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On June 02 2011 06:23 Varpulis wrote:I've got some thoughts about tonight. - Vigis need to be patient. I feel that it would be very beneficial if we held off on shooting for at least the first night.
- Lurkers and the others on today's lynch list need to get checked, so that's where detective roles should focus
I have no clue what medics should be doing, and giving direct instructions will be beneficial to scum, so I'll let those with protective roles make their own judgements. It's good that BC is willing to work with us. Because scum can't touch you, would you mind sharing the role/alignment in its entirety? From your posts I infer that you're a survivor (3rd party), but the joker doesn't walk around unarmed. If claiming is a bad idea for a reason I'm missing, ignore this request.
Sure, all the complicated stuff was similar to BC's, I would know who he is, but couldnt reveal him or get modkilled. I would copy paste the PM, but that's against the rules.
It makes sense along with BCs role. I can kill every night, so occasionally he might protect them or what not. I also "somehow manage to avoid getting killed". I'm assuming that's a vest of sorts. My alignment is Serial Killer. So I'll target whoever you guys want me to. Lynch me if I don't. I benefit if I hit scum now since you guys mislynched spectacularly, and offed essentially an OP medic role.
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On June 02 2011 06:43 chaos13 wrote:
It worries me that so many of you are accepting Palmar's verdict of me being scum without him providing any evidence of it. Seriously town, step up your game a bit.
At the very least my death will be better than a different townies. One of you out there knows why.
You'll still be killing a townie though.
You have a funny hat and a cigar, and you're holding a submachine gun.
There, my analysis.
Kill him please.
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Get 8 people to say Kill: chaose13, then I will.
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On June 02 2011 06:50 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:23 Varpulis wrote:I've got some thoughts about tonight. - Vigis need to be patient. I feel that it would be very beneficial if we held off on shooting for at least the first night.
- Lurkers and the others on today's lynch list need to get checked, so that's where detective roles should focus
I have no clue what medics should be doing, and giving direct instructions will be beneficial to scum, so I'll let those with protective roles make their own judgements. It's good that BC is willing to work with us. Because scum can't touch you, would you mind sharing the role/alignment in its entirety? From your posts I infer that you're a survivor (3rd party), but the joker doesn't walk around unarmed. If claiming is a bad idea for a reason I'm missing, ignore this request. Sure, all the complicated stuff was similar to BC's, I would know who he is, but couldnt reveal him or get modkilled. I would copy paste the PM, but that's against the rules. It makes sense along with BCs role. I can kill every night, so occasionally he might protect them or what not. I also "somehow manage to avoid getting killed". I'm assuming that's a vest of sorts. My alignment is Serial Killer. So I'll target whoever you guys want me to. Lynch me if I don't. I benefit if I hit scum now since you guys mislynched spectacularly, and offed essentially an OP medic role.
kill mataza. He's scum and when he flips a bunch of other people will be incriminated.
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Guys, chaos13 definitely isn't scum. He's been contributing all game long -- read his frickin' posts.
I thought Palmar was a good guy, but ever since his initial Varpulis analysis he has not done anything else noteworthy. Please stop tunneling and start thinking.
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Yes, the analysis is old, that´s why I´m asking if all the fistpounds gave him a second check.
Btw can you get fistpounds at night too?
##fistpound Palmar
Just in case.
And killing chaos13 should be a nobrainer. Palmar declared himself some sort of fistpound-driven alignment checker. If you flip town, Palmar is marked for death.
Or does anyone want to do it Ace style, first kill the cop and then his claim?
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Kill:Mataza
sorry palmar we have no reason to trust you while a kill on mataza is a kill on analysis and scummy behavior, a kill on chaos is a trusting you for no reason. Post a reason to kill him bro.
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I would say listen to Node. I think he knows what he's talking about.
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Its only a hint based rolecheck Y.Y
Nevermind the killorder then...
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Don't kill Chaos13
Kill Mataza
Thanks for sharing bum. I was suspicious of Chaos13 a while back, but after looking through his posts he looks clean. Don't kill him.
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On June 02 2011 06:53 redFF wrote:
Kill:Mataza
sorry palmar we have no reason to trust you while a kill on mataza is a kill on analysis and scummy behavior, a kill on chaos is a trusting you for no reason. Post a reason to kill him bro.
don't worry bro, I will.
I'm just trolling him, will provide analysis well before daybreak, so vigis, don't jump to your targets.
I can't get fistpounded in the night btw, so do it tomorrow please.
And I'm fine with killing Mataza, I'm assuming we have more than 1 vigi type role.
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On June 02 2011 06:56 Varpulis wrote:
Don't kill Chaos13
Kill Mataza
Thanks for sharing bum. I was suspicious of Chaos13 a while back, but after looking through his posts he looks clean. Don't kill him.
A bus appears!
