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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On his posting, he seems genuinely interested in finding suspicious activity. For instance, yesterday when people were discussing who to lynch, rather than take the easy route of just pushing Sinensis (the other person Wiggles had said he'd lynch into) he pushed supersoft...someone who no one was really looking at and who he found suspicious. At this point, without a case pointing out what's scummy and why from someone who honestly is convinced he's scum, I can't really get behind an SnB lynch. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
There have been rumors, starting in LIV. That I have, mystical powers. They rarely unleash. This, is a special case. (LOL YEAH I JUST MADE A LIST WHEN I SAID MAKING LISTS ARE SCUMMY DEAL WITH IT) You would except him to pick 1-2 vets 2-3 normals and 2-3 noobs right 1.(The smart, cunning godfather) Mr.Wiggles(1 vet down) He posts long, too long to read. He knows better than to lynch someone with no information. I also heard he is pretty good at mafia. If you look at his posts, only a page and there is a lot of indecisiveness in his posts. 2.(The undeserving vet)Mattchew(MAKE IT 1.5) His trap, was actually a trap to get a townie to question him and to get an easy peasy day2 town lynch. He was also lurking and he is a vet common bro you are better. 3.(The bigshot normal)StrongandBig(Pewpew 1)Im running for mayor, jk, no seriously. Et, no gf Mr.Wiggles.Buss my buddy gambit. 4.(Deh studious lurker)Gambitxc32(1(forduhnubs)) I can imagine the qt now(YO GAMBIT MY MAN U GONNA LURK CUZ ALL DEEZ NUBZ ARE LURKING LOL, THO WHEN THEY FIGURE THAT ME, WIGGZ, IS GF U GOTTA VOTE ET SO WE DON'T LOOK CONNECTED)## Studious VOTE: agree. Oh and yeah he is a lurker and was scared of wbg getting on his case and went for him. He obviously is paying attention to game responding to jaj(?) post asking him about stuff or w/e lol. 5.(idk actually, lets say normal)Zealos(yeah were about quick to lynch someone who is town(LOL THEY DONT KNWO THAT I KNOW WHO IS TOWN) aww yeah towncred(like they were actually gonna lynch toad lol such easy cred town fools) Better lurk it up you know, be scummy and put no effort LOL wtf zealos. 6.papapanda or... Manason. When Kenpachi(♥) mentioned him I was like, holy shit these town nubs let another scum hide, brbbbb gotta check dem filter and this took a long time to post and I saw that you put starsenses. Now, I think you might say that or w\e because u think I'll mislead them, but no i am a wizard. Basically, he was doing a bunch of a lil commenting on people not on my starsense list saying bs, less than a page of filter, however he commented on my starsenses so I love him and probly not mafia. Manason- MMK CHECKED HIS FILTER 3RD PAGE-DONT LYNCH GRUSH POLICY LYNCHES ARE BAD. Okay, someone in your QT played LIV and knew how I screwed up town and told everyone to not lynch me so I'd screw up the game. All the people who wanted me dead early game was town(Sinesis and Bh) Noob mistake of saying(ooh protect my gf Mr. Wiggles) more 1 liners blah blah blah too long, OMG YOU GUYS ARE ON MY BUDDY LETS BRING UP KITAMAN27. No, he made the same mistake as me in LIV, randomly voted someone. My starsense powers sais he is town. Okay so I did all this in TL (LOL I KNOW) and the thread has probably progressed alot as this took like 20-30 mins to write. Please note I am unsure about the 6th mafia. Oh, and a lot of the bad grammar was on purpose. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 30 2012 10:27 austinmcc wrote: The nonexistent kind? I'm not defending him. I bring up the vote because: You brought up the no-vote in your initial 2 posts when you mentioned him. To the extent that the no-vote factored into your read, the read was off, but you may have been more focused on the crappy posting, in which case the no-vote is entirely irrelevant. So first of all, you're insinuating my read was off with no basis for that. We don't know what Gambit is. Do you know his alignment? Why would you suggest my read is off in this case with such off-hand confidence? Secondly, my mention of Gambit's vote had nothing to do with whether or not it was scummy. I asked because I didn't see his vote in this thread. A nonvoter results in a modkill or a warning. I had forgotten that there is a separate voting thread. When I looked there I discovered he voted ET. That's called a ninja vote, where you vote in the voting thread but you don't announce your vote or your reasoning in the main thread. That's far scummier than actually not voting, as RoL from Storm proved. Someone who ninjas a vote is trying to get by without being noticed. Townies don't do that. Scum do. Why? Because a townie who is merely inactive for whatever reason won't actually vote, thus resulting in a replacement or modkill. That's what happened with the guy I replaced. Scum will vote, but if they've been inactive all day they'll do one of two things: they'll make up (or tell the truth) an excuse for why they were gone and then place their vote somewhere. In the most blatant cases, scum will simply vote without justifying themselves. Did it work? Obviously he wasn't noticed. Again, I'm not trying to defend Gambit here, I'm trying to see your reasoning. Why him over
