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On December 13 2013 04:07 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 04:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 13 2013 04:03 Corazon wrote:
Ok, fair enough JJD. So you want a Vayne lynch D2? Very much so. Good, good. In the event a Vayne lynch doesn't happen, who would you be ok lynching? IDK who my #2 is right now. There's a few people I wouldn't mind lynching but none nearly as much as Vayne. And a red vayne means the day 1 lynch gives us a ton of info.
I haven't really been crazy about purple this game. He'd probably be a good lynch.
And I can't get over Kush voting spag after defending him a whole bunch. But other than that I've mostly thought he was ok this game
Also, I thought sidespring was scummy early game and all he's done since then is lurk.
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How about u cora? Who do you wanna lynch tomorrow? What's ur take on the people I mentioned?
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On December 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 20:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's still more likely for scum to vote poorly than for town.
What kind of a defense is that? Actually if we look at LXIII scum voted a lot better than town. Being right or wrong has no bearing on your alignment. you're wrong, the entire scum team could be found by analysing the BC wagon What I mean is that being correct doesn't mean you're more or less likely to be scum. It's more complicated then that. On December 12 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis who exaclty in your opinion voted poorly? Anyone joining in on the bandwagon despite having a townread on Spaghetti before the bandwagon began. I haven't gone back to check out who yet. i've done that all for you -.- Wasn't your list incomplete? You said so yourself that you hadn't checked it yet for some. On December 12 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you haven't done that yet how can you say "a lot of people" as you seem to not know if there were a lot of people or not? When so many people voted for Spaghetti despite only one person voting for him early on and that being Alakaslam, you can be pretty sure about it. Wow, this is so scummy. Can anyone else see why?
Please explain exactly why because other than being somewhat presumptuous I don't see why.
On December 12 2013 21:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis threw a lazy ass vote and his reasoning he is giving now doesn't look like it's lining up with his actions (he is saying he had reasons to believe Spag was scum while he had clearly not read the thread (or is lying now) - had he said "i consolidated" it would have been okay, but he is trying to explain his actions to look like something they clearly were not)
I hadn't read up the thread on the topic of the second 24 hours, but I had plenty of reason to suspect Spaghetti from D1 which I quoted in my filter. I instantly read him town in LXIII and found his behaviour vastly different in this game. His approach, his lack of similar paranoia, his everything.
I'm pretty sure on my Cora town read. He seems far too frustrated to feign as scum and is trying to come up with contributions. Not really interested in VA either.
Grack looks bad to me for trying to make a joke like that look serious and start shit up. Coupled with his indecipherable vote on Rayn makes him a good lynch target.
I hadn't read up on Vayne yet, but reading JJD's case on him I'd be happy to see him hang. not going to repeat the points, JJD mentioned them well.
Kush looks pretty bad too. He's outright refusing to give out reads supposedly for this reason.
On December 12 2013 02:12 kushm4sta wrote:
ive been trying to come up with scummy shit to say so i dont get nk
In the meantime, he's contributed nothing to town and seems to be doing everything he can to deflect people from reading him, like this.
On December 12 2013 02:16 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 02:14 purpletrator wrote:
hey kush, why did/do you have me as green? why do you care?
He's been blatant about not giving out reads. His vote on Spaghetti was "for information", and he somehow knows Alakaslam and Purple are town.
On December 12 2013 00:02 kushm4sta wrote:
I think scum are going to make more obvious cases and attack generalized scumtells, like wishy washiness. Or they would go after players like alakaslam or purple (easy targets). Speghetti's case is just odd and I can't see scum ever making it.
Wouldn't mind seeing Kush hang. My only qualm with it is that Xatalos was happy to lynch him too. Meh.
Speaking of Xatalos. I'll repeat my points on him again, with a few bonus ones for good measure.
-Threw shit on everyone until he found someone that it stuck on, showing disregard for who gets lynched as long as it isn't him.
