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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18216 Posts
On June 17 2012 02:44 HiroPro wrote: Correction: All applications must be submitted to the Bastard Moderators via PM with the subject "House Chezinu, 5th Party Application". I strongly urge everybody to spam the mods with crap like this. PS. 6th party House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is now also accepting applications. Benefits are the same as for joining House Chezinu and the application process is similar. Please send Zephirdd a PM with the subject "House HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES, 6th party Application", containing a long wall of text cleverly written so the first letter of each sentence spells "prince of bell air". PPS. The board of directors of House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is not responsible for any actions of its potential members and wants to excuse itself to Zephirdd and other mods for any potential harm come from this post. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Ok everyone listen up. Here's what's happening: Mass Encrypted Roleclaim (1) Go to http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/javascrypt.html (2) Type in your role and win condition (I recommend doing this separately) (3) Post the encrypted message here, and store the key somewhere you won't lose it. (4) Play the game out normally (5) In the event that you are going to claim your role and win condition, do so by posting the key to your encrypted message __________________________ What this accomplishes: This forces scum to fake claim NOW. They cannot wait to see what kinds of roles are in the game. They cannot wait to see what kind of win conditions are in the game. They must come up with whatever lie they want to make on Night 0. This is way harder than coming up with a good situational lie later in the game. It doesn't hurt town at all. Scum gets no information from it, because everyone participates. Important points: EVERYONE PARTICIPATES. No exceptions. It doesn't hurt you if you're town, it only makes scum squirm a little. Even if you are vanilla townie, write "I am vanilla tonwie blahblahblah" EVERYONE DOES THIS NIGHT 0. No exceptions. The longer you wait the more information scum gets to figure out how best to fake their role. NO ONE POSTS THEIR KEY UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY. This should be obvious. But unless you're on the chopping block to be lynched, don't post your key. ______________________ I'll start: My role: + Show Spoiler + ##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ ZZZZZ UNUAF LVWWX VTNWQ RSJRQ UFHSW SECDA VUMEN VLUEB OSEUB USPRE FBTBC NSPMB JOQFQ FWCIP DKMNV VUTQO GNBTP COMCC ATUGP RFRRK HQPAH WWXJL OSDUD ETCWT GLNBA OMRJM UHDKR DVTPV SJSJU XOHVN IRJRW HIFMR EFXKG GDNQP QRFML MJSAC EJASQ SKGWF BKAOU JHHGH DVDCP FGLMW EMSUS PGWVP FPQHP TJSME EDFHA BQWEX LXQKC SEQFL XPGNN PKWFE NMKAN DCSBL LPAET WTGAW PIMHS LDATX XXTDE WABHD QKTFL QAICQ MWNFE LOWUD XOBKQ SXXEU CUTLQ LTKTC QMOEN UOHRV XWGJG WCSNT XBTGC MWGVN DAKLI ASWIS SURSG MBAIW MLAFC HOXEH IEVNU MDIKP MWUHX QLDAT PWALQ VTMXL PPDKE NGTXG JMHCA BDUAT SUKXQ OHTRU PASDO VJSDX GLADE UTSTS GKFQE LWGUM XCPNO MIMGK OJTGR IASQP OXMDT ODOWN JQXMQ IKSMC FVNBV HLLVW NFNPW INDCM HRSMX AANDE SIKGO UQBRR URSIW WTBRJ GBGKB ABDFP UWKGE OHXKL RFSFD CWBMD PMOMC UWLUD WNRDJ FPLLM NQJBU JASEO UJWVB VQWWC TVXGS HGDJF NCMSA ILAPU WNZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message My win condition: + Show Spoiler + ##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ ZZZZZ WXIAB HUWXM RSKDQ RDONU VCNWX AWIQJ QLNUJ CLSUA EXJNS DBHGN ABXXC JRBIF PHFBC CBMCV GKTJU WVMAQ ONXAW GQDII GQJWB BJLSO WSBTB MRVHH UXJWH SLMWV CHWMH LNKHU MHVHJ JUFCS MHPHX BKINW TOOLR PTBSJ HEQNP BMLEQ CTTBG SJBEQ LWXLR ODXAN FMBRX IMQQD NUMQI FXKFB RHTTT RUQUW ISARE UDUIJ GHKHR DRLDC SIXOW RDEXQ HDIVW HPVHQ FHFIG CKWBK KEWDR VDUXL HFQIR MAWBC UBTFP URJFA RLFSN LFDOE WFMNG LOSSS UCGOQ UGUVU CODHO NQMHE PHLQQ ECGLV PSZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message Note: I added some spam text in the middle of my mesage in order to get longer results. I suggest you all do the same. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Encryption of roles are not allowed here. While it was good for another game, it's abusable and cuts a part of the game's mechanic. I don't know about other games, but they will not be allowed here. If you ever post and encrypted code, do not post the key to it here until after the game. Also, discussion about this subject should be left for another thread. For this game, this is how it is. I apologize for the tone of this post. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:33 Acrofales wrote: I strongly urge everybody to spam the mods with crap like this. PS. 6th party House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is now also accepting applications. Benefits are the same as for joining House Chezinu and the application process is similar. Please send Zephirdd a PM with the subject "House HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES, 6th party Application", containing a long wall of text cleverly written so the first letter of each sentence spells "prince of bell air". PPS. The board of directors of House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is not responsible for any actions of its potential members and wants to excuse itself to Zephirdd and other mods for any potential harm come from this post. Please disregard any and all such posts from Acrofales the Compulsive Liar, self-identified enemy of House Chezinu, 5th Party. On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote: I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201. If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future. Your offer of alliance is accepted. