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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 22:38 GMT
#1281
thanks for reassuring me Curu.

I think killing Mig is the right thing.

Town, you know what to do, we need a majority in the next 5 hours. Kill Mig!
Computer says mafia
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 22:44 GMT
#1282
I'm kind of glad I never had to play Town with you past day 1 before this. You are ridiculously stubborn and annoying to deal with.
wat
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 23 2011 22:45 GMT
#1283
can somebody give me the deadline in EST? I need to make plans so that i'm able to switch my vote as needed close to the deadline to prevent a no-lynch.

I still like Hiro as a lynch, I'd consent to switching to Mig if necessary though. xtfftc... i dunno, not seeing the scum there, but any lynch is better than no lynch.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#1284
nvm found it. 22:00 EDT.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#1285
On August 24 2011 07:44 Curu wrote:
I'm kind of glad I never had to play Town with you past day 1 before this. You are ridiculously stubborn and annoying to deal with.


I form opinions, and I then try to objectively read the thread after that, but it's hard. I'm not afraid of being wrong, and I've quite often been right. Maybe this is the game where I'm wrong on all accounts, but I expect others to be able to pick that up.

Also, why do you basically declare me town? Do you know my alignment?
Computer says mafia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
August 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#1286
On August 24 2011 07:45 Varpulis wrote:
can somebody give me the deadline in EST? I need to make plans so that i'm able to switch my vote as needed close to the deadline to prevent a no-lynch.

I still like Hiro as a lynch, I'd consent to switching to Mig if necessary though. xtfftc... i dunno, not seeing the scum there, but any lynch is better than no lynch.

Deadline is 3 hours and 13 minutes from the time of this post
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 23 2011 22:52 GMT
#1287
If I am the leading vote with 10 minutes left. I will switch to myself so there might be a lynch.

Erandorr, It would be great if you could put your vote on ether me or Mig. We need to lynch.

"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
August 23 2011 22:52 GMT
#1288
it looks to be between one of the three main vote getters: xtfftc, Mig, hiro. At this point, everyone should be voting on one of these three.

I'm about to go to a baseball game, so I'm sticking by my analysis and my guns and staying on xtfftc. I'll catch up when I get back.
SUNSFANNED
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 22:56 GMT
#1289
On August 24 2011 07:47 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 07:44 Curu wrote:
I'm kind of glad I never had to play Town with you past day 1 before this. You are ridiculously stubborn and annoying to deal with.


I form opinions, and I then try to objectively read the thread after that, but it's hard. I'm not afraid of being wrong, and I've quite often been right. Maybe this is the game where I'm wrong on all accounts, but I expect others to be able to pick that up.

Also, why do you basically declare me town? Do you know my alignment?


Because I read you as Town and I'm pretty sure scum Palmar wouldn't be trying to antagonize everyone left and right.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#1290
Look at your arguments, you're basically saying hiro is a worse lynch than Mig because of meta arguments and how they play in other games. That's basically it and you're trying to force your opinion down everyone's throats instead of laying out why you think these things.

hiro looks worse than Mig to me, I'd much rather him be the lynch today. I'm trying to explain to you why, you respond with "Curu doesn't want to lynch Mig, so let's lynch Mig."
wat
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
August 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#1291
On August 24 2011 05:08 Erandorr wrote:
has Lucidity asked for replacement already?


Nope. I'm on page 82 now. No way I'm being replaced after reading 50 pages in the last 2 days.
Valar Morghulis
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 23:23 GMT
#1292
On August 24 2011 08:05 Curu wrote:
Look at your arguments, you're basically saying hiro is a worse lynch than Mig because of meta arguments and how they play in other games. That's basically it and you're trying to force your opinion down everyone's throats instead of laying out why you think these things.

hiro looks worse than Mig to me, I'd much rather him be the lynch today. I'm trying to explain to you why, you respond with "Curu doesn't want to lynch Mig, so let's lynch Mig."