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On June 02 2011 06:53 Mataza wrote:
And killing chaos13 should be a nobrainer. Palmar declared himself some sort of fistpound-driven alignment checker. If you flip town, Palmar is marked for death.
Or does anyone want to do it Ace style, first kill the cop and then his claim?
Why is it a nobrainer? I've not seen one ounce of real analysis against chaos13, whereas he's been posting good analysis and prodding suspicious people the whole day. I am incredulous that he's suddenly a better vig hit than prplhz, tackster, or Kurumi.
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redFF bro.
Can you help me out on those guys, Node, Bum, Varp, Chaos13?
I'll take a look at Chaos13, can you go analyse bum or node?
Also, now I want bum to kill Varpulis.
They agree on mataza, so let's have bum kill the other, that way we can be sure Bum is cool with working with town. Someone else can take care of Mataza.
Bumatlarge:
Please kill Varpulis
Check it people, those bitches won't know what's up.
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On June 02 2011 06:58 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:56 Varpulis wrote:
Don't kill Chaos13
Kill Mataza
Thanks for sharing bum. I was suspicious of Chaos13 a while back, but after looking through his posts he looks clean. Don't kill him. A bus appears!
huh? I agree that Mataza's scummy and that his death would be useful. Bum has unlimited night hits, and in light of that Mataza's the player i'd suggest killing. Do you want me to post a detailed analysis? I usually don't do that at night.
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On June 02 2011 06:53 Mataza wrote:
And killing chaos13 should be a nobrainer. Palmar declared himself some sort of fistpound-driven alignment checker. If you flip town, Palmar is marked for death.
Or does anyone want to do it Ace style, first kill the cop and then his claim?
Even if he is a DT-type role, I haven't fistpounded him. He has posted nothing to incriminate me so far.
bumatlarge, do you have to kill someone every night? If so, I would suggest either Mataza or GMarshal, but I'll be re-reading a lot of posts during this night phase, and that may change yet.
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What's done is done at this point with the Vis/BC kills. Now, here's some things I would like to suggest for the town. Of course, we have no idea whether these roles exist or not but here's the general suggestion if they do exist:
1. Vote-checker DT - If you have a role which is similar to this one which reveals number of possible mafia is a voting list, do check the vote list of VisceraEyes. It is likely that we have a scum or two in there since it was quite a close lynch with a lot of vote switching going around the end.
If you have something similar also and not necessarily limited to votes, use it on a medium-to-short sized list (relevant to your role) to find/eliminate possible scum from your lists.
2. Inventor-type roles - Police siren radio is an excellent idea from PYP-Insane. It can obviously be modified in context of this game as well.
A secondary idea will be the inventor making a vote-checker device and checking the vote-list on Viscera.
3. Watcher-type roles follow zodiac list to follow those people. I would recommend using BC's zodiac list since he is a confirmed townie now.
4. DT-type roles focus outside the zodiac list.
Of course, it is finally up-to the person with the role to decide what to do with it but it is better to start organizing the town than run like headless chicken asking for vigi-shot for one and everyone.
On that topic, I am also surprised to see so many calls for vigi-hits tonight. Most of the Day1 analysis has been WIFOM. More often than not, Day1 lynch is a townie. So, it is not surprising to see a Day1 town lynch. It is bad that we lost BC as well but that was not caused by scum.
As for the vigi-hits tonight, I recommend using no vigi-hits tonight simply since we do not know how much KP town has and how much KP mafia has. Also, there is a lack of serious scum contenders or any analysis regarding it either so there is no point wasting town KP on what will be a 50-50 chance. All I see is 10 people shouting for vigi-hit on 10 other people without strong analysis or justification.
I am also seriously surprised to see none of the vets in the game finding all the Night1 vigi-hit talk bad.
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On June 02 2011 07:07 chaos13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 06:53 Mataza wrote:
And killing chaos13 should be a nobrainer. Palmar declared himself some sort of fistpound-driven alignment checker. If you flip town, Palmar is marked for death.
Or does anyone want to do it Ace style, first kill the cop and then his claim? Even if he is a DT-type role, I haven't fistpounded him. He has posted nothing to incriminate me so far. bumatlarge, do you have to kill someone every night? If so, I would suggest either Mataza or GMarshal, but I'll be re-reading a lot of posts during this night phase, and that may change yet.
Im not a compulsive Vig, I can kill someone, I don't have to. Treat it like a double lynch, dont feel forced to shoot anyone.
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On June 02 2011 07:13 bumatlarge wrote:Im not a compulsive Vig, I can kill someone, I don't have to. Treat it like a double lynch, dont feel forced to shoot anyone.
In that case I agree with EM. We should consider not killing anyone tonight unless we get a really strong scum read, as most of the Day's analysis was rather weak.
Mataza might fit that category.
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