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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#1121
I don't think scum risen - when there are only 2 scum - would make such god awful cases and then just afk etc. Not that I know how he plays, it just doesn't strike me as something someone scummy would do.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#1122
That was me panicing b/c I just had the carpet pulled out under me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1123
Perfect count


Oatsmaster (0) - Blazinghand, Holyflare, marvellosity

Holyflare (0) - Risen, Oatsmaster, Dirkzor, raynpelikoneet

Dirkzor (1) - marvellosity, Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet

Clairty_nl (0) - Risen, sloosh

raynpelikoneet (1) - Blazinghand, Risen, Blazinghand

sloosh (5) - Clairty_nl, Dirkzor, marvellosity, Oatsmaster, Holyflare, marvellosity

Risen (1) - Blazinghand sloosh

Blazinghand (0) - marvellosity, sloosh

marvellosity (1) - Blazinghand, Blazinghand


With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Currently Sloosh is set to be lynched.

If you see a mistake please notify us. You have to vote you may not abstain( you can vote for no lynch by ##vote No lynch). just about 30 mins remain.



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1124
xlcx
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1125
Why is this game so hard, man
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:31 GMT
#1126
Hi rayn.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1127
you are idiots.
table for two on a tv tray
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1128
On October 04 2013 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you are idiots.


You're brilliant.

Sloosh or Risen?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1129
On October 04 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.



But if marv is really scum, we should like 100% lynch him. Your logic only applies if he's scum. Also I'm like 100% getting shot tonight and then without me around you guys won't be together enough to actually lynch marv the silver-tongued.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1130
On October 04 2013 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you are idiots.


man, marv literally pushed me for no reason and he's like the leader of this game. what did you want me to do
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 03 2013 23:33 GMT
#1131
On October 04 2013 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.



But if marv is really scum, we should like 100% lynch him. Your logic only applies if he's scum. Also I'm like 100% getting shot tonight and then without me around you guys won't be together enough to actually lynch marv the silver-tongued.


EBWOP: not scum
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 23:35 GMT
#1132
oh fu BH.
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 03 2013 23:35 GMT
#1133
I really wanted to not claim! I really did!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:35 GMT
#1134
##Unvote
##Vote Risen


Wavering on sloosh, give him another day. I'm not confident in Risen being scum but he's a liability.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 23:36 GMT
#1135
Claritty. Sloo0osh. ggyo.
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 03 2013 23:36 GMT
#1136
On October 04 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Risen


Wavering on sloosh, give him another day. I'm not confident in Risen being scum but he's a liability.


so how willing would you be to lynch marv today
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 03 2013 23:36 GMT
#1137
OK
##vote Sloosgh
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#1138
by the way

On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen


Why would you ever be ok with dying if you were town? How has anyone not mentioned this. BH talks about marv going against the 'wincon' but when sloosh just posts something like that how can we ignore it? If you are town you fight to the very last minute to prevent yourself dying. You KNOW you are town, everyone else should therefore be dumb and wrong. Go out of your way to prove it. Don't just accept your fate.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#1139
On October 04 2013 08:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Risen


Wavering on sloosh, give him another day. I'm not confident in Risen being scum but he's a liability.


so how willing would you be to lynch marv today


Not
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#1140
i literally don't know what to do :D
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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