about where I was but fuck that, you people don't deserve it.


This post is just so not how I think a town WoS would respond it's absurd. He's so caught up in acting angry, yet he manages to mention Marv being right about Xatalos in a nice way smack dab in the middle of his rage?

I think this is a case of scum-WoS being mad that people suspect him.

Thrawn - VE - Bum - WoS - Mig

2-4 mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 05:38 GMT
#1623
hey yamato. you do irc?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:38 GMT
#1624
I guarantee mafia were supporting my election at some point

WoS PMs me after I say I'm not running and says he "doesn't like the alternatives".

Idk man, this whole game is weird.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 05:39 GMT
#1625
On January 13 2014 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey yamato. you do irc?

I could, I guess
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 13 2014 05:42 GMT
#1626
Yeah I'm not sold on mig either.

His post came out when thread sentiment was clearly laid out.

Want to see more for sure.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 06:02 GMT
#1627
On January 12 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yamato, as it stands atm I think I may be able to ensure your election.
You've thrown a bunch of names around as to who you might want to kill---BH, Hopeless, VE now, people who don't contribute in the thread...
I want to know where you're headed with the lynch long before it happens and I want it to be consistent. Can you do that?

This post is also something weird.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 06:05 GMT
#1628
I rescind the thrawn read, by the way.
Writer@WriterYamato
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 13 2014 06:12 GMT
#1629
Damn.. I was considering shooting thrawn.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 06:13 GMT
#1630
On January 13 2014 15:12 Mocsta wrote:
Damn.. I was considering shooting thrawn.


honestly i will feel left out if you dont
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2014 07:18 GMT
#1631
GG... Meta is an annoying thing. And PM's so hard to fake.

As a sidenote, I never lied about that PM stuff I was accused of (rayn etc.).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
January 13 2014 07:44 GMT
#1632
lol wtf
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 07:45 GMT
#1633
I want the seal, coag
Writer@WriterYamato
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
January 13 2014 07:55 GMT
#1634
sorry I dont take requests.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
January 13 2014 08:13 GMT
#1635
##Lynch: Coagulation
Writer@WriterYamato
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 13 2014 08:40 GMT
#1636
On January 13 2014 16:18 Xatalos wrote:
GG... Meta is an annoying thing. And PM's so hard to fake.

As a sidenote, I never lied about that PM stuff I was accused of (rayn etc.).

Uhhhh...this is cheating
RIP Aaliyah
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2014 08:44 GMT
#1637
somebody summon geript!
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 08:51 GMT
#1638
I would bet a lot of money that neither Mig nor thrawn are scum, Yamato.

I err on the side of bum not being scum too.

VE is almost unequivocally scum, and WoS is probably scum with him. Of the remaining players it's likely that a newer player is also scum. Chinstrap fits. (I personally want to give the LSB banking guy a bit to come forth with more reads that aren't from his pre-replacement notes).

The only other players that are worth a look are BC, gumshoe, and potentially JAT mocsta Coag.

The last three I put at unlikely but without having really talked with them or having heard of them through PMs I'm not anywhere near as confident on them being town as some others.
Wow
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
January 13 2014 09:00 GMT
#1639
On January 13 2014 17:51 suchdoge wrote:
I would bet a lot of money that neither Mig nor thrawn are scum, Yamato.

I err on the side of bum not being scum too.

VE is almost unequivocally scum, and WoS is probably scum with him. Of the remaining players it's likely that a newer player is also scum. Chinstrap fits. (I personally want to give the LSB banking guy a bit to come forth with more reads that aren't from his pre-replacement notes).

The only other players that are worth a look are BC, gumshoe, and potentially JAT mocsta Coag.

The last three I put at unlikely but without having really talked with them or having heard of them through PMs I'm not anywhere near as confident on them being town as some others.

WoS posted a bunch of PM logs he has with VE into the thread, what about them makes you think they're fabricated between two scum? Is there anything besides the "I could probably get Helvetica lynched with this PM"?
suchdoge
Profile Joined January 2014
Guatemala91 Posts
January 13 2014 09:06 GMT
#1640
I assume it's possible scum could have faked logs. However if one of them is town it's probably WoS-I'm very sure VE is mafia.

The logs between aqua and Xatalos also sort of fall in the same category. Aqua could possibly be scum still if Xata faked those logs but I find it less likely.

I'll have to reread the WoS logs.
Wow
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