-First said I might've had a good point on him that he started too fast, then proceeds to OMGUS me later despite nothing having changed. Slight town read at first, then suddenly switches to scumread and then top scumread.
-Randomly unvotes me in favour of Purpletrator despite him not having gained any traction either. First tunnels me into oblivion, then randomly stops giving a shit from one moment on the other. His interactions with me make no sense and he seems to care more about what town thinks of them then actually convincing anyone.
-Switches up to Spaghetticus despite half his projected scumteam voting for Spaghetti.
Could we please lynch this scum already?
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On December 13 2013 04:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 04:07 Corazon wrote:On December 13 2013 04:06 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 13 2013 04:03 Corazon wrote:
Ok, fair enough JJD. So you want a Vayne lynch D2? Very much so. Good, good. In the event a Vayne lynch doesn't happen, who would you be ok lynching? IDK who my #2 is right now. There's a few people I wouldn't mind lynching but none nearly as much as Vayne. And a red vayne means the day 1 lynch gives us a ton of info. I haven't really been crazy about purple this game. He'd probably be a good lynch. And I can't get over Kush voting spag after defending him a whole bunch. But other than that I've mostly thought he was ok this game Also, I thought sidespring was scummy early game and all he's done since then is lurk.
I know Vayne hasn't contributed much but I'm a bit lost on how to read him. He's usually a troll and that why I have a problem reading him.
I agree with what you say about purple. I'm going to elaborate a bit more in my next post.
I can't lynch Kush because I can't read kush.
I do agree that sidespring needs to contribute more but I do how he explained his vote. His explanation for voting Vayne was a lot better then a lot of other explanations for votes. I'd like to give him a chance.
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what a waste of 150 posts considering im town, just arguing about why people voted spag instead of me lol
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On December 10 2013 06:02 Corazon wrote:
If you are town and you are lurking, expect to be under the gun during the game and expect me to not be very nice to you post-game. I will be weighing activity a lot heavier in my voting decision this game than I have in the past. You all are warned. If you are going to take a sieste the entire time and not participate, I am going to be on you until you do so.
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On December 13 2013 05:07 Corazon wrote:
I do agree that sidespring needs to contribute more but I do how he explained his vote. His explanation for voting Vayne was a lot better then a lot of other explanations for votes. I'd like to give him a chance.
Wow you really let him have it. U realize he has like 10 posts this game?
I find it funny how u rant and rave like a madman @ anyone that calls you scummy. But ur sweet as pumpkin pie to a lurker when you put all lurkers on notice @ the start of the game.
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My scumreads from the D1 votes: (TL;DR is at bottom)
HF- I've said a lot about him but he tunnels me for D1 and then throws his vote away on Slam. If he really believed that I was scum, why wouldn't he throw his vote away on me and not on Slam?
Xatalos- I've talked about him to death as well, but I found some very interesting stuff in his filter:
On December 11 2013 20:48 Xatalos wrote:By the way, I see Spaghetticus mentioned as a lynch candidate every once in a while. I don't really agree. Just look at these posts: Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 22:59 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Kush
Could you give insight into why you think the following people are green:
- Spaghetticus
- Xatalos
- Corazon
- Purpletrator
I'm on the list because while I know my alignment, it seems fairly unanimous that I've done little to demonstrate it. Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 02:42 Spaghetticus wrote:On December 11 2013 02:28 Xatalos wrote:Spag, have you catched up with the thread? What about those slight scumreads that you mentioned? By the way, this post made me think you're more likely town: On December 10 2013 22:59 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Kush
Could you give insight into why you think the following people are green:
- Spaghetticus
- Xatalos
- Corazon
- Purpletrator
I'm on the list because while I know my alignment, it seems fairly unanimous that I've done little to demonstrate it. It just seems counter-intuitive to bring pressure on yourself like that for no real reason. They're just single digit contenders on my spreadsheet (on a scale from -100 being mafia, and 100 being town). I adjust scores accordingly after each incident I find interesting. It's more to keep track of my perspective over time, as I often forget the small stuff. It's really not worth talking about, and I don't want scum knowing my reads unless I'm acting on them. I appreciate the town read, though think it's something I'd do as scum too. No I haven't caught up with the thread. I'm still stuck on the same page. I think it's more important to attend to the here and now, and I'm losing focus again (tis 5am). Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 16:31 Spaghetticus wrote:Slam if you make a decent case on me I'll reconsider lynching you  They all just read to me as town. It's not impossible for this attitude to be a ploy, but the far more likely scenario is that Spag is just not afraid of suspicions at all. Which means town. I also agree with this: Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 01:03 Spaghetticus wrote:On December 11 2013 00:55 Corazon wrote:
Plutarch is Marv because all Marv does is tunnel me whenever we are town together. You should just disregard everything he says about me tbh
HF is confirmation biased and refuses to push anyone else besides me. Play the game
Don't call Artanis scum for being right.
