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The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:07 GMT
#1141
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:08 GMT
#1142
Yes - though the jerk was intended lightheartedly...like you're Steve Martin and I'm saying "Don't be a jerk."
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Restraining Order
Profile Joined February 2013
Qatar276 Posts
February 26 2013 23:09 GMT
#1143
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.
Don't let me stop you.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 23:11 GMT
#1144
On February 27 2013 08:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes - though the jerk was intended lightheartedly...like you're Steve Martin and I'm saying "Don't be a jerk."

Righto, thanks for clarifying haha

What do you make of OO contributions over the past 6 hours?
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:12 GMT
#1145
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:13 GMT
#1146
Lacking. Suspicious. Considering the sweet nothings he was whispering in my ear during Nomination I expected more.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 26 2013 23:13 GMT
#1147
On February 27 2013 06:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 06:43 layabout wrote:
Do you want to kill vivax?


Dude start scumhunting wtf are you doing so useless.

Why are you tilting so hard? Move on and try to consolidate your analysis better. I'm not going to lynch you if I'm elected so do something better with your time.

Also regarding jj - in what way is defending someone supposed to pressure them? If I was scum getting defended by town why would I respond to the defense instead of the others attacking me? What nonsense, vig should consider wasting him tonight.
RIP Aaliyah
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:17 GMT
#1148
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:20 GMT
#1149
Oh shit we have 24 hours still LMAO

I was thinking today was lynch. God I'm bad with timeframes.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:20 GMT
#1150
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
The Macho Man
Profile Joined February 2013
171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:23 GMT
#1151
On February 27 2013 08:20 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.

i dont even.... wat just so much wat

i will be back in a bit
Expect the unexpected in the kingdom of madness
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 26 2013 23:27 GMT
#1152
On February 27 2013 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Lacking. Suspicious. Considering the sweet nothings he was whispering in my ear during Nomination I expected more.

What is of more concern to you though?

Someone like OO spewing fluff.

Or

someone like Chaos Bear/Chezinu/<insert other 0 / very-low post count player>
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
February 26 2013 23:30 GMT
#1153
Noncontributors are always a concern, but frankly there's nothing I can do about them. They're chaff. I could lynch into them but it's a crapshoot. Better to let blues try and go to work on them.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
February 26 2013 23:55 GMT
#1154
On February 27 2013 08:23 The Macho Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 08:20 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:17 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:12 layabout wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:09 Restraining Order wrote:
On February 27 2013 08:07 The Macho Man wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:59 grush57 wrote:
On February 27 2013 07:42 Vivax wrote:
Anyone else, grush?

I don't like Milkman.

I agree with this

That milkman dude talks a lot of town atmosphere not much scum hunting.

I agree with this agreement.

we aren't even halfway through day1 and much of the time there hasn't been much say since it was so early or people have very short filters that don't reveal a lot

why are you defending him?

well i haven't demonstrated any scumhunting because i haven't felt able, there was a point a few hours in where people were giving "scumreads" as though it was meanful or helpful when it wasn't. I don't think him "not scumhunting" at this stage is particularly revealing. haven't even filtered him.

i dont even.... wat just so much wat

i will be back in a bit

there are 2 pints here: 1)None of the actives are scummy so your left with a crapshoot into the lurkers. There isn't really much to go on them since they haven't been posting.
2)milkman has only really posted in the early part of the day iirc and at that point there was no real scumhunting to do since you would have to go off of very very little content
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2013 00:00 GMT
#1155
On February 27 2013 08:07 MilkSuckler wrote:
Geript
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 12:25 MilkSuckler wrote:
On February 26 2013 12:21 geript wrote:
Was referring to the "that post is likely generated by town" comment. My point is that I still don't like how his core fluctuates and it seems more like he's rewriting scripted posts and trying to blend under the newbie umbrella.

hhhmmm, I must say the "read" - if you can call it that - on Wade Fell was weak at best and scummily deprived of stance at worst.

And serves as stark contrast to the pardoner request post.

I noticed in NMM37 some players were writing posts for the lurkers to contribute with; so could be a valid tactic going forward here.

@Geript
Can you please identify which components of his post read forced and scripted to you.

Do you still feel that way now WoS has increased his post count? + the question in the quotes pls

I still feel the post was artificial. But otherwise I'm less strong on him after reviewing the rest of his filter, more null minus instead of scum.

That said, I think that WF's post here is very interesting.
On February 27 2013 06:02 Wade Fell wrote:
If that's still your opinion at the deadline, you can count on my vote. Given that we're both going to lynch the same guy and one of us wants to be mayor and the other doesn't, I'm going to see if I can't win this election in your stead, though.

