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Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 13 2012 02:39 GMT
#1121
Well of course that what it should say. Nvm.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 13 2012 02:42 GMT
#1122
Yeah. that.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 13 2012 03:04 GMT
#1123
Btw, something I need to ask. What does NMM stand for? First I thought this was part of the Roman numerals used to put a number on the game. As this made no sense, I concluded it must be an abbreviation.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 13 2012 03:06 GMT
#1124
newb mini mafia
☺
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 13 2012 03:08 GMT
#1125
Wait, this is mini? How big is normal? 25 players?

Thanks
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 13 2012 03:12 GMT
#1126
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=344514

This game's 27
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 13 2012 03:18 GMT
#1127
I doubt I would be able to keep up with that =(

It's a shame to see so many being modkilled, though.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 04:24:00
July 13 2012 04:22 GMT
#1128
On July 11 2012 13:59 JieXian wrote:
Before going I can't help but to say

Evul that was an idiotic move investigating Bass


Good job evul ^^

Bass i supposed you killed me because of my mackin townie read? hahaha wrong choice man

and good play bass. your filter looks scummy now based on meta but thing is I never read it before while I was in game :D

Don't know what'll happen to my reads if I were still in game and went through your filter

and marv that jinglehell one was really funny hahahahaha

And Release, so what kind of hallucinogens have you been using this past week?
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YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 04:29 GMT
#1129
JieXian, who did you investigate?
Never!
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 13 2012 06:17 GMT
#1130
I didn't kill you because of any of your reads JieXian, I killed you because tracker was more dangerous than detective. If detective investigated me I could claim miller and pray (it didn't work out this time but still). If you tracked me, it would be pretty much game over since you could ask who was roleblocked to confirm that I was mafia.

I decided not to gamble on roleblocking one of DT or tracker and killing the other night 2 because I felt that it would be safer to guarantee a kill on the tracker and hope the DT either didn't check me, or best case scenario, checked the miller. I was banking on Evul checking YourHarry or Mackin so that town wouldn't waste time with building cases against them, or checking Hapa to absolutely confirm his town status, which some were questioning. It would've come down to me vs 1 other unconfirmed townie in the end if this had worked.

On July 13 2012 10:42 Hapahauli wrote:
As previously stated, I really didn't like your case against Bass, and thought it took him out of context quite a bit. Upon re-reading his filter, I think there were a lot of stronger points against him that I missed on my initial readthrough:

When he bussed hopeless, he left himself open to change his mind - he said he wanted to see Hopeless's defense before he locked in his vote.
Him never voting or FOSing Mackin was a really strong point that you didn't mention until I brought it up later. He hounds Mackin without ever committing to his case.


I actually always leave myself open to changing my mind regardless of alignment in all the games I've played (well, only 3 I guess), since there is such a lengthy period of time between when i go to sleep and the deadline. An unfortunate situation when playing mafia on the other side of the world. I also never FOS anyone because I figure if I'm posting evidence and saying that I feel someone is suspicious, then that's already a FOS in itself. I don't actually recall seeing FOSs anywhere other than newbie games. I keep it out just so there isn't bolded text all over the place, but it's just my preference.
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 06:55 GMT
#1131
Bass, do you realize that if DT checked me or Hapha or even Lazer, the game would have been effectively over? Townies would win 100% of the time.

It has been mentioned several times, I think, including in my post that clarified tracker was stronger than the detective.

Never!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#1132
On July 13 2012 13:22 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 13:59 JieXian wrote:
Before going I can't help but to say

Evul that was an idiotic move investigating Bass


Good job evul ^^

Bass i supposed you killed me because of my mackin townie read? hahaha wrong choice man

and good play bass. your filter looks scummy now based on meta but thing is I never read it before while I was in game :D

Don't know what'll happen to my reads if I were still in game and went through your filter

and marv that jinglehell one was really funny hahahahaha

And Release, so what kind of hallucinogens have you been using this past week?

textbook dust
☺
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 06:59 GMT
#1133
Hmm. Never mind. That is not true at all. I don't know what I was thinking.

You made the right choice role blocking the medic and NKing gthe tracker.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 07:05 GMT
#1134
Actually maybe the ideal move was still RBing the tracker and NKing the detective.

Probability of scum win if RB medic and NK the tracker:

1/5 of the time, DT will check out the miller. And in this situation, as we established during the game, there is 25% chance of scum win.

1/5 of the time DT will check out the scum. Assuming people are reasonable and lynch miller/scum possibility, there is 0% chance of scum win.

3/5 of the time, DT will check out vanilla townie. There is 3/4*2/3*1/2 probability of scum win. 25%.

So overall, by RBing the medic, scum had 1/5*.25 + 3/5*.25 = 20% chance of winning.

Not bad. Maybe you did the right thing.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 07:08 GMT
#1135
Hmm. Maybe no one cares But a correction.

1/5 of the time, DT will check out the miller. In this situation, there is 3/4 * 2/3 = 50% chance of winning.

So overall, you had 25% chance of winning.
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 13 2012 07:12 GMT
#1136
IF you had RB'ed DT and NK'ed Tracker

50% of the times, you would instantly lose (if you get it wrong).

50% of the time, you would get it right and town will get no info and scum gets a NK. This way you had: 4/5 * 3/4 * 2/3 = 0.4. So you had 20% chance of winning.

So you DID the right thing Good job.

Never!
Mackin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland181 Posts
July 13 2012 10:39 GMT
#1137
Haha, I called it! I said that I had a feeling that I was the miller. So yeah, even if I had been lynched it would have been GG anyway Bass. Kind of put in such a tough spot for mafia to win when Khorrus got MK'ed.

Also, the wrap up post after the lynching was gold. I celebrated with Guinness? Yes.
Serenity
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
July 13 2012 13:21 GMT
#1138
Can anyone explain to me how me reading a townie would guarantee town win?

I don't get it =/
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2012 13:43 GMT
#1139
I don't think I get it either. Example timeline?

7-1 - Evul gets townread on YourHarry from overnight

evul, zen, jingle, yourharry confirmed

lynch lazermonkey.

6-1

kill evul

5-1

lynch mackin

4-1

kill zen

3-1 Remaining: Jingle, YourHarry, Hapahauli, BassinSpace

straight fight between Hapahauli and BassinSpace (in this scenario)

What am I missing?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 13 2012 14:00 GMT
#1140
I think he's saying if I tried to block DT and kill tracker or vice versa and failed, it would've been instant loss? Since Town would've gotten a town read night 2, and another town read night 3. I could only afford to give away 1 more town read. The chosen strategy guaranteed town only getting 1 more town read.

YourHarry I'll be honest... I didn't even bother working out the probabilities :p

What I ended up doing just felt safer.
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