Why him over Zealos? Why not? Look at his posts. You think a townie would post that? Gambit is not likely to be modkilled if he's merely going to ninja vote again. Besides, I'd rather kill scum with the tools given to me rather than rely on the mods to do it for me. That's being both lazy and disingenuous. Anyway, I actually truly haven't read the case on Zealos nor many (if any) of his posts at all. I read in the thread up to Gambit's second post IIRC. I need to continue with the rest of the thread from there. Based on what I saw, though, I seriously doubt there will be an easier target than this guy. I am also quite interested in why he's not gaining traction as a lynch; only Blazinghand seems to be willing to kill him, and everyone else is stumbling over themselves to find an excuse not to. You know the last time that happened? Zealos in MTG. Zealos flipped scum. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On May 30 2012 11:48 grush57 wrote: I'm being mean Kenpachi, you're a pretty cool dude, I'm sorry :"(. There have been rumors, starting in LIV. That I have, mystical powers. They rarely unleash. This, is a special case. (LOL YEAH I JUST MADE A LIST WHEN I SAID MAKING LISTS ARE SCUMMY DEAL WITH IT) You would except him to pick 1-2 vets 2-3 normals and 2-3 noobs right 1.(The smart, cunning godfather) Mr.Wiggles(1 vet down) He posts long, too long to read. He knows better than to lynch someone with no information. I also heard he is pretty good at mafia. If you look at his posts, only a page and there is a lot of indecisiveness in his posts. 2.(The undeserving vet)Mattchew(MAKE IT 1.5) His trap, was actually a trap to get a townie to question him and to get an easy peasy day2 town lynch. He was also lurking and he is a vet common bro you are better. 3.(The bigshot normal)StrongandBig(Pewpew 1)Im running for mayor, jk, no seriously. Et, no gf Mr.Wiggles.Buss my buddy gambit. 4.(Deh studious lurker)Gambitxc32(1(forduhnubs)) I can imagine the qt now(YO GAMBIT MY MAN U GONNA LURK CUZ ALL DEEZ NUBZ ARE LURKING LOL, THO WHEN THEY FIGURE THAT ME, WIGGZ, IS GF U GOTTA VOTE ET SO WE DON'T LOOK CONNECTED)## Studious VOTE: agree. Oh and yeah he is a lurker and was scared of wbg getting on his case and went for him. He obviously is paying attention to game responding to jaj(?) post asking him about stuff or w/e lol. 5.(idk actually, lets say normal)Zealos(yeah were about quick to lynch someone who is town(LOL THEY DONT KNWO THAT I KNOW WHO IS TOWN) aww yeah towncred(like they were actually gonna lynch toad lol such easy cred town fools) Better lurk it up you know, be scummy and put no effort LOL wtf zealos. 6.papapanda or... Manason. When Kenpachi(♥) mentioned him I was like, holy shit these town nubs let another scum hide, brbbbb gotta check dem filter and this took a long time to post and I saw that you put starsenses. Now, I think you might say that or w\e because u think I'll mislead them, but no i am a wizard. Basically, he was doing a bunch of a lil commenting on people not on my starsense list saying bs, less than a page of filter, however he commented on my starsenses so I love him and probly not mafia. Manason- MMK CHECKED HIS FILTER 3RD PAGE-DONT LYNCH GRUSH POLICY LYNCHES ARE BAD. Okay, someone in your QT played LIV and knew how I screwed up town and told everyone to not lynch me so I'd screw up the game. All the people who wanted me dead early game was town(Sinesis and Bh) Noob mistake of saying(ooh protect my gf Mr. Wiggles) more 1 liners blah blah blah too long, OMG YOU GUYS ARE ON MY BUDDY LETS BRING UP KITAMAN27. No, he made the same mistake as me in LIV, randomly voted someone. My starsense powers sais he is town. Okay so I did all this in TL (LOL I KNOW) and the thread has probably progressed alot as this took like 20-30 mins to write. Please note I am unsure about the 6th mafia. Oh, and a lot of the bad grammar was on purpose. I agree with others opinions on Wiggles in that his lynch wasn't the best choice but calling someone scum for having posts that are too long is ridiculous. Having a filter a page long isn't too bad as long as the posts have content as Wiggles seem to. Plus wiggles still has more posts than most people anyways. He's not really indecisive either, he had two ideas on who to lynch for day one and so far day 2 has barely started. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:00 MajuGarzett wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 30 2012 11:48 grush57 wrote: I'm being mean Kenpachi, you're a pretty cool dude, I'm sorry :"(. There have been rumors, starting in LIV. That I have, mystical powers. They rarely unleash. This, is a special case. (LOL YEAH I JUST MADE A LIST WHEN I SAID MAKING LISTS ARE SCUMMY DEAL WITH IT) You would except him to pick 1-2 vets 2-3 normals and 2-3 noobs right 1.