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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 03:29:14
October 25 2011 03:27 GMT
#1621
On October 25 2011 12:22 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 12:21 Craton wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:18 Sponkz wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:12 Craton wrote:
Apparently Dignitas is trying to find another loophole for wcg.

On October 25 2011 10:57 Sponkz wrote:
Phoenix is the fastest with like 3.10 if you do it perfect.

...okay?

You keep replying with unrelated information.


Unrelated? You said he was slow.

???

I said, and I quote, "and then all your SUBSEQUENT clears are slower than most other junglers."

Wriggles bro. Wriggles

Do you really think every other jungler doesn't also get wriggles? Rammus has a fast first clear and very slow subsequent clears. This has always been a big problem for him.

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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 03:31:21
October 25 2011 03:29 GMT
#1622
On October 25 2011 12:27 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 12:22 Sponkz wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:21 Craton wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:18 Sponkz wrote:
On October 25 2011 12:12 Craton wrote:
Apparently Dignitas is trying to find another loophole for wcg.

On October 25 2011 10:57 Sponkz wrote:
Phoenix is the fastest with like 3.10 if you do it perfect.

...okay?

You keep replying with unrelated information.


Unrelated? You said he was slow.

???

I said, and I quote, "and then all your SUBSEQUENT clears are slower than most other junglers."

Wriggles bro. Wriggles

How long do you plan on acting like the village fool? Do you really think every other jungler doesn't also get wriggles? Rammus has a fast first clear and very slow subsequent clears. This has always been a big problem for him.

[image loading]



Hey man amumu doesn't, neither does fiddle or nunu.

Idc, he seems rather quick, you're just hating on the armadillo

EDIT: I can however agree that his dragon control is very poor, due to his design.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
October 25 2011 03:30 GMT
#1623
They followed the same rules that WCG has always been for the past couple of years. No new rules were posted. So why the hell is Dignitas claiming that the rules have changed.

IF an admin really said that the rules were changed then that is complete BS for CDE because there is no way that they could've heard about this.

So either WCG is not organized at all and really shitty, or Dignitas is just being sore losers/cheaters.

Slowly but surely I have developed a dislike for Dignitas over the past 2 months,
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 25 2011 03:31 GMT
#1624
CDE shouldn't play these games. Seriously they beat them straight up. If WCG wants to enforce this bullshit than CDE should continue to refuse to play and let Dignitas get a free win to a tourney where NO ONE will support them.
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
October 25 2011 03:32 GMT
#1625
On October 25 2011 12:30 tobi9999 wrote:
So either WCG is not organized at all and really shitty, or Dignitas is just being sore losers/cheaters.

Pretty sure it's both.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 03:36:36
October 25 2011 03:35 GMT
#1626
On October 25 2011 12:29 Sponkz wrote:
you're just hating on the armadillo

[image loading]

Yep, I clearly hate Rammus.

On October 25 2011 12:31 overt wrote:
CDE shouldn't play these games. Seriously they beat them straight up. If WCG wants to enforce this bullshit than CDE should continue to refuse to play and let Dignitas get a free win to a tourney where NO ONE will support them.

It would be bullshit to allow RS to get a free pass to Korea, no matter how garbage WCG's admins have been.
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SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
October 25 2011 03:38 GMT
#1627
is there a wcg game going on?
Who needs players when you have God?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
October 25 2011 03:40 GMT
#1628
WCG qualifiers are over for US and CA unless WCG admins try to impersonate nesl's quality again.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 25 2011 03:40 GMT
#1629
On October 25 2011 12:38 madmandrit wrote:
is there a wcg game going on?


No but there might be. The qualifying team might have to re-game because the other team is filled with sore losers (and cheaters).
Ome
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada157 Posts
October 25 2011 03:40 GMT
#1630
No the finals was last night, and CDE defeated Dignitas 2-0.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 25 2011 03:47 GMT
#1631
On October 25 2011 12:40 Ome wrote:
No the finals was last night, and CDE defeated Dignitas 2-0.