Be less bad please. How do you expect to convince anyone with this garbage? So we should take you word for it that not only are you trustworthy, you are able to discern smurfs at a glance, and you deem that this smurf is marv, and you also deem that Marv tunnels you, that he does so unfairly, and we should therefore disregard it? How can you not see that this is too much to swallow? HF is biased because he thinks you're scummy and doesn't change his vote with the wind? Artanis can't be scum because you agree with him on something? You're either making terrible arguments because you're terrible town, or you're just bullshitting to look like you're doing something. Can someone weigh in on how good Corazon is supposed to be? If he's at all capable at mafia I want him hung. The only worrying part is that there isn't much scumhunting in his filter. The previous post is probably the post closest to scumhunting, although it didn't come to any conclusion. Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 16:28 Spaghetticus wrote:
I'm surprised Plutarch wants to lynch Slam, but I happen to agree so...
Slam is still not talking sense. It looks to me that he's scaled back the persona just enough to give him a fighting chance of wifoming his eminent demise.
I wanted to find someone better to lynch and I wanted Slam to step up, but neither of these things have happened and I am not unhappy with this direction for day one. I was posturing with my pressure vote, but this doesn't rule out me actually voting him. Alakaslam isn't a terrible lynch, but it's definitely the easiest way out of D1. And it's a bit worrying that Spag's only committal to a lynch is someone like him. Spag, if you're town, you need to step up your scumhunting. You mentioned that you had several slight scumreads, but you haven't shared any of them yet (except Corazon, I'd assume). Otherwise you're looking townish, but that's a worrying part about you.
He spent all of this time "defending Spag" and at the same time tells him to play better. He is keeping is options open and is trying to defend Spag without looking like it.
Then he goes from this:
On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him.
To this:
On December 12 2013 05:45 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 05:42 Alakaslam wrote:On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him. Bussing exists that's why I linked greyhound. That's true. Since it seems to be between Spag and VA, I agree that Spag is the better choice. ##Unvote
##Vote Spaghetticus
In four minutes. He clearly did not believe that Spag was scum, but he voted for him? Why would you vote for someone that you think is town and that you just defended? Artanis also makes a good point when he says that Xatalos voted with 2 people he thought was scum. His words and actions aren't matching, which points to the fact that he doesn't care who is lynched, as long as it isn't him.
Grackaroni-Grackaroni is someone who has gone under the radar a bit (besides Rayn OMGUSing him). He is in the same boat as Vayne where they haven't contributed to the discussion and they both haven't justified their votes. His first vote on Kush is trolly, his second vote on Rayn is useless because he only thinks Rayn's vote is dumb and doesn't explain why it makes Rayn scum. Then, he starts to tunnel Slam by voting for him until he switches to Vayne:
On December 12 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Geez Vayne actually slipped lol. Un-lynchable scum record goodbye I will take pleasure in this.
##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: VayneAuthority
I don't think it prevents Slam from being scum.