(The smart, cunning godfather) Mr.Wiggles(1 vet down) He posts long, too long to read. He knows better than to lynch someone with no information. I also heard he is pretty good at mafia. If you look at his posts, only a page and there is a lot of indecisiveness in his posts. 2.(The undeserving vet)Mattchew(MAKE IT 1.5) His trap, was actually a trap to get a townie to question him and to get an easy peasy day2 town lynch. He was also lurking and he is a vet common bro you are better. 3.(The bigshot normal)StrongandBig(Pewpew 1)Im running for mayor, jk, no seriously. Et, no gf Mr.Wiggles.Buss my buddy gambit. 4.(Deh studious lurker)Gambitxc32(1(forduhnubs)) I can imagine the qt now(YO GAMBIT MY MAN U GONNA LURK CUZ ALL DEEZ NUBZ ARE LURKING LOL, THO WHEN THEY FIGURE THAT ME, WIGGZ, IS GF U GOTTA VOTE ET SO WE DON'T LOOK CONNECTED)## Studious VOTE: agree. Oh and yeah he is a lurker and was scared of wbg getting on his case and went for him. He obviously is paying attention to game responding to jaj(?) post asking him about stuff or w/e lol. 5.(idk actually, lets say normal)Zealos(yeah were about quick to lynch someone who is town(LOL THEY DONT KNWO THAT I KNOW WHO IS TOWN) aww yeah towncred(like they were actually gonna lynch toad lol such easy cred town fools) Better lurk it up you know, be scummy and put no effort LOL wtf zealos. 6.papapanda or... Manason. When Kenpachi(♥) mentioned him I was like, holy shit these town nubs let another scum hide, brbbbb gotta check dem filter and this took a long time to post and I saw that you put starsenses. Now, I think you might say that or w\e because u think I'll mislead them, but no i am a wizard. Basically, he was doing a bunch of a lil commenting on people not on my starsense list saying bs, less than a page of filter, however he commented on my starsenses so I love him and probly not mafia. Manason- MMK CHECKED HIS FILTER 3RD PAGE-DONT LYNCH GRUSH POLICY LYNCHES ARE BAD. Okay, someone in your QT played LIV and knew how I screwed up town and told everyone to not lynch me so I'd screw up the game. All the people who wanted me dead early game was town(Sinesis and Bh) Noob mistake of saying(ooh protect my gf Mr. Wiggles) more 1 liners blah blah blah too long, OMG YOU GUYS ARE ON MY BUDDY LETS BRING UP KITAMAN27. No, he made the same mistake as me in LIV, randomly voted someone. My starsense powers sais he is town. Okay so I did all this in TL (LOL I KNOW) and the thread has probably progressed alot as this took like 20-30 mins to write. Please note I am unsure about the 6th mafia. Oh, and a lot of the bad grammar was on purpose. I agree with others opinions on Wiggles in that his lynch wasn't the best choice but calling someone scum for having posts that are too long is ridiculous. Having a filter a page long isn't too bad as long as the posts have content as Wiggles seem to. Plus wiggles still has more posts than most people anyways. He's not really indecisive either, he had two ideas on who to lynch for day one and so far day 2 has barely started. Sigh majuju, you were lurking too and now that I called out your buddy you finally unlurked. LOL SERIOUSLY TOWN NUBS STAR TPOSTING asdaSDFASDFA. Okay, I will bring up the posts. Actually just read them too much work lol. | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:04 VisceraEyes wrote: Bugs can you maybe read Zealos and answer the question posed to you properly before you expect everyone to sheep someone who admittedly hasn't even read all of the thread? It's one thing to have an opposing viewpoint, it's entirely a different story when you admit to just dismissing the other viewpoint. whether or not I've read the rest of the thread is pretty irrelevant when the guy I'm attacking isn't even interested in playing the game. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:11 wherebugsgo wrote: whether or not I've read the rest of the thread is pretty irrelevant when the guy I'm attacking isn't even interested in playing the game. [spoiler]IwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugs[spoiler] Guy, seriously...you're acting like YOU'RE not even interested in playing the game the way you're playing. Bugs: "Look at this guy with 2 posts kill it!" Others: "But Bugs what about Zealos" Bugs: "I haven't read Zealos, sheep me!" Others: "Bugs what about these other candidates?" Bugs: "My lynch of choice isn't picking up traction - only one explanation...scum interference! Sheep me if you're not scum!" Like...play with us guy! | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
Oh and VE, what happened to your suspicion of Kita? I am having difficulty reconciling his Day 1 "lyncher" play with him being town and both you and MZ had him labelled as suspicious but he hasn't been mentioned since. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 30 2012 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote: There you have it. Nice work Matt. Forumite had me fooled, though I guess since his target was scum that was going to be EZPZ to do. I was afraid of the assassin/lyncher needing to target scum, that was going to make finding them exceedingly hard since they could just scumhunt like normal. Thank God scum took care of it for us. ^^ Now, who's the lynch today? I'm liking a lynch inside of (Zealos, supersoft, Kitaman) presently. What does everyone else think? He's on the radar, but I don't know if there's enough support for his lynch yet. As you say, no one is really mentioning him and aside from a few people thinking his play is "odd" it doesn't seem like many people find him suspicious. I'm trying to get a GOOD lynch to happen, not MY lynch. MY lynch would be Kita. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:33 GreYMisT wrote: Play nice, or I will ruin you. /cower | ||
