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United States4714 Posts
Palmar since when do I ever tear up the thread finger pointing non stop? I pick one person then I push for their lynch until I find someone I think is more likely scum. I always do that, it is the optimal way to play.
I haven't lied about anything this game. I didn't put a good effort in day 1 but people should read my day 2 posts and really ask themselves if any of my motivations or play was scummy. I mean palmar wtf you say I just went after an easy target in db? Huh? There wasn't a single vote on db before me. And you/chaoser/foolish/etc all agreed my case against him was really good. Ok it looks like it probably ended up being incorrect but instead of being results oriented look at my analysis, look at my thinking and see if I was playing well, see if my thoughts were town oriented. Even though it looks like I was wrong I 100% stand behind everything I said about db. My analysis was good and I was putting in real effort to find scum. If that isn't good enough there is nothing else I can do for the town.
Everyone should look at the reasons people are voting me. Every single person is basically sheeping or using meta reasons. Can anyone tell me anything scummy I did day2 or anything scummy at all about my db case? I put my best effort in yesterday and if you want to lynch me just for being wrong there isn't really anything I can do.
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Iceland22633 Posts
Mig, do you wanna lynch chaos13 with us?
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On August 24 2011 08:41 Palmar wrote:
By the way, chaos13 is on his way to basically abstaining his vote for the second day in a row.
i we can muster enough votes, I'd love a last minute switch to him.
##Unvote Mig
##Vote chaos13
He's at work. Give him an hour.
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United States4714 Posts
I would 100% rather lynch chaos than hiro.
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On August 24 2011 08:46 Palmar wrote:
Mig, do you wanna lynch chaos13 with us?
Come up with the case for chaos13 and stop spamming. I read his posts earlier and I had doubts; due to his inactivity I haven't really thought much of it. I'll go reread now.
Mig, personally I think you're town. I think you'd be of use to us if you come up with some thoughts about who we should lynch, as we've obviously decided we're not going to be lynching DB tonight. We are a little over 2 hours to the deadline and we need inputs from as many people as we can get so we can form well-reasoned votes on the most likely scum.
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Actually fuck it. I was saving this for the end of the night phase but Chaos has not called me scummy this game. The only other times he has done this is because he was on the scum team. I know it sounds lame but he's so damn consistent at it it's funny. I have been watching to see if he chose one of the three main targets over the others but his votes are off in the toolies. Ya I'll lynch Chaos. But I do know he is at work. 
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Deflecting lynch on a lurker , such common tactic. Used by scum , of course .
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bugs, Kurumi, whats wrong? did we find your scum buddy.
both of you have done nothing to produce a good town atmosphere. your both not looking so hot right now...
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On August 24 2011 08:53 Kurumi wrote:
Deflecting lynch on a lurker , such common tactic. Used by scum , of course .
Use you hammer or marshmallow gun or whatever it is on him if you're so confident. Otherwise go play with your dog until you can add something please.
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Iceland22633 Posts
So here's the case on chaos13.
It's based majorly on three things in his play, so I'll just quickly summarize them up now:
a) He complains about bad town atmosphere but does nothing to improve it, in turn becoming part of the problem
b) He's basically abstaining from voting, both on day 1, and now again on day 2, by throwing his votes on random people that aren't in danger of being lynched.
c) He hasn't actually pushed a single lynch hard the entire game.
First off, let's look at his day 1 performance. This is basically what he did. He attacked me for disrupting town atmosphere, but he did nothing to try and remedy the "problem". All he did was throw down the vote on me, and complain some more.
He never really pushed my lynch either, he kinda said he wanted to do it, but never commited to forcing town to do his bidding. Now let's also look at one major slip up on day 1.
On August 21 2011 07:55 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:12 Palmar wrote:
nah, I maintain a list of people I'm fine with lynching.
BrownBear
DropBear
Chaos13
RayzorFlash By now you should know that if you feel like lynching me, I'm probably town :p But seriously, your only reason for being okay with lynching me is because I think you're scum. That is a textbook OMGUS, and I have no idea why everyone seems to think you're so town. You're the reason this thread has been so completely derailed already.
Here's the deal. He says he thinks I am mafia, but the bolded sentences really looks like he believes that my accusations are genuine, the first one is a joke, the other one isn't. If he thinks I'm scum, why on earth would my accusations be genuine.
Chaos13 ends day one with his vote on me on the basis that he thinks I am scum, and yet he fully understands how bad off-votes are for town. He also did the razorflash switch, I don't know if it's to absolve him of responsibility or what, but I don't like it.
The second post I'm going to look specifically at from chaos comes in wake of the DB mess on day 2. He does have some questionable content over the day, just read it up and think about it.
