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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 27 2013 02:27 GMT
#121
So few terrans left
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3027 Posts
April 27 2013 02:32 GMT
#122
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.

And that's just it. Bo3 is a time saving format, not one that finds the best player at the event. Bo5s should come sooner. If you've made it to the ro8 (i'd honestly say even the ro16) out of 96 players, you deserve a bo5.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 02:35:10
April 27 2013 02:33 GMT
#123
--- Nuked ---
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 02:36:33
April 27 2013 02:36 GMT
#124
My prediction <3
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Ro16
CoCa>Stephano
Leenock>Grubby
Puzzle>HerO
Hyun>Sase
Naniwa>TLO
Kas>Sortof
Gumiho>Huk
Jaedong>Verdi

RO8
CoCa>Leenock
Puzzle>Hyun
Kas>Naniwa
Jaedong>Gumiho

Ro4
Puzzle>CoCa
Jaedong>Kas

Final
Jaedong>Puzzle

Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 27 2013 02:42 GMT
#125
--- Nuked ---
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50433 Posts
April 27 2013 02:47 GMT
#126
I believe in Jae Jae.

and apparently I need to start rooting for puzzle.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
April 27 2013 02:53 GMT
#127
On April 27 2013 11:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.

And that's just it. Bo3 is a time saving format, not one that finds the best player at the event. Bo5s should come sooner. If you've made it to the ro8 (i'd honestly say even the ro16) out of 96 players, you deserve a bo5.


GSL doesn't have to be played in 2 days.
BW forever || Thall
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1798 Posts
April 27 2013 03:00 GMT
#128
HuK vs GuMiho =[ DH was going so good for me (in terms of predictions) til this happened (and JaeDong in the next match over too).
@MasterDalK | Maelstrom Entertainment | Streaming Every Esport Under the Sun
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 27 2013 03:03 GMT
#129
Poll: Who do you think will win DreamHack?

Leenock (206)
 
34%

NaNiwa (115)
 
19%

GuMiho (51)
 
8%

Stephano (50)
 
8%

Jaedong (38)
 
6%

HerO (33)
 
5%

TLO (28)
 
5%

Grubby (18)
 
3%

HuK (13)
 
2%

CoCa (9)
 
1%

SaSe (8)
 
1%

Kas (8)
 
1%

Puzzle (7)
 
1%

HyuN (7)
 
1%

SortOf (7)
 
1%

Verdi (7)
 
1%

605 total votes

Your vote: Who do you think will win DreamHack?

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): CoCa
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Puzzle
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): HyuN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): SortOf
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Verdi
(Vote): Jaedong


Poll: Who do you want to win DreamHack?

NaNiwa (166)
 
31%

TLO (69)
 
13%

Leenock (56)
 
10%

Grubby (56)
 
10%

Jaedong (43)
 
8%

Stephano (42)
 
8%

HerO (23)
 
4%

HuK (23)
 
4%

GuMiho (16)
 
3%

Kas (13)
 
2%

SaSe (9)
 
2%

Verdi (6)
 
1%

CoCa (5)
 
1%

SortOf (4)
 
1%

Puzzle (3)
 
1%

HyuN (3)
 
1%

537 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win DreamHack?

(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): CoCa
(Vote): Leenock
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Puzzle
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): HyuN
(Vote): SaSe
(Vote): TLO
(Vote): NaNiwa
(Vote): Kas
(Vote): SortOf
(Vote): HuK
(Vote): GuMiho
(Vote): Verdi
(Vote): Jaedong

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justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
April 27 2013 03:08 GMT
#130
so I went to twitch for vods, there seems to be one upload with 3 hours of D1 and few other short ones with just music w/o games. Shouldnt there be more?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 03:11:05
April 27 2013 03:09 GMT
#131
head: gumiho
heart: totallynotegnaniwa
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
April 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#132
Is Polt seriously out!?!? O.o
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
April 27 2013 03:12 GMT
#133
Head: Leenock or possibly GuMiho
Heart: HyuN or GuMiho (Leenock has won enough tournaments already, give others a chance :p)
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ThreeSixDrew
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada183 Posts
April 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#134
Day 1 was amazing. Day 2 can only be better! Foreingers fighting!
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
April 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#135
On April 27 2013 12:10 dynwar7 wrote:
Is Polt seriously out!?!? O.o

Yeah he got protossed.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 27 2013 03:24 GMT
#136
Gumiho to win it all!
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 03:29:39
April 27 2013 03:28 GMT
#137
bo3 to the finals wow is it 2010 again

sigh
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 07:31:34
April 27 2013 03:45 GMT
#138
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Totally agree with this.


On April 27 2013 11:32 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 11:24 Rostam wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:51 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:36 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 27 2013 10:23 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:46 Noocta wrote:
Personnal predictions

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


that would be very Boring, indeed.

really? I think the only way that could be better is if Jaedong beat Verdi, but I'd love to see a Leenock vs Gumiho finals


edit: and yeah, these gaping holes in tournament formats are getting quite old. It's 2013 and we still have a bo3 bracket and coin flips. Can't get much more retarded. At least we have a good ro16 player pool, or it would be a total laughable disaster.


Why should the fact that it's 2013 change those things? Has time slowed down? They have a lot of games to run and a limited amount of time to run them in. They can't do every game bo37 and they can't do endless tiebreakers.

Seriously, "laughable disaster"? Wow.


Lol. GSL never had to flip a coin to decide who advances from their groups.


I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous blank statement. The only reason GSL doesn't have coinflip situations occur is because they have fewer matches in the group stages. They don't let every player face eachother which makes it less fair (if fair is defined as having the best players advancing from the group). In a GSL style format, this is what would have happened:

Yugioh > Strelok
Lucifron > Timestamp

Lucifron > Yugioh
Strelok > Timestamp

Strelok > Yugioh

Lucifron and Strelok advances. The reason Strelok advances over Yugioh (even though they're 1-1 in matches) is because he happened to win those matches in the "correct order". How does that makes sense? Yugioh also suffers from having to play a tougher opponent in Lucifron, while Strelok is matched up against Timestamp. The reason Lucifron advances is because he never had to play Strelok, against whom he would've lost. How is that fair?

Seriously, Dreamhack goes to great length trying to determine the rightful winners of the groups. They allow for more matches than GSL, which makes it more fair. However, at some point they just can't keep letting the players play tie-breakers.

Cliff notes:
Stop bitching about coinflips, Dreamhack's group format is better than GSL's for determining the best players. That's not even up for debate. If anything, argue that Dreamhack's format is too time consuming or that coinflips look bad for the casual and uneducated viewer.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 27 2013 03:54 GMT
#139
Polt is out? Huk and Grubby through?

Wtf is going on here
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
April 27 2013 04:02 GMT
#140
On April 27 2013 12:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Polt is out? Huk and Grubby through?

Wtf is going on here

Polt said he was incredibly distracted mentally and simply couldn't focus well enough in his best match-up. Sad to say as a Polt fan, but he just slumped hard today.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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