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grush57
Korea (South)2582 Posts
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Manason
45 Posts
On May 30 2012 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote: He's on the radar, but I don't know if there's enough support for his lynch yet. As you say, no one is really mentioning him and aside from a few people thinking his play is "odd" it doesn't seem like many people find him suspicious. I'm trying to get a GOOD lynch to happen, not MY lynch. MY lynch would be Kita. I'm behind you on Kita. Kita or Zealous, those are the two I'd be happy to see lynched. I think we need to start putting some pressure on these two and see what they have to say in their defence. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 28 2012 15:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean, I spelled it out myself. Okay, so I like Kita/Sinensis for scum so far...which is actually kinda disturbing, what do you think about 2 scum pretty much just claiming in thread like that? The confidence coming from this post is not townlike. At this point, the only policies I have pushed is electing a candidate who hasn't announced their intentions for running for mayor and to elect Toad as pardoner. Sinensis has only pushed a policy lynch, which may have been a poor idea, but wasn't inherantly scummy. In response, makes a blanket statement about us claiming scum. Throughout the thread, VE has been asking players their opinion of other players, but has yet to produce a valid case against a player. He announces that I would be his prefered lynch, yet refuses to push it due to lack of support. If he was willing to push me yesterday, why back off today? You don't ignore your primary scum suspect because everyone else thinks he is town, you convince them with a compelling case. I was attacked primarily for my support of Toad, yet now that Toad has been confirmed as a mason, his opinion of me has not changed? Hopefully more to come in a bit. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
good job medics/jailors. On May 30 2012 12:19 VisceraEyes wrote: [spoiler]IwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugsIwillnottunnelbugs[spoiler] Guy, seriously...you're acting like YOU'RE not even interested in playing the game the way you're playing. Bugs: "Look at this guy with 2 posts kill it!" Others: "But Bugs what about Zealos" Bugs: "I haven't read Zealos, sheep me!" Others: "Bugs what about these other candidates?" Bugs: "My lynch of choice isn't picking up traction - only one explanation...scum interference! Sheep me if you're not scum!" Like...play with us guy! first of all: this argument actually worked in MTG when Zealos was scum. His lynch picked up no traction and I pointed that out. He was scum. In this case again Zealos is not picking up lynch traction. Neither is Gambit. I think they're both scum. I also think Mattchew is scum. Why? First of all, I ask that if you are a vig and you shot any of me/Meapak/Forumite/Mattchew, please claim now. If you claim now you will save us headaches later because there are 3 shot claims and 1 dead person from last night. That means either a vig shot one of us or one of the shot claimers is a liar. Right now I am inclined to believe that Mattchew is lying and that he is scum. Why? Because scum know who they've targetted. Thus, one of them will come forth and claim a shot as an attempt to become "confirmed" town. Usually it's one of the more experienced members of the scumteam. Mattchew claiming a shot is incredibly scummy because of the way he does it. Firstly, his filter is atrocious. He is very unlikely to be a mafia shot based on what he did yesterday. He lurked and wasn't a replacement, which means if anything he was likely to be a vig shot. Secondly, the "jump"/"trap" on SnB is really bad. SnB's attitude is nothing like it was when I saw him play scum. Secondly, SnB brought up valid points that I think any townie should be considering when you have such an abnormal night where almost no one dies. Now, it's possible Meapak is lying as well but I don't find that likely given how Meapak has behaved all game. I think it's safe for now to assume he's town. So, today, with the wealth of information we have, I think we should keep our lynch targets consolidated between Zealos, Mattchew, and Gambit, all of whom I am supremely confident will flip red. | ||
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Japan10647 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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