What do you want me to say? I have read both arguments, there have been numerous other points about Mig, not only mine. Neither are in no way connected to any of the other tunnels I've had the entire game. I came to this conclusion after re-reading the posts of all three. I don't even understand what your gripe is.
Computer says mafia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 23 2011 23:32 GMT
#1293
Curu, what makes me look like the better lynch? could you give your own reasons? I stand behind the fact that all of my actions are pro town. some people did not like how I responded to people asking me questions. It seems like they dont like my tone. but they never tried to attach my logic. only bugs has so far, and I pointed out why I thought he was wrong.

So lets look at the logic: When I respond to someones question with a 'lol', how does that benefit me if Im Scum. Im drawing attention to myself, and I know Im doing it. Ask yourself, what would a scum gain from doing this.

Now, what would a townie gain from doing this? He is putting himself under scrutiny, and making him a object of conversation. I dont know about you, but I learn alot about how serious someones accusations are when I challenge them. Its a scum hunting strategy.

Palmar is right about my scum meta, but the funny thing is, the same could be said about my town meta. Im super passive, and in all of my past games as town I all ways wondered why I cant be more active. and its because Im to afraid of being wrong that I dont say anything. In RTM I had 3 people in my scum list that where actual scum by the end of the game, but I was afraid to mislynch. I wanted to change that.

My strategy has not panned out as well as I hoped. I think its only good when town has a good atmosphere, and scum are trying to find a easy target to lynch. Sorry I messed it up, but I want to get better at this game, as apposed to playing passively.

@ bugs: your right, I never came though with an analysis on xtfftc. By the time I was able to write one, I no longer thought him to be the best lynch. also, Brownbear put up an excellent that sumed up my thoughts as well.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#1294
We have 8 votes for Mig and 6 for Hiro. They are followed by DropBear and myself with 2 each.

I am leaning towards Hiro at the moment. I can see how his voting pattern might actually make sense for a mafia player. He has taken a stance against pretty much everyone accused, so in a way he has pleased everyone without focusing on a specific target.

Also, this:
On August 24 2011 07:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
If I am the leading vote with 10 minutes left. I will switch to myself so there might be a lynch.

How can a 100% confirmed townie's death be better than a no-lynch? It's not like Hiro's death is going to give us some concrete information.

So,
##Vote: hiro protagonist

I will check the thread before I go to bed in ~45 minutes and I'll switch to Mig if we are facing the prospect of a no-lynch.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 23 2011 23:40 GMT
#1295
Apparently there's 7 votes on Mig, my bad.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
August 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#1296
I thought of something else.

Lynching DropBear tonight shouldn't be mafia's priority. They (probably, I believe Foolishness) have a roleblocker and they can probably snipe someone more dangerous - or DropBear himself.
Before DropBear claimed DT and subsequently medic, Mig was pushing the case against him aggressively. Once DropBear claimed, Mig said nothing more. No reevaluation of his case and no opinion on whether he believes the claim or not. He simply disappeared. I'd like to hear his opinion on this before it's too late.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#1297
By the way, chaos13 is on his way to basically abstaining his vote for the second day in a row.

i we can muster enough votes, I'd love a last minute switch to him.

##Unvote Mig
##Vote chaos13
Computer says mafia
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#1298
On August 24 2011 08:38 xtfftc wrote:
We have 8 votes for Mig and 6 for Hiro. They are followed by DropBear and myself with 2 each.

I am leaning towards Hiro at the moment. I can see how his voting pattern might actually make sense for a mafia player. He has taken a stance against pretty much everyone accused, so in a way he has pleased everyone without focusing on a specific target.

Also, this:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 07:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
If I am the leading vote with 10 minutes left. I will switch to myself so there might be a lynch.

How can a 100% confirmed townie's death be better than a no-lynch? It's not like Hiro's death is going to give us some concrete information.

So,
##Vote: hiro protagonist

I will check the thread before I go to bed in ~45 minutes and I'll switch to Mig if we are facing the prospect of a no-lynch.


cus its all WIFOM after a no lynch. We need info, and someones death is gonna give it to us, whether its me or Mig. how can you not see that?
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 23 2011 23:44 GMT
#1299
Im cool with lynching chaos,

##Unvote Mig
##Vote chaos13
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 23 2011 23:44 GMT
#1300
actually, I was going to bed, I'm going to write a case on chaos13. please take the time to read his posts through.

Let's not fuck this up again, let's lynch chaos13.
Computer says mafia
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