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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#1601
i wouldn't put it past the set up to have sometime of medic as well though. i find it hard to imagine that mafia have a role blocker and town only 1 blue.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#1602
Nah I have faith. Directing blues just makes everything confusing for them.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:46 GMT
#1603
On November 07 2013 10:41 StorrZerg wrote:
i wouldn't put it past the set up to have sometime of medic as well though. i find it hard to imagine that mafia have a role blocker and town only 1 blue.


Storr: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

There can be up to 3 blues in the setup we have. Although unlikely, because that means there would have to be 2 1 shots who haven't used their roles yet (since they would have claimed). There is probably 2 roles.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:48 GMT
#1604
So for my circle right now of people i trust.

I have
Obzy (IC)
Balla (obvious townie)
Cake (been leaning town on him nearly all game)

and i want to add Vonthin, i wanted to add him before the flip since he was feeling better and better. After the flip im feeling pretty safe on adding him to my circle. (seems pretty far for him to defend myself and sack OWB)

This leaves E00e (who got RB)
nyxnyxnyx who was shady as hell day 2, better day 3.
Odin who i've made a case against.


tbh i think we should pressure all 3, and see what happens.
ATM i dislike Odin the most
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:50 GMT
#1605
On November 07 2013 10:46 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 10:41 StorrZerg wrote:
i wouldn't put it past the set up to have sometime of medic as well though. i find it hard to imagine that mafia have a role blocker and town only 1 blue.


Storr: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

There can be up to 3 blues in the setup we have. Although unlikely, because that means there would have to be 2 1 shots who haven't used their roles yet (since they would have claimed). There is probably 2 roles.


not sure exactly how to read this.

so are you saying its possible to have 3 blue roles ( 2 of them have to be 1 shots) or have 2 roles that are full?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:51 GMT
#1606
K well i'm set on claiming near the end of the night.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:53 GMT
#1607
My town circle:

Obzy
Nyx
E00
Storr
Vonthin

Leaves:

odin
cake

I would clear cake but I've been feeling fishy about him recently. Reason I clear E00 is because he took Vonthin/Owb and voted OWB each time. I clear nyx because its nyx and I have a good feeling about him.

Cake has been questioning me a lot and the case on you yesterday felt a bit weird. He's playing a great mafia if it is him because I've read his filter a hell of a lot since that case and I couldn't find anything incriminating really...
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 07 2013 01:53 GMT
#1608
I completely agree with your post several, storr - like, it's basically exactly the way I've been thinking throughout today.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:55 GMT
#1609
On November 07 2013 10:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 10:46 Balla24 wrote:
On November 07 2013 10:41 StorrZerg wrote:
i wouldn't put it past the set up to have sometime of medic as well though. i find it hard to imagine that mafia have a role blocker and town only 1 blue.


Storr: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

There can be up to 3 blues in the setup we have. Although unlikely, because that means there would have to be 2 1 shots who haven't used their roles yet (since they would have claimed). There is probably 2 roles.


not sure exactly how to read this.

so are you saying its possible to have 3 blue roles ( 2 of them have to be 1 shots) or have 2 roles that are full?


Yep.. so essentially at the beginning of the game the mod rolls 7 100 sided dice. Each dice has a chance to land a role or a T (vanilla townie). The # of Ts decides the strength of the mafia team, higher T means less powerful mafia team because that means there are less blue roles, lower T means stronger mafia team since there are more blue roles etc etc.

Mafia learns the setup possibilities VERY early since they know their team composition and thus the # of Ts. In this game, its 2G 1RB so we know it's TTTT.

That means that there were 3 rolls that did NOT land T. So exactly what you said.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:57 GMT
#1610
would you mind explaining why nyx is not possible or E00e?

