• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:56
CET 17:56
KST 01:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1816Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Ghostwriting Services for Authors and Businesses The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1930 users

[G] How to Improve - Page 6

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 19 2011 21:50 GMT
#101
The awesome replay pack initially linked in the PDF seems to be non-existant now. Any chance someone could repost it?
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 08:51:03
October 20 2011 08:49 GMT
#102
[url blocked]
Pretty much all from this thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=106115
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 20 2011 16:15 GMT
#103
ils, you are a godsend! Thanks so much!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
kRis[Mb]
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary3 Posts
November 03 2011 13:05 GMT
#104
Is there any way to upload it in other format? Idc if .doc or .txt but I prefer not to install adobe reader T.T ...
Thanks
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
November 03 2011 23:53 GMT
#105
the guide is amazing,the only bad in my case is all about toss and terr,hard to find amazing things about zerg
mtwow789
Profile Joined April 2011
67 Posts
November 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#106
Wow...
My PvT improved significantly after reading this guide.
This thread suggests using 12 nexus, and I think I am winning 10 in a row with diff opponents each time.
12 Nexus makes 2 fac Terran game a easy win.

I used to use bulldog toss, and always lost to better T players.nse.
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
November 29 2011 18:53 GMT
#107
On November 30 2011 03:16 mtwow789 wrote:
Wow...
My PvT improved significantly after reading this guide.
This thread suggests using 12 nexus, and I think I am winning 10 in a row with diff opponents each time.
12 Nexus makes 2 fac Terran game a easy win.

I used to use bulldog toss, and always lost to better T players.nse.


The 12 Nexus is a very powerful tool to have, but make sure you can use all the openings on all the maps they are viable on. For instance, on a map like Bloody Ridge or Alternative a 12 Nexus might not be as strong as on La Mancha, Jade, or Electric Circuit.

Being able to properly execute the 3 Dragoon expand and other 1 Gateway openings will really solidify your understanding of the game and in game mechanics, if you learn them correctly. However, if you always resort in the 12 Nexus opening (Which most players on iCCup have no idea how to play against) I question how much you will actually improve, especially in a BOX series or tournament play.
aznboi918
Profile Joined February 2010
United States70 Posts
November 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#108
Being a former BW player who switched to SC2 just a while ago this is an amazing piece of writing... Good work!!! it applies to SC2 as well and it has enlightened me so much haha thanksss. will take your advice to heart
"I want to share my bloody tears with those who cry because the road they chose was too difficult, or those that gave up their dreams to take the road that was a little easier." (Lim Yo Hwan)
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 30 2011 17:16 GMT
#109
One of the best guides I have ever read, ever :D
Life's good :D
CheyRa
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 13:00:31
December 15 2011 12:58 GMT
#110
keyStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada316 Posts
December 17 2011 20:39 GMT
#111
hello, i felt nostalgic and downloaded broodwar, is there a player out there who wants to help me setting up for Iccup and mentoring me ?

p.m me!!

theleo_ua
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine150 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 18:06:38
December 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#112
On July 13 2010 03:25 Ver wrote:On the other hand, if your goal is trying to improve as much as possible, why would you waste your time doing allins at the start? What is that going to teach you but a small subset of the game? At best, you'll become Horang2, a completely unpredictable entity that loses more than he wins because his core skillset doesn't exist. If you want to only steal the odd game from higher leveled players, then someone like Horang2 is a great guide to follow. If you don't want to improve and just want to do whatever crazy strategy you think of, well just go do that. So before you start off , fi gure out what you want to aim for, then adjust the means to that goal.


http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6339/203horang2eng.jpg

[image loading]
My BW events/showmatches: https://tinyurl.com/theleo-fund / This will be awesome if they manage to only improve the graphics but keep the gameplay EXACTLY THE SAME. One thing that makes BW great to watch is actually the buggy pathfinding (c) Dante08
krzych113
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United Kingdom547 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 03:38:18
February 18 2013 03:37 GMT
#113
sick, could anyone upload the mega pro reppack from the pdf ? i'm still looking, but it really seems that it netdisappeared
CenturionSC2
Profile Joined November 2012
United States51 Posts
February 19 2013 07:37 GMT
#114
Seriously awesome read, a bit old but the general concepts are still applicable both to sc2 and I imagine bw =]
Gogo INnoVatioN and Flash Fightiiiiiing \m/ "(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating." EnumaAvalon
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
March 25 2013 22:38 GMT
#115
I really appreciate this guide(?). It has really made me understand a lot.
ok
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1479 Posts
March 26 2013 15:20 GMT
#116
Easy to agree since most of what i read is 100% right.
Ive coached a good amount of players in my days and my first step when players were noobs was telling them to watch pro reps and explain to me why they do what they do.
At the moment when they started to get the hang of it, they were ready to learn by themselves.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
Prev 1 4 5 6 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Platinum Heroes Events
12:00
PSC2L Finals - Playoffs
Nicoract vs Creator
RotterdaM627
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 627
SKillous 151
MindelVK 32
DivinesiaTV 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43227
Shuttle 2022
GuemChi 1564
EffOrt 1267
Stork 811
Horang2 513
Snow 434
Jaedong 420
Soma 406
ggaemo 396
[ Show more ]
Sharp 330
hero 248
Barracks 92
sorry 79
Aegong 45
Rock 28
JYJ 22
yabsab 22
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
GoRush 10
Shine 7
Dota 2
qojqva3901
syndereN1042
febbydoto13
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0549
Counter-Strike
chrisJcsgo34
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor198
Other Games
Grubby5903
Gorgc3191
FrodaN2738
B2W.Neo1804
hiko616
DeMusliM608
Hui .283
NarutO 3
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 52
• naamasc244
• mYiSmile135
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 16
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV839
Upcoming Events
OSC
20h 4m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
OSC
1d 19h
IPSL
1d 21h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.