On August 23 2011 21:15 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 20:58 DropBear wrote:
Hell if I can get people to lynch supersoft instead I'd be stoked but Mig is red as hell based on supersoft's actions. This post is the reason I'm inclined not to believe you. I can't see a genuine DT with a red check feeling like they will have trouble getting their red check lynched. This is a guilty mindset. The order of events I would like to see happen right now 1. Lynch DB 2. If blue flip, vig supersoft 3. Suddenly, information - lynch mig. Going back to read all of DropBear's posts before I move my vote to him. Am I still the only one who thinks Foolish is scum? Check this post out Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 12:38 Foolishness wrote:
I spent last night rereading through all of chaoser's past games and all of brownbear's past games. It should be fairly obvious why I did this. I will defend chaoser to the grave if I have to, he's most certainly town. I've never seen a townie be so adamant about defending their town read before. Regardless, I'll drop him for today and focus on what's relevant.
This plan he's giving us is basically the perfect way to continue as mafia. He already knows both supersoft and dropbear won't flip scum, so hell, let's suggest we kill them both!
This is of course based on the assumption they aren't scum, but we need to work with something.
I think chaos 13 is our best lynch today
##Vote Chaos13
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On August 24 2011 08:52 Jackal58 wrote:Actually fuck it. I was saving this for the end of the night phase but Chaos has not called me scummy this game. The only other times he has done this is because he was on the scum team. I know it sounds lame but he's so damn consistent at it it's funny. I have been watching to see if he chose one of the three main targets over the others but his votes are off in the toolies. Ya I'll lynch Chaos. But I do know he is at work.
This is such terrible logic lol
He called me scummy -_- (and asked DB his opinion of me lol...which DB never answered AFAIK)
Also, I agree with Kurumi. Anyone notice that hiro has been "down to lynch" someone very easily all the time in this game? He first did this yesterday, and he's doing it again today.
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Hmm, i'm just gonna stick with hero. Still don't believe he wasn't pushing an agenda.
Also. Palmar isn't chaos playing the same as in Real time mafia. It could be just me but wasn't revolving around EVERYTHING like his last play then or am i missing something:\
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On August 24 2011 08:56 hiro protagonist wrote:
bugs, Kurumi, whats wrong? did we find your scum buddy.
both of you have done nothing to produce a good town atmosphere. your both not looking so hot right now...
Your team is aiming for a no lynch.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Why would we lynch chaos when we have good analysis against 3 players right now? Anyone who is proposing we lynch chaos is only further distracting the town and trying to divert attention away from the matter at hand. Make your case tonight/tomorrow, it's too late now. Don't hurt the town.
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Iceland22633 Posts
On August 24 2011 08:58 Vain wrote:
Hmm, i'm just gonna stick with hero. Still don't believe he wasn't pushing an agenda.
Also. Palmar isn't chaos playing the same as in Real time mafia. It could be just me but wasn't revolving around EVERYTHING like his last play then or am i missing something:\
Thing is in RTM, he actively contributed to creating a good atmosphere, instead of just randomly complaining about it.
yes, he's a very passive player, and I sometimes mistake his passiveness for scummyness, but I'd be more comfortable with lynching him than any of the other targets tonight.
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On August 24 2011 08:58 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 08:56 hiro protagonist wrote:
bugs, Kurumi, whats wrong? did we find your scum buddy.
both of you have done nothing to produce a good town atmosphere. your both not looking so hot right now... Your team is aiming for a no lynch.
So your calling me, mig, and Palmar all scum? Im afraid its your team that is pushing for a mislynch. Your logic is terrible. but thats your intent, am I right?. You have done nothing all game that is protown, and it shows badly.
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Iceland22633 Posts
On August 24 2011 09:01 Foolishness wrote:
Why would we lynch chaos when we have good analysis against 3 players right now? Anyone who is proposing we lynch chaos is only further distracting the town and trying to divert attention away from the matter at hand. Make your case tonight/tomorrow, it's too late now. Don't hurt the town.
I do think we have time to push the chaos13 lynch. He's catching up with the others quite fast, and I think he's a better option than all the others.
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On August 24 2011 09:01 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2011 08:58 Vain wrote:
Hmm, i'm just gonna stick with hero. Still don't believe he wasn't pushing an agenda.
Also. Palmar isn't chaos playing the same as in Real time mafia. It could be just me but wasn't revolving around EVERYTHING like his last play then or am i missing something:\ Thing is in RTM, he actively contributed to creating a good atmosphere, instead of just randomly complaining about it. yes, he's a very passive player, and I sometimes mistake his passiveness for scummyness, but I'd be more comfortable with lynching him than any of the other targets tonight.
Didn't You refuse to lynch hiro based on meta ? Honestly , what the heck is this . Hiro will die anyway , so just accept it .
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Iceland22633 Posts
EBWOP: and town won't be hurt, because myself, and I assume everyone who is attempting this switch, is going to stay awake to switch back if necessary.
But I really favor the chaos13 lynch a lot over the other three.
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