I feel its a bit wrong to only focus on Odin tomorrow

(i know you put cake as a possible but even at this point, he is contributing far more than either of those 2)
I know im moving up on your list from this past lynch, so i ask you to consider my read on cake as town as well as my negative points about E00e and nyx.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:57 GMT
#1611
I also clear E00 because he was RB and brought up good discussion around the RB, which is another reason I'm feeling iffy on cake, since he immediately dismissed my situation with OWB being scum because of it. He's done that on a few things.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 01:58 GMT
#1612
I will in a sec here Storr need to put some pizza in the oven
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#1613
again i won't have much time to help out this weekend. It will be very hard for me to contribute as much time as i currently have to this game. So ill try and help out as much as i can before i sleep tonight. (tomorrow shouldn't be to bad either for me, but fri/sat would be kinda bad)
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 02:02 GMT
#1614
On November 07 2013 10:57 StorrZerg wrote:
would you mind explaining why nyx is not possible or E00e?

I feel its a bit wrong to only focus on Odin tomorrow

(i know you put cake as a possible but even at this point, he is contributing far more than either of those 2)
I know im moving up on your list from this past lynch, so i ask you to consider my read on cake as town as well as my negative points about E00e and nyx.


Alright, nyx is a purely feeling read, mixed with a few unlikely interactions with poofter if he was scum and also a few unlikely interactions with OWB. He's not the greatest townie, but he's been giving me good vibes all game. He's improved a lot since last game and I can tell he's trying to do so.

E00 should be clear because he claimed being roleblocked, and he voted OWB on day2 and day3 specifically to clear Vonthin without much discussion. That's totally not scum play. He also generated discussion around his roleblocked, which I feel if a mafia fake claimed RB he wouldn't do. Just claim and go on. I get good feelings from him.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 02:12 GMT
#1615
Nyx/E00 took pretty hard stances against OWB. Their votes were super early each time. Doesn't look like possible busses.

Cake's case on you yesterday totally looked like it could have been a desperation attempt to save OWB, how he begs, etc...
Odin just looks bad since day2 end...

I'm pretty sure those should be our only 2 options.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 02:14 GMT
#1616
Also I want to add... i've ALSO had a huuuuuuuuge townread on cake this entire game. I'm only reconsidering because of day3 posts.. it's not a strong read at all.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
November 07 2013 02:21 GMT
#1617
I think

Obzy
Cake
Balla
Storr

are all strong town.


Weaker town reads are:

E00e and Nyx, I think they are townish but that wouldn't surprise me if they ended up being mafia


Odin is my biggest suspect for last mafia, I already made my case awhile ago. Plus his posting today I sorta got the feel he didn't want to vote for OWB


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cakemanofdoom
Profile Joined September 2009
336 Posts
November 07 2013 02:33 GMT
#1618
Haha yeah, in hindsight that last case on Storr wasn't too logical of me. I'd been tunneling him way too hard and I wanted him dead so badly.

Also Balla, if you think I've been questioning you too much it's because I've been paranoid this whole game of you since we're screwed if the most active townie/everyone's strongest townread happened to be mafia.

Paranoia and tunneling ftw.

Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 02:44 GMT
#1619
I mean, you questioning me isn't particularly scummy, its just that you chose to question me on reasoning of why i've been considering OWB more scummy then others. But then again you've been very confrontational on stretched reasoning all game, so it's not THAT scummy. I just have to consider it, you know? ^_^ Chances are we lynch Odin and we win anyways..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 07 2013 02:47 GMT
#1620
On November 07 2013 11:21 Vonthin wrote:
I think

Obzy
Cake
Balla
Storr

are all strong town.


Weaker town reads are:

E00e and Nyx, I think they are townish but that wouldn't surprise me if they ended up being mafia


Odin is my biggest suspect for last mafia, I already made my case awhile ago. Plus his posting today I sorta got the feel he didn't want to vote for OWB




I also got that feel. His activity dropped SIGNIFICANTLY after we lynched poofter and his case on Jonny failed... he was so hesitant today, didn't even make a case on OWB like usually does with his lynch targets. So hesitant. And if OWB is any indication to the scum team's attitude... Odin fits the bill.
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