It does in many regards feel like Dr. is soft running in the possible attempt to backdoor the pardoner role instead.
MilkSuckler
Profile Joined February 2013
Swaziland597 Posts
February 27 2013 00:10 GMT
#1156
On February 27 2013 09:00 geript wrote:
That said, I think that WF's post here is very interesting.
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 06:02 Wade Fell wrote:
If that's still your opinion at the deadline, you can count on my vote. Given that we're both going to lynch the same guy and one of us wants to be mayor and the other doesn't, I'm going to see if I can't win this election in your stead, though.

It does in many regards feel like Dr. is soft running in the possible attempt to backdoor the pardoner role instead.

Do you have reason to be concerned if Dr.H secured the pardoner role?

Thanks fro responding to the other stuff; noted your reads have evolved overnight.. can you please detail who your best scum read is other than prome.
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 27 2013 00:14 GMT
#1157
JJ you have some explaining to do. I will lay this out clearly for you. Initially (link) you defend Prom by saying he's town, and say you plan on being more specific later. You also say TMM is scummy, and say you'll explain why later. This is an unhelpful way to post because you are at this point, Prom's sole defender, and you've got a scumread who's not Prom, and you're _not_ explaining what's going on. When you return 9 hours later, you say (link) that Prom is likely scum. You walk back your defense of it, and say that your concern is that people weren't opposing his lynch. People still aren't oppositing his lynch, but you make this claim about Prom:

On February 27 2013 03:41 JungleJorge wrote:
as town he would never come to the conclusion that I'm scum in that spot. What would be my interest as scum in defending a player everybody else thinks is scum? For town cred? As you can all tell that very often has the opposite effect and town cred is overrated anyway. People had not even mentioned my name prior to this so I had no reason to risk my neck over this. If you know you are townie your first reaction in this situation certainly is to think the people that are defending you are town! Now as scum what would you do? First you have inherent guilt, you think you look bad, so it's plausible that the claim that the guy defending you must have extra information should fly. Secondly you want to divert attention from your lynch, so it's a terrific opportunity to throw suspicion on someone that is on the other side of the issue. People that want to lynch prome certainly won't like the defense one bit, and are more easily willing to jump on the person defending it.

As you can see Promethelax post makes very little sense if taken form a townie perspective, but makes a lot of sense given a scum mentality.


Most of what you say in this paragraph is false. If I'm a townie and I see a guy defending me for literally no reason, and the guy refuses to explain himself, I immediately think "this is scum trying to set it up so he looks good after I flip" and I think this is pretty much true of everyone. Now, that may not be my final conclusion, but you must always consider the possibility of scum defending townies. A lot of this paragraph is you defending your own actions, saying you "had no reason to risk" your neck over it. If someone reads this paragraph quickly and not attentively, it LOOKS like you're trying to read into his mindset and draw conclusions, but your logic is profoundly flawed. You did not put yourself in the shoes of a townie being mislynched, you made up a narrative that fit the conclusion you wanted, or you simply don't understand how mafia works.

What really gets my goat though (and it gets the SHIT out of my goat) is that you end your damn post with this:
On February 27 2013 03:41 JungleJorge wrote:
I'll refrain from expanding my thoughts on macho man from now as to not derail this lynch.


No. This is not acceptable. If you have a scumread, you share that shit with the town. What if your evidence convinces people that macho man is scummier? That's not derailing a lynch, that's RAILING a lynch.

This town is DISEASED.

this town is INFESTED with people who don't want to share their thoughts, their logical process by which they arrive at conclusions. they just say "I think X" or "I think Y" and it's SHIT. It's SHIT and we're EATING IT like it's candy.

stop eating shit JJ. stop spitting shit into my mouth. It's digusting. I am not a sewer and you are not a toilet.

stop it.

This post? This post is terrible. (link)

what are you even doing here? your'e backtracking your stuff, blah blah blah

look, under the (profoundly unlikely) prom-is-town theory, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY THOUGHT, prom attacked you BECAUSE you said he was town for no reason that you shared. Prom is clearly scum, but look at what's happening here! You're hurting us. You're lowering the level of the discourse. It's been like a day since you said you have a scumread on macho man, and you're not sharing.

I don't want to lynch you today, not at the moment-- but you're playing against the town.

stop it. stop

stop


stop


stop

stop stop stop stop
Politics is the Mind-Killer
Wade Fell
Profile Joined February 2013
United States501 Posts
February 27 2013 00:15 GMT
#1158
JungleJorge just UGHGHGHGHGH

STOP BEING YOU

BE SOMEONE BETTER
Politics is the Mind-Killer
VayeshMoru
Profile Joined September 2009
201 Posts
February 27 2013 00:19 GMT
#1159
On February 27 2013 09:15 Wade Fell wrote:
JungleJorge just UGHGHGHGHGH

STOP BEING YOU

BE SOMEONE BETTER


it could be worse. He could be vayesh
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2013 00:21 GMT
#1160
Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective.
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