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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 06 2013 18:20 GMT
#1561
Order because I made my case and pointed out he attacked me for semantics. I didn't feel the need to make a new case
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 06 2013 18:25 GMT
#1562
That's a really weak defense of yourself OWB... relying on Storr's possible "information bias" as your ONLY defense is really bad. Not only that but it comes RIGHT after I've been beating up Storr about it as if you were waiting to see what came out of that discussion..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 06 2013 18:26 GMT
#1563
On November 07 2013 03:20 StorrZerg wrote:
Order because I made my case and pointed out he attacked me for semantics. I didn't feel the need to make a new case


Yeah, you're right, sorry. Also sorry but I can't really understand Odin's post at all...
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 06 2013 18:28 GMT
#1564
I'm caught up now, although I don't feel like posting much analysis because there's not a terrific amount to say.. At the moment, onlywonderboy is definitely the best lynch; and Storr is definitely the best lynch afterwards if he flips town. If scum, I'm not sure who my preferred lynch would be - maybe Odin?

After reading since the beginning of n1 to current over the past hour and a half or so, I really haven't gotten much of a scum read from Storr and Von. Like, they're scummy... because it makes sense for them to be scum? nyxnyxnyx is too yolo, I don't have much of a scumread on him. Balla has been driving town the entire time, him being scum, I won't even consider unless it was lylo. Cake seems very townie throughout, definitely don't want to kill him.

Yeah I dunno. Things feel like they're going a little too smoothly, but frankly, I'd be very surprised to see owb flip town at this point - and if he properly flips scum, Storr and Von look quite a bit better on d2- and they didn't look particularly awful, to me. They're just the only reasonable "other scum". E00e, nyxnyxnyx, and Odin are... possibilities after owb flips scum, I think I'd prefer to look into the three of them rather than Storr/Von if that occurs.

Lynching Storr after an owb townflip, though, clears up how we should feel about nyxnyxnyx, and many other people are implicated. As such blah blah bad logic,

but I think owb is the best lynch today, however much Storr has been in question throughout. I'm sorta bad so /grains of salt and all and you can tease me after the game, but as of right now, Storr doesn't really seem as bad as I had thought, so I would quietly recommend not lynching him today.

(If OWB flips town, we autolynch him, though.)
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 06 2013 18:30 GMT
#1565
blah blah disjointed thoughts

tl;dr , lynching OWB today looks like the best idea to me, after re-evaluating the activities of n1 through present.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 06 2013 18:40 GMT
#1566
On November 07 2013 03:25 Balla24 wrote:
That's a really weak defense of yourself OWB... relying on Storr's possible "information bias" as your ONLY defense is really bad. Not only that but it comes RIGHT after I've been beating up Storr about it as if you were waiting to see what came out of that discussion..

lol it's all I got. Storr told me to skip the part where I talk about being busy because I've done that all game long, and despite it being true he's right, it doesn't help my case. I can't defend myself well because I played like shit. It's hard to post original content when I come back to the thread and things I think on my own have already been said by someone else. Should have just not said anything I guess.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 06 2013 18:48 GMT
#1567
Why can't you post your own reads now.. you still hav. 6 Hours
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 06 2013 18:52 GMT
#1568
Well, rather than not say anything, under the quite reasonable assumption that you are going to get lynched today basically no matter what, what are your opinions on the people that have pushed you? Have they pushed you in a townie or scummy way? If your goal is only to survive and nothing else, you are likely doomed no matter what. As far as general reads, admittedly, it's probably difficult to come up with anything original at this point. If you have any specific avenues to go down, though, if you flipped town, they'd likely be considered. You haven't really helped town much this game which is why you're going to be lynched today; honestly, I quite doubt that a burst of activity would save you. IMO, the only thing you can do to help town win is to actually sit down and invest some time playing the game; rather than trying to engage people in conversation, do some reading and writing.