The problem is that he never explains why he thinks Slam is scum. He just votes VA but keeps his options open. In my opinion, it is because he wants to hammer Vayne but wants an escape just in case the lynch goes south. All of this along with his lack of contribution make me really suspicious of him.
purpletrator-Purple's play has been ridiculously scummy so far. First off, his scumhunting has been non-existent. He's just shitted up the thread with a whole bunch of nonsense. As said before, his overreaction to LSB's criticism was really suspicious and not very justifiable. Then, there is his justification for his vote:
On December 12 2013 05:39 purpletrator wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me. This is where I'm at right now. Heavily swayed by Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.
I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.
I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.
When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.
Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.
Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.
Spag is Scum.
Please lynch spag.
He completely sheeps Plutarch here and basically says "it's Plutarch's fault my vote is on Spag". He is both acknowledging his lack of scumhunting the fact that he is sheeping. He is trying to divert responsibility for the Spag lynch away from him.
From what I have concluded, although Xatalos is the person I would most want to lynch D2, I'm ok with lynching any of these four.
TL;DR
HF-Throws his vote away after tunneling me, why didn't he vote for me, his top scumread?
Xatalos- Stuff I've said before + voted for someone he thought was town
Grack- Lack of contribution, tunneling Slam with no explanation and then switching to Vayne but keeping his options open.
Purple- Lack of contribution + sheeping Plutarch
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On December 13 2013 05:25 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:02 Corazon wrote:
If you are town and you are lurking, expect to be under the gun during the game and expect me to not be very nice to you post-game. I will be weighing activity a lot heavier in my voting decision this game than I have in the past. You all are warned. If you are going to take a sieste the entire time and not participate, I am going to be on you until you do so. ...... Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 05:07 Corazon wrote:
I do agree that sidespring needs to contribute more but I do how he explained his vote. His explanation for voting Vayne was a lot better then a lot of other explanations for votes. I'd like to give him a chance.
Wow you really let him have it. U realize he has like 10 posts this game? I find it funny how u rant and rave like a madman @ anyone that calls you scummy. But ur sweet as pumpkin pie to a lurker when you put all lurkers on notice @ the start of the game.
His 10 posts are better than purple's posts. By far.
They're both lurking, but at least sidesprang's vote was decently justified. His posts have not been absolutely terrible. The opposite is with purple.
I love how you yell at me for getting mad at people yet get mad at me when I don't agree with you.
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I return much later than anticipated. Reading and catching up. Thoughts will be posted. Cases will be made. I will not be ashamed of my play.
Blame my absence on the alcohol.
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On December 13 2013 01:54 Corazon wrote:
Why don't you actually read the bullshit that HF writes instead of just nodding your head and agreeing. Read it.
I haven't been able to follow the game as much and I am a little bit lost. Do you guys think I'm an asset to town with my usual play? If so, give me some breathing room to do my work so I can post in the thread without having 4 people breathing down my neck asking the same 4 questions.
If I said right now that HF was scum, you guys would say that I am OMGUSing. When you say that it's weird I call him confirmation-biased, you are putting me into a box.
If you think I am scum, vote me out. I won't be mad. If you don't think I am scum, lay off me and let me get back into this game. Sure I had a shitty start, but you guys won't even give me a chance to make up for it
........ Does Corazon even realize what he's saying?
1) He's been reading HF as a lying scum, but suddenly he's a confirmation biased townie
2) Oh wait, what actually matters isn't HF's alignment, but rather how others view Corazon's read on HF
3) Martyring
This is *almost* too dumb for scum... But no, it's just too unbelievable that he would be town.
On December 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 20:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's still more likely for scum to vote poorly than for town.