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:35 talismania wrote: Fuck yes I'm town for once. Ok everyone listen up. Here's what's happening: Mass Encrypted Roleclaim (1) Go to http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/javascrypt.html (2) Type in your role and win condition (I recommend doing this separately) (3) Post the encrypted message here, and store the key somewhere you won't lose it. (4) Play the game out normally (5) In the event that you are going to claim your role and win condition, do so by posting the key to your encrypted message __________________________ What this accomplishes: This forces scum to fake claim NOW. They cannot wait to see what kinds of roles are in the game. They cannot wait to see what kind of win conditions are in the game. They must come up with whatever lie they want to make on Night 0. This is way harder than coming up with a good situational lie later in the game. It doesn't hurt town at all. Scum gets no information from it, because everyone participates. Important points: EVERYONE PARTICIPATES. No exceptions. It doesn't hurt you if you're town, it only makes scum squirm a little. Even if you are vanilla townie, write "I am vanilla tonwie blahblahblah" EVERYONE DOES THIS NIGHT 0. No exceptions. The longer you wait the more information scum gets to figure out how best to fake their role. NO ONE POSTS THEIR KEY UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY. This should be obvious. But unless you're on the chopping block to be lynched, don't post your key. ______________________ I'll start: My role: + Show Spoiler + ##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ ZZZZZ UNUAF LVWWX VTNWQ RSJRQ UFHSW SECDA VUMEN VLUEB OSEUB USPRE FBTBC NSPMB JOQFQ FWCIP DKMNV VUTQO GNBTP COMCC ATUGP RFRRK HQPAH WWXJL OSDUD ETCWT GLNBA OMRJM UHDKR DVTPV SJSJU XOHVN IRJRW HIFMR EFXKG GDNQP QRFML MJSAC EJASQ SKGWF BKAOU JHHGH DVDCP FGLMW EMSUS PGWVP FPQHP TJSME EDFHA BQWEX LXQKC SEQFL XPGNN PKWFE NMKAN DCSBL LPAET WTGAW PIMHS LDATX XXTDE WABHD QKTFL QAICQ MWNFE LOWUD XOBKQ SXXEU CUTLQ LTKTC QMOEN UOHRV XWGJG WCSNT XBTGC MWGVN DAKLI ASWIS SURSG MBAIW MLAFC HOXEH IEVNU MDIKP MWUHX QLDAT PWALQ VTMXL PPDKE NGTXG JMHCA BDUAT SUKXQ OHTRU PASDO VJSDX GLADE UTSTS GKFQE LWGUM XCPNO MIMGK OJTGR IASQP OXMDT ODOWN JQXMQ IKSMC FVNBV HLLVW NFNPW INDCM HRSMX AANDE SIKGO UQBRR URSIW WTBRJ GBGKB ABDFP UWKGE OHXKL RFSFD CWBMD PMOMC UWLUD WNRDJ FPLLM NQJBU JASEO UJWVB VQWWC TVXGS HGDJF NCMSA ILAPU WNZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message My win condition: + Show Spoiler + ##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/ ZZZZZ WXIAB HUWXM RSKDQ RDONU VCNWX AWIQJ QLNUJ CLSUA EXJNS DBHGN ABXXC JRBIF PHFBC CBMCV GKTJU WVMAQ ONXAW GQDII GQJWB BJLSO WSBTB MRVHH UXJWH SLMWV CHWMH LNKHU MHVHJ JUFCS MHPHX BKINW TOOLR PTBSJ HEQNP BMLEQ CTTBG SJBEQ LWXLR ODXAN FMBRX IMQQD NUMQI FXKFB RHTTT RUQUW ISARE UDUIJ GHKHR DRLDC SIXOW RDEXQ HDIVW HPVHQ FHFIG CKWBK KEWDR VDUXL HFQIR MAWBC UBTFP URJFA RLFSN LFDOE WFMNG LOSSS UCGOQ UGUVU CODHO NQMHE PHLQQ ECGLV PSZZZ YYYYY ##### End encrypted message Note: I added some spam text in the middle of my mesage in order to get longer results. I suggest you all do the same. I'm not going to follow this. Having encrypted posts goes against the spirit of the game, and feels like borderline cheating. I've given out about it before and I also disallow it in any games that I host. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:21 MajuGarzett wrote: Is there a list anywhere of the filters? The two lists I found were just names. The playerlist post in the OP has been updated to include filters. Cheating: Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
I can't hold my liquor so well. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
Now to play normally: KharadBanar On June 17 2012 03:08 KharadBanar wrote: This whole House Chezinu thing sounds really fishy to me. It's advertised as "all upside, no downside" but we have to claim our role and abilities to get in there, and pledge loyalty to players we don't know the alignment of. In addition, Hiro says nothing about the organisational structure of the House, or if we get any rights/influence if we join, which normally means we don't get jack. I am not at all convinced. On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote: I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201. If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future. So basically what happened here was that you reacted to what HiroPro posted in the thread by yourself, then went to your QT and talked it over with someone else and came back with an alliance offer, no? | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:29 HiroPro wrote: House Chezinu supports its own at all times, especially at times of lynching. In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members). If all it does is support members in lynches is there really any difference between joining House Chezinu and forming an alliance? | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:52 MajuGarzett wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 17 2012 03:29 HiroPro wrote: House Chezinu supports its own at all times, especially at times of lynching. In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members). If all it does is support members in lynches is there really any difference between joining House Chezinu and forming an alliance? In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members). Additionally, alliance support is not absolute. It is merely a recognizance of no open hostilities between House Chezinu, 5th Party and said allied party. