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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:21 GMT
#1101
On October 04 2013 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.


say marv is mafia, then who would be your second most reasonable guess as to who is the second one?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:21 GMT
#1102
On October 04 2013 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Like everyone. Are you mafia Clarity?


He was being vague I wanted him to specify >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:22 GMT
#1103
oh. yeah ok that makes sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:22 GMT
#1104
On October 04 2013 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Like everyone. Are you mafia Clarity?


He was being vague I wanted him to specify >.<


The guy I have my vote on..... or rayn would probably be my second choice, not sure about dirk anymore either, the people that I want to lynch all fell off the radar -.-
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:23 GMT
#1105
see, slOosh isn't here.

Even though he was here. If you see what i mean.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 03 2013 23:24 GMT
#1106
On October 04 2013 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.


say marv is mafia, then who would be your second most reasonable guess as to who is the second one?


hm, that's tough. Not drawing specific associative tells, i'm tempted to go with risen or someone playing a quieter game. I'll have to look into it after marv flips though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:24 GMT
#1107
your lynch on me is gaining massive traction BH
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 23:25 GMT
#1108
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:25 GMT
#1109
blazing speaking like he's going to be alive long enough to see marv die
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:26 GMT
#1110
On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.



It's precisely because I respect you that I want to lynch you. I don't understand how you don't see that.

I'll read the rest of your post now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:26 GMT
#1111
That's actually not half bad.

How many people are around?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 03 2013 23:26 GMT
#1112
Like marv i realize there is a chance here you're town, and given that it's possible, I'm really baffled by your play. Your irrational decision to push me over your actual scumreads makes no sense. I thought the stuff from that game was settled, and the fact that I've been a bit push from time to time is true. I see why you could be mad.

I don't find it at all acceptable that you might play against your wincon. In fact, don't find it remotely believable. No, you're better than that, marv. Youre the kind of guy who people get suspicious of when he's alive D3 because that's how good you can be as a townie. This isn't town marv. Not one bit.

I don't buy that anger. I don't buy that you wouldn't play well. You're a good player, marv. You wouldn't push the doctor for no reason and out him D1.

you're scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#1113
I'm not saying I'm willing to switch, but I MIGHT be willing to switch.

blazing and holy, you guys willing to vote risen?
marv?

Might as well find out if it's possible even if we don't do it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#1114
I'm not saying marv is scum b/c of the switch to BH. That's dumb. I'm saying that marv isn't automatically town b/c of it. I fully think scum marv would be capable of such a feat.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#1115
On October 04 2013 08:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not saying I'm willing to switch, but I MIGHT be willing to switch.

blazing and holy, you guys willing to vote risen?
marv?

Might as well find out if it's possible even if we don't do it.


I'm fine with a risen lynch today. I strongly prefer it to a sloosh lynch.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 23:28 GMT
#1116
I've stopped reading BH's posts tbh.

I could lynch Risen. slOosh's post looks really genuine.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1117
On October 04 2013 08:27 slOosh wrote:
I'm not saying marv is scum b/c of the switch to BH. That's dumb. I'm saying that marv isn't automatically town b/c of it. I fully think scum marv would be capable of such a feat.

On October 04 2013 07:50 slOosh wrote:
BH's logic is sound. Having a no-lynch isn't of too much consequence, and if scum marv did gain enough traction to hit BH, then he would still have me in the back pocket to push a lynch onto.

He says in his filter than he respects my play, but is content with letting me die, despite having very hazy reads on Dirk and Risen. There still isn't any proper case on me, despite "he was maybe right about dirk before anyone else", and "his read on clarity wasn't that good".


Erm...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1118
On October 04 2013 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
I've stopped reading BH's posts tbh.

I could lynch Risen. slOosh's post looks really genuine.


well at least we agree on something! the second thing. The part where we lynch risen instead of sloosh.

That being said, this like backtracks all your stuff. You look bad for this post. Ignoring the confirmed townie? Come on, marv.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1119
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#1120
rayn isn't happening
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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