What kind of a defense is that? Actually if we look at LXIII scum voted a lot better than town. Being right or wrong has no bearing on your alignment. you're wrong, the entire scum team could be found by analysing the BC wagon What I mean is that being correct doesn't mean you're more or less likely to be scum. It's more complicated then that. On December 12 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis who exaclty in your opinion voted poorly? Anyone joining in on the bandwagon despite having a townread on Spaghetti before the bandwagon began. I haven't gone back to check out who yet. i've done that all for you -.- Wasn't your list incomplete? You said so yourself that you hadn't checked it yet for some. On December 12 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you haven't done that yet how can you say "a lot of people" as you seem to not know if there were a lot of people or not? When so many people voted for Spaghetti despite only one person voting for him early on and that being Alakaslam, you can be pretty sure about it. Wow, this is so scummy. Can anyone else see why?
I'd like to hear this one.
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On December 13 2013 05:31 Corazon wrote:
I love how you yell at me for getting mad at people yet get mad at me when I don't agree with you.
How am I mad at you and what are u not agreeing w/ me about?
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On December 13 2013 05:37 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 12 2013 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 21:01 Holyflare wrote:On December 12 2013 20:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 12 2013 20:57 Xatalos wrote:
It's still more likely for scum to vote poorly than for town.
What kind of a defense is that? Actually if we look at LXIII scum voted a lot better than town. Being right or wrong has no bearing on your alignment. you're wrong, the entire scum team could be found by analysing the BC wagon What I mean is that being correct doesn't mean you're more or less likely to be scum. It's more complicated then that. On December 12 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Artanis who exaclty in your opinion voted poorly? Anyone joining in on the bandwagon despite having a townread on Spaghetti before the bandwagon began. I haven't gone back to check out who yet. i've done that all for you -.- Wasn't your list incomplete? You said so yourself that you hadn't checked it yet for some. On December 12 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you haven't done that yet how can you say "a lot of people" as you seem to not know if there were a lot of people or not? When so many people voted for Spaghetti despite only one person voting for him early on and that being Alakaslam, you can be pretty sure about it. Wow, this is so scummy. Can anyone else see why? I'd like to hear this one.
You somehow missed this the first time around? Someone commenting on your top scumspect? It seems like you just have two modes, the mode where you tunnel me and the mode where you randomly stop to not look like you're tunneling. Your suspicions are fake and you will burn.
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On December 13 2013 05:38 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2013 05:31 Corazon wrote:
I love how you yell at me for getting mad at people yet get mad at me when I don't agree with you. How am I mad at you and what are u not agreeing w/ me about?
You would join a sidesprang (I'm sorry I will get your name right eventually) lynch and I want to give him another chance. You are mad at me because I don't agree with you.
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and FWIW cora, I did like ur scumread post. Some of it mirrors my thoughts.
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On December 13 2013 05:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:
and FWIW cora, I did like ur scumread post. Some of it mirrors my thoughts.
Yeah when I read your post I was thinking that we were on the same wavelength. I don't think I will have a problem with you if you keep your word and push a Vayne lynch.
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On December 13 2013 05:29 Corazon wrote:My scumreads from the D1 votes: ( TL;DR is at bottom) HF- I've said a lot about him but he tunnels me for D1 and then throws his vote away on Slam. If he really believed that I was scum, why wouldn't he throw his vote away on me and not on Slam? Xatalos- I've talked about him to death as well, but I found some very interesting stuff in his filter: Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 20:48 Xatalos wrote:By the way, I see Spaghetticus mentioned as a lynch candidate every once in a while. I don't really agree. Just look at these posts: On December 10 2013 22:59 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Kush
Could you give insight into why you think the following people are green:
- Spaghetticus
- Xatalos
- Corazon
- Purpletrator
I'm on the list because while I know my alignment, it seems fairly unanimous that I've done little to demonstrate it. On December 11 2013 02:42 Spaghetticus wrote:On December 11 2013 02:28 Xatalos wrote:Spag, have you catched up with the thread? What about those slight scumreads that you mentioned? By the way, this post made me think you're more likely town: On December 10 2013 22:59 Spaghetticus wrote:
@Kush
Could you give insight into why you think the following people are green:
- Spaghetticus
- Xatalos
- Corazon
- Purpletrator
I'm on the list because while I know my alignment, it seems fairly unanimous that I've done little to demonstrate it. It just seems counter-intuitive to bring pressure on yourself like that for no real reason. They're just single digit contenders on my spreadsheet (on a scale from -100 being mafia, and 100 being town). I adjust scores accordingly after each incident I find interesting. It's more to keep track of my perspective over time, as I often forget the small stuff. It's really not worth talking about, and I don't want scum knowing my reads unless I'm acting on them. I appreciate the town read, though think it's something I'd do as scum too. No I haven't caught up with the thread. I'm still stuck on the same page. I think it's more important to attend to the here and now, and I'm losing focus again (tis 5am). On December 11 2013 16:31 Spaghetticus wrote:Slam if you make a decent case on me I'll reconsider lynching you They all just read to me as town. It's not impossible for this attitude to be a ploy, but the far more likely scenario is that Spag is just not afraid of suspicions at all. Which means town. I also agree with this: On December 11 2013 01:03 Spaghetticus wrote:On December 11 2013 00:55 Corazon wrote:
Plutarch is Marv because all Marv does is tunnel me whenever we are town together. You should just disregard everything he says about me tbh
HF is confirmation biased and refuses to push anyone else besides me. Play the game
Don't call Artanis scum for being right.
Be less bad please. How do you expect to convince anyone with this garbage? So we should take you word for it that not only are you trustworthy, you are able to discern smurfs at a glance, and you deem that this smurf is marv, and you also deem that Marv tunnels you, that he does so unfairly, and we should therefore disregard it? How can you not see that this is too much to swallow? HF is biased because he thinks you're scummy and doesn't change his vote with the wind? Artanis can't be scum because you agree with him on something? You're either making terrible arguments because you're terrible town, or you're just bullshitting to look like you're doing something. Can someone weigh in on how good Corazon is supposed to be? If he's at all capable at mafia I want him hung. The only worrying part is that there isn't much scumhunting in his filter. The previous post is probably the post closest to scumhunting, although it didn't come to any conclusion. On December 11 2013 16:28 Spaghetticus wrote:
I'm surprised Plutarch wants to lynch Slam, but I happen to agree so...
Slam is still not talking sense. It looks to me that he's scaled back the persona just enough to give him a fighting chance of wifoming his eminent demise.
I wanted to find someone better to lynch and I wanted Slam to step up, but neither of these things have happened and I am not unhappy with this direction for day one. I was posturing with my pressure vote, but this doesn't rule out me actually voting him. Alakaslam isn't a terrible lynch, but it's definitely the easiest way out of D1. And it's a bit worrying that Spag's only committal to a lynch is someone like him. Spag, if you're town, you need to step up your scumhunting. You mentioned that you had several slight scumreads, but you haven't shared any of them yet (except Corazon, I'd assume). Otherwise you're looking townish, but that's a worrying part about you. He spent all of this time "defending Spag" and at the same time tells him to play better. He is keeping is options open and is trying to defend Spag without looking like it. Then he goes from this: Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him. To this: Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 05:45 Xatalos wrote:On December 12 2013 05:42 Alakaslam wrote:On December 12 2013 05:41 Xatalos wrote:
I really don't like the Spag wagon. It has both Artanis and purple... And neither of them provided any reasoning for voting him. Bussing exists that's why I linked greyhound. That's true. Since it seems to be between Spag and VA, I agree that Spag is the better choice. ##Unvote
##Vote Spaghetticus In four minutes. He clearly did not believe that Spag was scum, but he voted for him? Why would you vote for someone that you think is town and that you just defended? Artanis also makes a good point when he says that Xatalos voted with 2 people he thought was scum. His words and actions aren't matching, which points to the fact that he doesn't care who is lynched, as long as it isn't him. Grackaroni-Grackaroni is someone who has gone under the radar a bit (besides Rayn OMGUSing him). He is in the same boat as Vayne where they haven't contributed to the discussion and they both haven't justified their votes. His first vote on Kush is trolly, his second vote on Rayn is useless because he only thinks Rayn's vote is dumb and doesn't explain why it makes Rayn scum. Then, he starts to tunnel Slam by voting for him until he switches to Vayne: Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 03:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Geez Vayne actually slipped lol. Un-lynchable scum record goodbye I will take pleasure in this.