In the absence of that, just not saying anything is fine, since you're not going to get out of this lynch. I feel it would be disappointing to yourself afterwards though - assuming a town flip, if you were able to look at your own play and truthfully say: "I was not of (much ^^) use this game, and was mislynched for it."

if you're mafia pls disregard the above and die :> and if you're town and the above sounds sorta harsh, sorry :>
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#1569
Still think OWB is the best vote at this point, still looks the scumiest to me, his defense post was horrible and gave nothing besides I feels like its either storr or me and then votes storr, also I still think the vote tells the town the most information no matter how it flips though I don't think it will flip town, I feel if he was town he would be try to defending himself a lot more than this and try to give actual reads on people to help the town when he does end up dying.


Not really sure on 3rd mafia, Odin looked somewhat suspicious with his posting towards OWB and Poofter but other than that he seemed sorta town(though a lot of his reads were townies but had good reasoning for some). If OWB isn't mafia(I just don't see his happening though) then I think Odin is in the clear(and storr would prob be mafia) but the pairing does make sense to me when OWB flips mafia. E00e and Nyx seems less likely than Odin as 3rd but still possibilities. I still think Balla/Cake def town and I don't see Storr working with OWB.



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LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 06 2013 19:53 GMT
#1570
Vote Count

StorrZerg (2): nyxnyxnyx, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, Balla24, onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy (5): Vonthin, Balla24, nyxnyxnyx, StorrZerg, Obzy, E00e

Not voting (2): OdinOfPergo, Balla24

Currently onlywonderboy is set to be lynched. With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

This game uses Majority Lynch. Voting is mandatory. Please format your vote properly as such:
##Vote: Marv
Please
##Unvote first when changing your vote.

Day 3 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 06 2013 21:35 GMT
#1571
##vote onlywonderboy

Absent defense... unreal...
cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 06 2013 21:36 GMT
#1572
First thing that came to mind after reading Storr's defense was "ZOMG SAME BS AGAIN" and I kinda raged silently...

After calming down and rereading it (and thinking some more) though, it's become easier to imagine Storr being town. Thinking from a town perspective, it's not too unreasonable for Storr to act like he did. Point is, I'm more comfortable waiting for owb to flip before I worry about Storr any further.

Plus owb really is scummy, he barely posts anything helpful in the rare times he does post. His last point about Storr might be worth considering if he flips town, but otherwise it seems more like last minute misdirection.

owb, please try and give us whatever you can. We'd value the logic with trustworthy intentions if you do flip town.


##Unvote
##Vote: onlywonderboy
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 06 2013 21:45 GMT
#1573
It's really really sad that i'm 100% comfortable with this unanimous lynch...
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 06 2013 22:06 GMT
#1574
The only thing that worries me about it is how obvious it is.

##voteonlywonderboy
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 06 2013 22:07 GMT
#1575
Oh, I did spend some time thinking about what I said last night. I think I was really just trying to pull at straws. It doesn't make any sense. Maby the D1 thing was just a mis-play. But D2 I think I was way overthinking.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
November 06 2013 22:12 GMT
#1576
correcting my vote format. ##vote: onlywonderboy
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 06 2013 22:30 GMT
#1577
Vote Count

StorrZerg (1): nyxnyxnyx, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, Balla24, onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy (8): Vonthin, Balla24, nyxnyxnyx, StorrZerg, Obzy, E00e, cakemanofdoom, OdinOfPergo, Balla24

Currently onlywonderboy is set to be lynched. With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

This game uses Majority Lynch. Voting is mandatory. Please format your vote properly as such:
##Vote: Marv
Please
##Unvote first when changing your vote.

Day 3 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 06 2013 23:37 GMT
#1578
Think OWB is to smart to post anything at this point, the more he says the more we get out of finding who the third scum is, if he was town he def would've started his defense and said who he thought was scummy when he posted earlier today.
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
November 07 2013 01:03 GMT
#1579
Night 3


onlywonderboy the Mafia goon was lynched

Vote Count

StorrZerg (1): nyxnyxnyx, Balla24, cakemanofdoom, Balla24, onlywonderboy
onlywonderboy (8): Vonthin, Balla24, nyxnyxnyx, StorrZerg, Obzy, E00e, cakemanofdoom, OdinOfPergo, Balla24

You have 24 hours

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:04 GMT
#1580
Fuck yeah~~~
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