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:47 talismania wrote: Sorry for trying to break the setup! PS I will continue making that exact same post in every game I play until TL outright bans it :-) (I held off in bangbang because I was scum there). Now to play normally: KharadBanar So basically what happened here was that you reacted to what HiroPro posted in the thread by yourself, then went to your QT and talked it over with someone else and came back with an alliance offer, no? No it's not. What happened is that HiroPro made two other posts further explaining the concept of House Chezinu, and Nisani201 successfully allied with them without having to full-roleclaim. Realising that this was a possibility (Nisani's offer was accepted after all) I briefly checked the advantages and disadvantages of such an alliance and came to the conclusion that an alliance without giving away sensitive data could be in my best interests. Think of it as House Chezinu being Facebook: You don't want to give Mr. Zuckerberg all you personal information, but if you play against them you can expect to be negatively surprised. (Further parallels of joining House Chezinu, 5th Party and joining Facebook include the agreement to some huge pile of legalese you can't quite understand) | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:55 HiroPro wrote: In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members). Additionally, alliance support is not absolute. It is merely a recognizance of no open hostilities between House Chezinu, 5th Party and said allied party. Who are the board members other than yourself? What are the knowledge archives? If House Chezinu wants members it should release all pertinent information. | ||
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FourFace
701 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:47 talismania wrote: Sorry for trying to break the setup! PS I will continue making that exact same post in every game I play until TL outright bans it :-) (I held off in bangbang because I was scum there). Now to play normally: KharadBanar So basically what happened here was that you reacted to what HiroPro posted in the thread by yourself, then went to your QT and talked it over with someone else and came back with an alliance offer, no? Nah, but what happened here with you was that you knew this encrypted shiznit was for the birds and even anticipated the hosts response and snuck in a "I was mafia in bang bang so that's why i didn't post this shiznit there .. I'm town now so I post it this time" trying to hammer our subconscious into believing you are town after which you make up a story about KharadBanar to create a false buffer of opposition .. in contrast to your "obvious townieness" we should believe he's obviously scummy. A bold and aggressive tactic .. I think you're all crazy. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4389 Posts
Hello all! I am fantabulously confused already. HiroPro I regretfully must pass on your offer for the time being, as you speak of fellow board members who remain undisclosed and speak of supporting members at lynch time regardless of their suspected alignment. Please don't be offended, it's not that I don't trust you, it's that I don't trust you YET. Plus it's hard to trust your associates when I don't know who they are Just out of interest, what did your promotion of VisceraEyes achieve? Was he originally part of your group or did he join up after your recruitment announcement? | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
These questions are essential when debating whether to apply for membership. I would not wish to join an untoward organization. | ||
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KharadBanar
Austria463 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:58 MajuGarzett wrote: Who are the board members other than yourself? What are the knowledge archives? If House Chezinu wants members it should release all pertinent information. If you read HiroPro's posts explaining how House Chezinu operates, you will come to the realisation that this isn't exactly going to happen. If they would tell you everything right from the get-go, they would lose some leverage after all because you don't need to join their organisation to get all that info, no? Everything comes at a price, and you as a Mafia player should be able to understand that. By the way, the reason I am hesitant to give my roleclaim to them is that I Do Not Want potential scum members of the House to see my role. This should go for every townie: If you join The House and a scum member sees your role because of it, you are giving information to the whole scum team. The scum team operates on an information advantage already, and there is no need to let them get further ahead. So don't do it unless you have a good reason. | ||
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