##Unvote: Alakaslam
##Vote: VayneAuthority
I don't think it prevents Slam from being scum. The problem is that he never explains why he thinks Slam is scum. He just votes VA but keeps his options open. In my opinion, it is because he wants to hammer Vayne but wants an escape just in case the lynch goes south. All of this along with his lack of contribution make me really suspicious of him. purpletrator-Purple's play has been ridiculously scummy so far. First off, his scumhunting has been non-existent. He's just shitted up the thread with a whole bunch of nonsense. As said before, his overreaction to LSB's criticism was really suspicious and not very justifiable. Then, there is his justification for his vote: Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 05:39 purpletrator wrote:On December 12 2013 03:50 purpletrator wrote:On December 12 2013 03:48 Plutarch wrote:
can you two drop it please. I could lynch Spag or cora. Cora saying he has notes he could post and then not posting them bothers me. This is where I'm at right now. Heavily swayed by On December 12 2013 03:39 Plutarch wrote:
I don't think Vsynr contradicting himself like that means he has to be scum. I think it is a null tell.
I was hoping some of those who had not commented yet on spag would step up in my absence, but that hasn't really happened.
I still think Spag is going to flip scum. And I am surprised that rayn unvoted to be honest.
When someone does nothing and does not even try to look for scum despite being active that person is likely to be scum. Even though spag says he always starts slow his previous two town games provide direct counter examples to this.
Then when up against it for the lynch he does not provide reads aside from calling kush town. I don't know about you guys but if I was getting lynched as town then I would be desperate to provide as much information to the thread as possible to work off after I flip.
Did this happen? no. He in fact provided zero info to the thread and then left as soon as thread sentiment changed.
Spag is Scum.
Please lynch spag. He completely sheeps Plutarch here and basically says "it's Plutarch's fault my vote is on Spag". He is both acknowledging his lack of scumhunting the fact that he is sheeping. He is trying to divert responsibility for the Spag lynch away from him. From what I have concluded, although Xatalos is the person I would most want to lynch D2, I'm ok with lynching any of these four. TL;DRHF-Throws his vote away after tunneling me, why didn't he vote for me, his top scumread? Xatalos- Stuff I've said before + voted for someone he thought was town Grack- Lack of contribution, tunneling Slam with no explanation and then switching to Vayne but keeping his options open. Purple- Lack of contribution + sheeping Plutarch
That's just a lie. I clearly didn't have Spag in my townreads when I voted for him. I defended him earlier, but was persuaded that his "towntells" weren't hard to fake. And I agreed that he had a good chance of flipping scum hours before the lynch.
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You were persuaded way too easily by Slam. You went from thinking the wagon was bad to joining the wagon just because Slam made a WIFOM statement on the possibility of bussing.
If you didn't think Spag was town, why didn't you push his lynch? Why did you make that big post defending him?
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Jar why do you think Kush is okay other than voting for Spag? He's intentionally made himself very difficult to read, which can only correspond with a scum agenda.
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On December 13 2013 05:40 JarJarDrinks wrote:
and FWIW cora, I did like ur scumread post. Some of it mirrors my thoughts. Specifically about purple and a little about Xatalos. HF is pretty town to me so I definately dont agree w/ you there. NOt sure about the grack case. Gonna reread him.
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On December 13 2013 05:45 Corazon wrote:
You were persuaded way too easily by Slam. You went from thinking the wagon was bad to joining the wagon just because Slam made a WIFOM statement on the possibility of bussing.
If you didn't think Spag was town, why didn't you push his lynch? Why did you make that big post defending him?
I've already explained all of this, but clearly you don't read before making cases.
That's to be expected though.
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