It was 2-1. Also I wouldn't put it past QTpie and friends to troll a bit. QT is pretty much adored on /v/ so more than likely he said something and the internet went nuts.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 04:36:46
October 25 2011 03:48 GMT
#1632
So some updates/story on Dignitas drama:

  • Jatt plays for CA WCG qualifiers and loses
  • Jatt has dual citizenship with US
  • Jatt plays for US WCG qualifiers and states that an admin said he's eligible
  • 2009 WCG rulebook explicitly forbids playing for more than one country in a given year.
  • Rinoa posts saying she's asking for an official response from WCG
  • Reddit post claiming to be admin says that rule doesn't apply to this situation and he was approved
  • Rule states that Dignitas goes into the final qualifier game with a 1 game advantage in a bo3.
  • CDE beats Dignitas 2-0 (technically 2-1)
  • Dignitas claims it should've been two sets of bo3 with them having an entire set lead (which doesn't match any tournament format used anywhere) and is trying to get to play a new bo3.
  • Reginald claims Marcou (Riot's eSports director) told him that WCG actually did DQ Jatt, but from the CA qualifiers which he had already lost (making the DQ completely irrelevant)
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 25 2011 03:56 GMT
#1633
On October 25 2011 12:07 gtrsrs wrote:
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On October 25 2011 12:04 HazMat wrote:
what I meant to say is WW needs ghost to gank pre-6, which means he's shit. Obv you need to run Flash on him.


i strongly disagree
i mean i don't really watch high elo streams or tourneys so i can't provide any anecdotal evidence
but warwick can provide a huge 1v1 boost with his W from extremely far away and ww with red is very scary. he has a hard time closing the gap but come on, that's ONE gank. after you hit 6 there is literally no jungler stronger. and i would put money on ww winning a 1v1 with most junglers too thanks to imba Q, so if you catch someone in the jungle it's lights out

and i am happy to post my stats with ww to prove my point but ofc i will just be laughed at



I have to agree with gtr here. WW is one of the strongest junglers in the game. Pre-6 his ganks are so-so but as long as your lanes are aware of this and don't extend too far then the ganks from your opponent's jungler are a giant waste of time unless they want to try diving a tower at such a low level.

Once you hit 6 you can completely shut down a lane (or two) every 60 seconds and literally carry your team to victory. You scale extremely well into the late game (whoever said you don't is retarded) because your W provides an excellent steroid for your team to push and for your ADs in teamfights and your Q scales off your opponent's health. You can initiate extremely well, forcing your opponent's to dedicate CC on you instead of your carry, or use your ult to lock down a particularly threatening opponent for a good duration.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 04:08:19
October 25 2011 04:04 GMT
#1634
Having to play 2 BO3 against the same team to qualify is pretty retarded, especially considering Dignitas was probably ready to take the win if they beat CDE even once.

WW is a fine jungler. If you know what you are doing he can gank and then easily tower dive people to finish them off because bloodscent is OP. I don't think particularly high of his ulti anymore after they nerfed it though, but yeah it's not bad but I hate it ,_, it's really bloodscent and his 1v1 power with Q that makes him tho.

If you wanted to fuck with a lane every 60 seconds trundle can do that too, l0l
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
October 25 2011 04:10 GMT
#1635
On October 25 2011 13:04 Juicyfruit wrote:
Having to play 2 BO3 against the same team to qualify is pretty retarded, especially considering Dignitas was probably ready to take the win if they beat CDE even once.

WW is a fine jungler. If you know what you are doing he can gank and then easily tower dive people to finish them off because bloodscent is OP. I don't think particularly high of his ulti anymore after they nerfed it though, but yeah it's not bad but I hate it ,_, it's really bloodscent and his 1v1 power with Q that makes him tho.

If you wanted to fuck with a lane every 60 seconds trundle can do that too, l0l


Yeah, if there is going to be a second bo3, why did Dignitas get a 1 game advantage during yesterday's series? I mean it doesn't make a difference since they lost both games, but it seems like they're changing the rules just to screw with CDE.
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mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
October 25 2011 04:12 GMT
#1636
dignitas won the winner's final v CDE, CDE came back from loser's bracket final so they had to fight down a set.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 04:14:20
October 25 2011 04:14 GMT
#1637
On October 25 2011 13:12 mrgerry wrote:
dignitas won the winner's final v CDE, CDE came back from loser's bracket final so they had to fight down a set.


Finals for every other WCG were Bo3 with the team advancing out of winners staring 1-0. Even in the CA version as well as the others. While that would be standard Double Elim practice, this is League of Legends. We make up our own bracket rules here.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 04:17:31
October 25 2011 04:14 GMT
#1638
Dignitas already backpedaled: linky

Also, does anyone know where to find the VODs from the CDE vs. Dignitas games?
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
October 25 2011 04:19 GMT
#1639
I wouldn't call that backpedaling. It's still bad sportsmanship, they agreed to play with a 1 game advantage and are trying to game the rules now.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
October 25 2011 04:21 GMT
#1640
I don't approve of Dignitas' behavior, but I can't hate on voyboy
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